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COMICS! |OT| October 2016. Capes, Crime, Bondage, and sometimes Overwatch.
- Thread starter Messi
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Tragicomedy
Member
I'm the wrong guy to give you DC suggestions, since I consider Wonder Woman dull and Harley is the worst character in comics.
But there are some great female heroes in the Marvel lineup. Thor is particularly awesome. Ms. Marvel is great. Spider-Woman rocks. The Black Widow comic is pure fire. All-New Wolverine is money. Wasp drops soon. And I'm not even mentioning the rest of the X-Men lineup that many love.
I think Marvel has the female superhero game on lockdown.
But there are some great female heroes in the Marvel lineup. Thor is particularly awesome. Ms. Marvel is great. Spider-Woman rocks. The Black Widow comic is pure fire. All-New Wolverine is money. Wasp drops soon. And I'm not even mentioning the rest of the X-Men lineup that many love.
I think Marvel has the female superhero game on lockdown.
Also get her Harley and Ivy by Paul Dini.
Oh yeah I forgot I was banned sorry
Yeah I forgot this. It's amazing too and both this and Mad Love have recently released deluxe books. They are pretty much the best Harley stories ever.
Freezasaurus
Member
So Westworld was pretty interesting. Did any of you guys watch it?
I played overwatch and watched the first episode of last man on earth season 3, gotta watch the new ep soon. Westworld looks good though, I'll watch when I get HBO now next game of thrones season
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
I'd be cautious giving her TKJ. That's like introducing a new manga reader to Berserk. The subject matter maybe too much for her.
Freezasaurus
Member
Except Berserk is actually good. :3
Brian Fellows
Pete Carroll Owns Me
Berserk was my first anime.
EDIT: Now that I think about it it was also my first and only manga.
EDIT: Now that I think about it it was also my first and only manga.
Killing Joke has aged very poorly. Would not recommend a book that fridges a main female protagonist to drive forward the male character's story as an entry point to comics.
Blackest Night, wow. That's some comics ass comics and would scare me away quickly. It's not bad to like it, I think it is fun, but holy cow, it is not beginner friendly. A beginner can certainly read it, but there are better things to start with.
For Harley, Mad Love is the best bet. I find her character kinda toxic in new books, so I can't give much recommendations there.
I really enjoy the Rebirth Wonder Woman stuff. It has two different stories running by Greg Rucka. I've also heard a lot of good stuff about Rucka's earlier run.
I know you want newer stuff, but the old Dixon Bird's of Prey is some hot hotness.
Also, and I can't emphasize this enough, you can't actually catch up on all the comics in any line. You can typically pick up with any run and drop after it is done if you are so inclined. This may be different from her usual if she is into Manga at all. It's ok
just read good stories by authors you like, and drop it like a bad habit whenever the stories get crappy.
However, if you don't need capes, get Gotham Academy. It is the best.
Edit: Also, Killing Joke has weird BDSM. Get Sunstone for the good BDSM.
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
If she's wild about the Joker then sure, give her TKJ.
Let me introduce myself. I am Messi. I read every issue of Catwoman new 52 and own all the Nocenti trades and digital issues. I also pull over 100 books a month.
That is not a book for someone looking for female superheroes lol.
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
They both have controversial things that might not sit well with people.
The creative teams are superior to me than DC and really, DC is just banking on Harley ATM, ignoring Raven and I completely forgot about the other books.
Freezasaurus
Member
The current Harley book would be terrible for someone concerned with understanding English and in particular made up words. That book is filled with nonsense words.
Did you read all of Batman books released to get to that point? This is the mentality I see some people with. Must read all of Avengers from the start before they read anything coming out. That sort of thing. I know you have a problem, Messi. I've contracted your Sejic flavored STI. I just haven't posted here in a few months and didn't post much to begin with. Nice OT, BTW.
It's a great book for someone who actively hates ladies getting involved in men's super heroes.
I am not an example. My way is not feasible in the slightest.
Glad to see you are still supporting Sejic. Great stuff out of him as always.
yeah, it was a really good pilot. and disturbing as I expected
Freezasaurus
Member
But don't you want to stick around for She-Borg?
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
You are sinister.Like what?
I dropped that book after the Rebirth issue and from what I've heard it was the correct choice. While DC has reduced the number of books they produce I would expect more from a publisher as big as them.
Freezasaurus
Member
I've not heard of Miss Sinister, but she'd fit right in at the Hellfire Club.
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
Did Logan have sex with her?
We're most likely getting more information on that at NYCC. Dan Didio was asked about the lack, and mentioned that there are 5-6 books coming from.
Freezasaurus
Member
Probably
Freezasaurus
Member
Just finished Luke Cage. God damn, good series. I don't know if I liked it as much as Jessica Jones, but it was definitely better than Daredevil S2.
Who hasn't he fucked?
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
Kitty.
Freezasaurus
Member
He kissed a squirrel and he liked it.
echoshifting
Banned
Victor von Doom that's who
Serpentine
Banned
TKJ is mediocre but non-comic readers seem to like it quite a bit
also Squirrel Girl is like 16 in those books...
sounds like YOU need to step up your game when it comes to black hero books!!!
also Squirrel Girl is like 16 in those books...
sounds like YOU need to step up your game when it comes to black hero books!!!
bendis!!!!!
Valkerionseven
Member
She has heard of Killing Joke before so thats why I was thinking to get it to her. It's of course the most reviewed/recommend American comic here in Japan as well. (Not too big a fan of it myself personally)
And Gotham city sirens is what I was forgetting. Never read mad love, might do that just so I can read it too haha.
But thanks for all the mentions, I'll get to looking at some of the things mentioned (more importantly their availability on this side of the planet.) Another reason for wanting Harley nonsense is my actual students (around ages 13-15) have started seeing Suicide Squad as well, so they are all a buzz about her and Deadshot. Can't name a single avenger but know every member of SS lol.
Not a massive fan of her but shes the trend at the moment. Though I really enjoyed her pairings with Poison Ivy in particular (my favorite Batman villain) and sometimes Catwoman.
Her English level is pretty high (two years abroad America and Australia) and she likes more action manga here in Japan, Dragon Ball Z, Naruto, Jojo's ect. So something that is more action than plot would not end the world for her, but the opposite would not be bad either obviously.
And Gotham city sirens is what I was forgetting. Never read mad love, might do that just so I can read it too haha.
But thanks for all the mentions, I'll get to looking at some of the things mentioned (more importantly their availability on this side of the planet.) Another reason for wanting Harley nonsense is my actual students (around ages 13-15) have started seeing Suicide Squad as well, so they are all a buzz about her and Deadshot. Can't name a single avenger but know every member of SS lol.
Not a massive fan of her but shes the trend at the moment. Though I really enjoyed her pairings with Poison Ivy in particular (my favorite Batman villain) and sometimes Catwoman.
Her English level is pretty high (two years abroad America and Australia) and she likes more action manga here in Japan, Dragon Ball Z, Naruto, Jojo's ect. So something that is more action than plot would not end the world for her, but the opposite would not be bad either obviously.
Donniewahlberg
Banned
Can't wait to give it a spin, probably sit down and watch it this evening with the missus. Ed Brubaker is in the writers room for this show and I think his script is issue 4. I hope it works out for him, he's had a bit of a rough time with tv.
Valkerion, Wonder Woman by Azzarello run? A nice, detached run with no tie-ins or any madness like that, it had a proper finished, consistent throughout. Could be good. It's 6 volumes, I'm not sure that length is a good or a bad thing though, for your needs?
OH, lol, you mentioned you lost interest in that run haha >_<
Batwoman might be a good shout, the Greg Rucka volume, Elegy, since we seem to be looking for DC female stuff. The recent batgirl run by Fletcher & Stewart was three volumes and wrapped up. Gotham Academy is about to start again, but that is reaaaally good, my favourite DC in fact.
BKatastrophe
Member
I really enjoy Extraordinary X-Men, but I'm not sure how much weight that has for you.
Not Bendis' fault.
He also had a cool plot point that ties in with Moon Knight.
They taught Hope how to use chi in order to control the Phoenix. Then her and Wanda did a combo, because apparently Wanda's Chaos Magic is the opposite of the Phoenix. That somehow dispersed the Phoenix across the world, which reawakened mutantkind. And now the Phoenix is reawakening in Jean Grey.
Donniewahlberg
Banned
Neat, I had no idea about that. I'll be checking out Moon KNight for sure when it hits trade, I'll keep an eye out for that.
echoshifting
Banned
I enjoy Extraordinary but I don't think TC would like it, just based on the books he likes
Moon Knight is super rad
That is all
Edit: how cool is it that we have a rad Moon Knight book in 2016
Moon Knight is super rad
That is all
Edit: how cool is it that we have a rad Moon Knight book in 2016
Donniewahlberg
Banned
Very cool! They've been trying for awhile, even been successful to an extent but it never seems to last, or stay consistent. Maybe that's just the nature of the character. They seem to have embraced it on a meta level within the fiction at this point, quite interesting. I really like the approach though of having bespoke volumes headlined by the writer and not the status quo of the universe, with their own take on the character, and usually receiving a proper finite end. Honestly the direction I would see most big two comics take, personally.
Read your review on Daredevil the other day btw. I haven't started the run yet but since it was more about the writing style/quality than any particular spoilers, I read it anyway, and it was a good thing, you gave me a strong impression of the series. I am in totally agreement btw, Daredevil have been a strong, strong contender for Marvel for a long time now (probably where they would like to get Moon Knight to in fact), and it's been about 99% consistent since Bendis kicked his run off way back when (diggle who?). Even Waid, which I would characterise as not being exactly what I do look for in Daredevil in certain ways BUT was so successful at doing something different, especially the art,it won me around 100%.
As far as Soule goes, I've actually not read anything by him as of yet, I don't believe. I have his Swamp Thing run earmarked to check out, that seems to be the thing people enjoyed most from him that aligns with my kind of thing as it were, but I've been very um and ah over checking his Daredevil run out. Even though it appears to return to a bit more of what I want from the book and it would be an exciting time to be reading a DD book (especially in a time of the television show), no one seems to be particularly excited by it, or beaming about it on a monthly basis. It also kind of makes me uneasy seeing that they're giving Bullseye and Kingpin their own books. Good characters for sure, but it may weaken the core book if characters Soule could draw on are *busy*.
Who knows man, maybe I'll jump in myself with volume 1 at some point, I've read everything else, I'll be keeping an eye out for impressions though. At this point I would have hoped things had picked up though.
BKatastrophe
Member
Damion Scott's art is like Denny O'Neil's: really fun and energetic, but sometimes it becomes weird to the point of being incomprehensible.
But yeah, if you're current on Extraordinary X-Men run, then you're aware of
I have a theory about who he is, as it's a major plot point in Lemire's Moon Knight.
I really like his Moon Knight. It's one of my favorite books to discuss on here and break down issue to issue. Aside from, oddly enough, Civil War 2.
But yeah, if you're current on Extraordinary X-Men run, then you're aware of
Moon Knight the Horseman.
echoshifting
Banned
I must say Moon Knight is a marvelous book that benefits tremendously from existing on its own private island. If they did an event tie-in or something they would ruin it. So it's in a very interesting place. I'm not sure how it sells, but does that impact the book's value to Marvel? How long does their confidence in the concept hold out? I think it's a good book to pay attention to even if you aren't reading it or if it isn't your style, since you value that sort of storytelling.
I looked over a list of what Soule has written and the only thing he's written that I've read for more than an issue (besides Daredevil) is Secret Wars: Civil War...which, incidentally, I did like very much. It's funny I always imagine he's more prominent than he is because he's had so much work thrown at him since he popped up. He really hasn't been around too long, in fact.
Anyway. I'm giving him a lot of time to find his path with DD because while I did fall in love with Waid's run as you did...I missed Darkdevil, man. And he brought back Darkdevil!! How could I not give him...like...at least 25 issues to make it a great book. I do think it has come a long way in eleven issues. I have high hopes despite not having much to base them on. Glad you enjoyed the review.
I usually don't get too heavy with the spoilers in reviews unless there's some big deal going on that everyone is talking about....or sometimes if a book is really awful.
Daredevil Annual 1 for example was abysmal garbage and I think I black barred the entire book in a fit of despair
I can't really recall, the memory is mercifully fuzzy