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[E the Shaggy]

I saw some Extraordinary X-Men Post Secret War spoilers:

Spoiler

The terrigen mists are not only killing current mutants but also sterilizing mutants/stopping mutants from being created. HOW CONVENIENT!

 

[ElBoxyBrown]

I should probably look into reading some manga again since I haven't done much of that. I know there's certainly stuff there I have enjoyed and more that I would enjoy.

Shoujo or Shonen?

 

[Poodlestrike]

I saw some Extraordinary X-Men Post Secret War spoilers:

Spoiler

The terrigen mists are not only killing current mutants but also sterilizing mutants/stopping mutants from being created. HOW CONVENIENT!

Have you heard about Guardians of Infinity?

 

[GAMEPROFF]

I saw some Extraordinary X-Men Post Secret War spoilers:

Spoiler

The terrigen mists are not only killing current mutants but also sterilizing mutants/stopping mutants from being created. HOW CONVENIENT!

So its the usuall All Mutants are fucked and almost extinct story line we get all ten years?

 

[TetraxShards]

I really wish they had made Secret Six as a film instead of Suicide Squad.

Me too, even if they would probably cut Jeanette for Harley.

 

[E the Shaggy]

So its the usuall All Mutants are fucked and almost extinct story line we get all ten years?

But this time it matters because INHUMANS INHUMANS INHUMANS

 

[Rhaknar]

bueno.jpg

 

[GAMEPROFF]

But this time it matters because INHUMANS INHUMANS INHUMANS

How many X-Books do we get? We have even one more Main Line book more than after AvX.

X-Men will be fine. The only one with a problem are the Fantastic Four. And they will return when Fox exchanges them for the X-Men TV rights.

 

[Messi]

How many X-Books do we get? We have even one more Main Line book more than after AvX.

X-Men will be fine. The only one with a problem are the Fantastic Four. And they will return when Fox exchanges them for the X-Men TV rights.

Keep Jordan as the torch pls

 

[Simply Sarah]

What have you read?

I'll admit that the only manga I've read even vaguely recently was a year or so ago when I went through the entirety of Sailor Moon content starting with Sailor V. Quite enjoyable for what it is.

Shoujo or Shonen?

Given my above answer and the fact that two of the western comic series that I can most easily say are all-time favourites are Sunstone and now Strangers in Paradise, well, I'll let you figure which of those two target demographics I most closely fit into if forcing me to fit into one of the two.

 

[GAMEPROFF]

Keep Jordan as the torch pls

Chris Evans should return

 

[mreddie]

Secret Wars delays are getting really tiresome. Dragging AForce and Silver Surfer is ass.

Fred Hembeck variants in December!

 

[ElBoxyBrown]

Chris Evans should return

Cap gets Human Torch powers due to the inhumans.

 

[TetraxShards]

Keep Jordan as the torch pls

Not until he does at least three Creed movies.

 

[Coriolanus]

Fred Hembeck variants in December!

...but why?

 

[Poodlestrike]

Secret Wars delays are getting really tiresome. Dragging AForce and Silver Surfer is ass.

Fred Hembeck variants in December!

These are... uh, all kind of terrible looking?

Am I missing something?

 

[TetraxShards]

...but why?

Lifetime achievement award, I guess.

I want my Chris Giarrusso variant month now, Marvel and DC!

 

[Serpentine]

I want my Chris Giarrusso variant month now, Marvel and DC!

n-no...

 

[Coriolanus]

Lifetime achievement award, I guess.

I want my Chris Giarrusso variant month now, Marvel and DC!

So that's what skottie young art would look like if you removed everything good about it...

 

[TetraxShards]

Hey now, Franklin Richards: Son of a Genius was great stuff, and didn't require fill-ins unlike Scottie's Marvel work.

 

[Messi]

So that's what skottie young art would look like if you removed everything good about it...

.

 

[ElBoxyBrown]

Given my above answer and the fact that two of the western comic series that I can most easily say are all-time favourites are Sunstone and now Strangers in Paradise, well, I'll let you figure which of those two target demographics I most closely fit into if forcing me to fit into one of the two.

I think you'll like Ranma.

Inuyasha is pretty good up until is drags and repeats although I've only watched the anime. I'ma also throw in One Piece cuz One Piece.

 

[ElNarez]

So a senior DC Editor is a serial sexual harasser.

And it's probably Eddie Berganza? And there's probably three other guys in Big Two comics who are just as bad as him and Edmondson?

Comics: I love you but stop being hella fucked.

 

[tim1138]

We live in a world where Omega Men gets cancelled and Robert Venditti is still shitting all over the GL and Flash books. Amazing.

 

[Messi]

What were omega men's sales like?

 

[ElNarez]

We live in a world where Omega Men gets cancelled and Robert Venditti is still shitting all over the GL and Flash books. Amazing.

The comics industry will keep itself fucked if it can't see that kneejerk reactions to Diamond numbers is cutting your nose to spite your face, because those numbers are pretty much based on pre-orders and you can't expect an audience that's new to comics and the purchasing of them to go to that level of commitment.

You can't even expect them to go to comic shops, which is why you make it worse by not having timely TPB releases. Look at how well Squirrel Girl is doing collected and tell me seriously that couldn't be Prez or Omega Men.

 

[whatsinaname]

What were omega men's sales like?

This site usually has up to date numbers.

http://www.comichron.com/monthlycomicssales.html

Looks like 30k/17k/13k for #1 / #2 / #3.

Astro City continues to be put out at 10k though. Must be the price. $3 for Omega Men, $4 for Astro City.

 

[Serpentine]

So a senior DC Editor is a serial sexual harasser.

And it's probably Eddie Berganza? And there's probably three other guys in Big Two comics who are just as bad as him and Edmondson?

Comics: I love you but stop being hella fucked.

I remember hearing something to that effect

We live in a world where Omega Men gets cancelled and Robert Venditti is still shitting all over the GL and Flash books. Amazing.

they did OM dirty. "sure you'll get 12 issues no matter what the sales are"

 

[Simply Sarah]

So a senior DC Editor is a serial sexual harasser.

And it's probably Eddie Berganza? And there's probably three other guys in Big Two comics who are just as bad as him and Edmondson?

Comics: I love you but stop being hella fucked.

And now we're starting to get details in public. I hope specific names are next even though I doubt it would lead to anything besides more covering eyes and plugging ears.

 

[Squire]

So a senior DC Editor is a serial sexual harasser.

And it's probably Eddie Berganza? And there's probably three other guys in Big Two comics who are just as bad as him and Edmondson?

Comics: I love you but stop being hella fucked.

Yikes.

Edit: Gail Simone seemed to be referencing this on Twitter. She was basically saying someone having been nice to her says nothing about their behavior towards others.

 

[Schweinehund]

She's apparently the leader of H.I.V.E. now. Or not? I'm not sure.

Either way I want a DC animated movie that adapts the first arc of this. "Secret Six: Villains United". It'll be grand.

I think it would be cool for them to replace squad on Arrow, though they probably wouldn't be able to use deadshot.

Spoiler

until they want them for the movies too

 

[BKatastrophe]

I suppose I could do this digitally since DC is being so slow in new paperback collection releases.

I literally just bought both TPB collections

Uncanny X-men 600 will now be 6 months late. Secret Wars also gets more delays.

This is ridiculous. What the hell is going on over there?

I really wish they had made Secret Six as a film instead of Suicide Squad.

I feel like Secret Six requires a far more established universe, though. Maybe that's just me.

But this time it matters because INHUMANS INHUMANS INHUMANS

The hate continues, I see.

I think it would be cool for them to replace squad on Arrow, though they probably wouldn't be able to use deadshot.

Spoiler

until they want them for the movies too

They could always use King Shark.

 

[my name is ed]

So a senior DC Editor is a serial sexual harasser.

And it's probably Eddie Berganza? And there's probably three other guys in Big Two comics who are just as bad as him and Edmondson?

Comics: I love you but stop being hella fucked.

Honestly expected a higher number.

De Campi is awesome. I got a good impression of her from a few interviews she's done.

Love that last bit.

 

[frye]

I remember hearing something to that effect

From the good old days of irc

 

[TetraxShards]

The comics industry will keep itself fucked if it can't see that kneejerk reactions to Diamond numbers is cutting your nose to spite your face, because those numbers are pretty much based on pre-orders and you can't expect an audience that's new to comics and the purchasing of them to go to that level of commitment.

You can't even expect them to go to comic shops, which is why you make it worse by not having timely TPB releases. Look at how well Squirrel Girl is doing collected and tell me seriously that couldn't be Prez or Omega Men.

Agree wholeheartedly with this.

they did OM dirty. "sure you'll get 12 issues no matter what the sales are"

So trustworthy.

Got a job interview tomorrow. I really need this, so much. If the universe wants to do me a solid, tomorrow would be a good day.

 

[Messi]

This site usually has up to date numbers.

http://www.comichron.com/monthlycomicssales.html

Looks like 30k/17k/13k for #1 / #2 / #3.

Astro City continues to be put out at 10k though. Must be the price. $3 for Omega Men, $4 for Astro City.

That drop in sales is pretty sharp.

 

[Simply Sarah]

I think you'll like Ranma.

Inuyasha is pretty good up until is drags and repeats although I've only watched the anime. I'ma also throw in One Piece cuz One Piece.

OK, while I admit I recall mostly enjoying what of Ranma I read back over a decade ago and it certainly has broad appeal in its audience (I know nothing of the details of Inuyasha or One Piece manga), I do need to say that the direction of your suggestions is, shall we say, interesting given your question and my response.

I literally just bought both TPB collections

It's really fantastic stuff.

 

[TetraxShards]

That drop in sales is pretty sharp.

The drop from #1 to #2 is normal for most books. Why do you think they keep bringing out #1s?

 

[Freezasaurus]

That drop in sales is pretty sharp.

Most books actually drop around 50% between #1 and #2, so it's not that dramatic. But apparently not high enough for DC's liking, either.

 

[BKatastrophe]

It's really fantastic stuff.

Really is.

I've realized that I love black-ops cape books. Give my some superheroes/villains and put them on a scummy black-ops team.

Take my money. Now I just need to read Ostrander's SS....

 

[WadiumArcadium]

Got a job interview tomorrow. I really need this, so much. If the universe wants to do me a solid, tomorrow would be a good day.

Good luck!

 

[Messi]

Most books actually drop around 50% between #1 and #2, so it's not that dramatic. But apparently not high enough for DC's liking, either.

What about the drop from 2-3

 

[Freezasaurus]

What about the drop from 2-3

Usually another drop, though not as dramatic as the first. Sales don't usually stabilize until 4-5 issues in.

 

[BKatastrophe]

I want to read the X-Force run directly preceding Remender's run.

Is it any good?

 

[Messi]

Usually another drop, though not as dramatic as the first. Sales don't usually stabilize until 4-5 issues in.

So it would stabilise at 7-10k?

 

[WadiumArcadium]

That 50% statistic is pretty surprising to me. I rarely pick up just the 1st issue of something.

 

[Messi]

That 50% statistic is pretty surprising to me. I rarely pick up just the 1st issue of something.

Oh it's quite the opposite for a large majority. So many people will try all the new ANAD books and never pick up another issue

 

[whatsinaname]

What about the drop from 2-3

10-15% drops for the next 2-3 weeks, then stabilise.

Edit: What Freeza said.

That 50% statistic is pretty surprising to me. I rarely pick up just the 1st issue of something.

#1s are usually over ordered by comic shops because they don't know how many will sell. By #2 or #3, they usually know how many to order. Plus many big books have variant covers for #1s.

http://comicbookpage.com/Podcast/

I've been listening to these guys, they usually have pretty good discussions about sales numbers.

 

[Freezasaurus]

So it would stabilise at 7-10k?

Sounds about right. Probably closer to 10.

 

[ElNarez]

Keep in mind that #1s are usually over ordered by comic shops because they don't know how many will sell. By #2 or #3, they usually know how many to order. Plus many big books have variant covers for #1s.

Basically, the Diamond numbers are based on pre-orders and guesstimates, which stop three weeks (or however long the final cut-off date is at right now, it's been a while) before the books actually hit the shelves and get into people's hands. Then, you lop off a bit at the top to get returns into account and you have data that's about as accurate a picture of the comic book industry as looking into animal innards.