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It's a global nightmare I'm afraid.
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COMICS! |OT| October 2016. Capes, Crime, Bondage, and sometimes Overwatch.
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It's a global nightmare I'm afraid.
Freezasaurus
Member
oh shit, Lunchpod is coming. Run away!
Serious answer, we just like to give Lunchpod shit about Valiant because he loves them so much. Some of their books are fantastic, though. I've found them to be hit-or-miss like any other publisher.
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
Remender has never written a DC comic.
echoshifting
Banned
Huh, I didn't know Remender ever did any work at DC. News to me.
I just checked his wiki and he actually has written a couple for an arc or so, and Atom is one of them
I just checked his wiki and he actually has written a couple for an arc or so, and Atom is one of them
echoshifting
Banned
Well. I don't think schooling boxy and echo QUITE qualifies as scooping comicgaf, mister
Let's see who else fesses up to this gap in their comic knowledge
Let's see who else fesses up to this gap in their comic knowledge
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
Eddie scooped COMICSGAF?
WHAT IS THIS? Also, G Willow Wilson did some DC work. I could be working for GOD TRUMP.
Huh, so did he kill him? And Wilson wrote a Vixen mini-series.
TheDarkKnight774
Member
So did MU just decide to not do an update this week or is my app just acting up
I asked GAF because I don't know if he died in main book or died in JLA.
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
Ok, let me give you the low-down...
Valiant was a pretty successful comic publisher in the 90s that went belly-up around the turn of the century. They were revived in 2012 as an independent publisher using the same stock of characters, but with some not-so-well-known talent. The reboot resulted in some of the best comic stories in the past decade and was incredibly well-received by the core comics community, despite them seeming like knockoffs of more popular characters. Valiant's overall philosophy is telling good stories that happen to center around superheroes. Over time, it started drawing bigger writers and artists, mainly because of the nature of the publisher in letting writers do whatever they want with characters. As Jeff Lemire has said, it feels like a creator-owned publisher.
Anyway, the "derision" doesn't usually come from Valiant itself, but because Sony is the company that will be producing their cinematic universe.
Oh, also, any shit talking that happens in this thread is just to give me shit.
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
Remender and Ellis were lead writers on Dead Space! How did I not know this!?
Interesting. Who're the flagship Valiant characters? Assuming X-O Manowar is one of them? What're the must-reads? I tried reading Rai a few weeks ago and wasn't really feeling it.
X-O Manowar and Bloodshot I'd say are the biggest ones. I tried Rai and I wasn't really into it, but I really like Ivar, Timewalker and Archer and Armstrong (haven't tried X-O Manowar and Bloodshot yet).
Freezasaurus
Member
Ivar Timewalker is a great, self-contained story. Well worth a read. I also enjoyed Doctor Mirage.
Waid-vengers by Mike Del Mundo
Awesome as usual by Del Mundo
TropicalFish
Member
WAIT Vixen's gonna be in the new JLA?
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAS.
Her new design looks great too.
I love her hair. Her hairdo here > her previous designs. Especially the godawful weave in Season 4 of Arrow.
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAS.
Her new design looks great too.
I love her hair. Her hairdo here > her previous designs. Especially the godawful weave in Season 4 of Arrow.
Freezasaurus
Member
God damn, some people really love hair.
TropicalFish
Member
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
Their flagship characters are XO Manowar and Bloodshot, but I'd throw the Harbinger crew in there since they're making the film on them.
Must-reads, as Freeza and VanWinkle mentioned, are:
Ivar, Timewalker
Harbinger
The Valiant -> Bloodshot Reborn
Archer & Armstrong
Great:
Wrath of the Eternal Warrior
XO Manowar
Quantum & Woody
Generation Zero
Unity Vol 1-5
Divinity I&II
Faith
Imperium
Good:
Unity
Ninjak
Rai
Dr. Mirage Vol 1&2
A&A: Adventures of Archer & Armstrong
Meh:
Shadowman Vol 1&2
Eternal Warrior (Greg Pak)
Unity Vol 6&7
Bloodshot
Avoid:
Shadowman Vol 3&4
Dead Drop
There are some crossovers and events sprinkled in there, but I tried to keep it to the standalone stuff. Most of those are built into a respective series.
echoshifting
Banned
I love Del Mundo but I haven't found him to be a great fit for the main Avengers team. I like him better on books like Elektra - a series I stuck with for several issues despite hating the story because it was so gorgeous - and Weirdworld, books where he really gets to play with some wacky stuff. I've found his Avengers issues too restrained. Admittedly it reminds me of his All-New X-Men work which I love...I dunno for whatever reason it doesn't quite click.
Is he picking up anything new in the incoming wave?
Is he picking up anything new in the incoming wave?
Freezasaurus
Member
Back to the Valiant thing, even though it's only two issues in, Generation Zero is really fun.
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
Justin Jordan's Shadowman was good.
echoshifting
Banned
Before I die I am going to read one of those Valiant things. It's a life goal.
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
Yes, it's fantastic.
er, I may be misremembering it and mixing parts of it up with the Milligan stuff.
Just start with Gen Zero. It's 2 issues in and pretty standalone.
I can just start from the 2012 reboot, right? No need to go through the original runs?
echoshifting
Banned
It's crazy how long some of those characters have been around. I remember reading a couple issues of Bloodshot when I was like...twelve, maybe thirteen years old
No way do you need to go through that stuff man. Start that 2012 goodness.
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
I haven't touched any of that. Just start with the rebooted stuff.
Freezasaurus
Member
Even Lunchpod doesn't want anything to do with OG Valiant.
So continuing on through my "Slott Spider-man that happened to be a large chunk on sale on Comixology a big back" read-through, I finally hit Spider Island. And I enjoyed it, but man, it was disappointing that
an interesting premise like that just turned into "eh, now everyone's giant mind-controlled spiders, and also the generic villain turns into a big generic giant monster." Like, sure, I guess the plot needed to escalate the stakes to move towards a conclusion and that was just about the easiest way possible to do it, but it still felt a tad lame.
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
Let's just say... there's some good stuff in there... somewhere...
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
Also, if you have any confusion with the order or how events fit in, shoot me a PM. I'm happy to help.
BrightLightLava
Unconfirmed Member
I think the first six issues of Vision are on sale as well.
yea it is a Champion sale.
First arc of Vision, Spider-man, awesome hulk, and more.
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
You probably won't need to read all of Ms Marvel to get into Champions...
but you should do it anyway because it's effin amazing
true, I am buying what is not already on MU.
People say that because reading a Valiant book is usually what kills them. Save it for the end!
I tried some old Ninjak. I think a kid was turned into him by a playing a video game? Might have been a Waid run. Did not enjoy it. Would not recommend based on my vague memories.
Freezasaurus
Member
MHWilliams
Member
Feeling everything but the hoop earrings.
Freezasaurus
Member
God damn. Just finished Tank Girl: Two Girls One Tank. Really enjoyed it and I love Parson's art.
