Serpentine
Banned
Yes!!!!!!!!!!
after rave and JC murked him on twitter i just don't see him the same way anymore
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COMICS|OT|October 2017- The only thing scarier than Messi's avatar are Marvels sales
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Freezasaurus
Member
Not actually that bad for a 1/6 scale. Is the $160 for the white version? Because the original release was the same price.
Captain Phasma:
Pilot is going to die isn't she hope not hope she rebels
I think this comic is definitely better read after the novel and does build from her character there
Dawnbreak:
*Bruce Wayne is so awesome and his will is so strong he broke the rings non lethal protocal and use abilities no else had as a kid and kills the entire corps and the cosmic powered guardians*
Oh fuck off with that shit
The rest of the issue is fine but I agree that I hope the tie ins don't get repetitive and be just about "Bruce faces strategy, gains or steal powers, becomes evil fights justice league counterpart"
Batman: White Knight
I'm already in but I'm going to ignore Twitter but I'm intrigued so far
First time I heard someone used sjw in a comic but there was that gumball episode
Pilot is going to die isn't she hope not hope she rebels
I think this comic is definitely better read after the novel and does build from her character there
Dawnbreak:
*Bruce Wayne is so awesome and his will is so strong he broke the rings non lethal protocal and use abilities no else had as a kid and kills the entire corps and the cosmic powered guardians*
Oh fuck off with that shit
The rest of the issue is fine but I agree that I hope the tie ins don't get repetitive and be just about "Bruce faces strategy, gains or steal powers, becomes evil fights justice league counterpart"
Batman: White Knight
I'm already in but I'm going to ignore Twitter but I'm intrigued so far
First time I heard someone used sjw in a comic but there was that gumball episode
Vic_Viper
Member
Yeah didnt notice the 1/6th scale. And Think so, atleast thats what their website is listing it as.
CoolestSpot
Banned
Some one hook Abundant up with a Marvel editor stat. If I remember correctly I locate artist and writer near me known for a book called Hip-Hop Family Tree got hired by Marvel for X work, so maybe the last one will happen!
Freezasaurus
Member
It's gonna be on their web store tomorrow, too. I might try for it.
I mean, thats how all of them got their powers.
Freezasaurus
Member
I really enjoyed the novel. I just finished it earlier this week. Hope we see more of
Cardinal somewhere down the line
CoolestSpot
Banned
Yeah, some are upset that he is "goddamn batmaning" in a lot of these stories and just overpowers everyone once gaining these abilties, but that's the basic premise of most of these worlds in the "DARKVERSE". But it could be interesting if the event explores why Bruce's flaws make him not the ideal user of each power in different ways.
Some Nobody
Junior Member
Told ya. As a GL fan (and someone fucking tired of Batman), that whole issue just left me salty lol.
Poodlestrike
Banned
Batman: White Knight was deeply intellectually masturbatory. This really shouldn't be surprising after the business with the sight lines, but there you have it. Lots and lots of discussion of themes and messages on-panel don't really belong in a first issue. It especially stands out because it lacks any sort of thematic consistency (again, not really surprising after SGM's twitter shenanigans), fighting with two very different natures of Batman, and not in the "which of these is the real one!?!?1?" sort of way, but more in that the narrative demands one thing and presents another... sometimes. When it feels like it.
The first I'll call "Dark Knight Deconstructed;" Batman as a source of Gotham's misery to the same or greater extent as his rogues. This isn't something unusual to hear out of the Joker, but the fact that pre- and post- "cure" Napier take the same tack gives it a very odd flavor, especially with the lead-in (and tone of the surrounding characters) presumably indicating that he's in the right. There's a
So take #1 is a bit of a dud.
The second is more of a "Batman Off The Rails" thing, where Batman is a fundamentally good person and positive influence, but he's starting to lose his way. This is something that's directly pointed at by Dick and Barbra
The thing about this is, though, it needs contrast. You can't morally equate him with his rogues if you want to do this, and every other piece of trapping in the issue IS, especially the stuff with the news anchors.
So, yeah, bit of a miss. Probably not gonna keep going with this.
The first I'll call "Dark Knight Deconstructed;" Batman as a source of Gotham's misery to the same or greater extent as his rogues. This isn't something unusual to hear out of the Joker, but the fact that pre- and post- "cure" Napier take the same tack gives it a very odd flavor, especially with the lead-in (and tone of the surrounding characters) presumably indicating that he's in the right. There's a
extended chase sequence with him prior to being cured, on a scooter and Batman in the Batmobile, smashing stuff, knocking over security guards, all that. This is meant to reinforce the idea that Batman's "war on crime" is fundamentally as or more destructive than Napier's war for crime, but uh he's chasing the Joker. If this one is anything like the main comics Joker, a little property damage and a few bruised ribs ain't much. And if he's NOT that genocidal, you really have to establish that in front.
The second is more of a "Batman Off The Rails" thing, where Batman is a fundamentally good person and positive influence, but he's starting to lose his way. This is something that's directly pointed at by Dick and Barbra
during the chase, and the scene with Alfred in the hospital bed, which is easily my favorite bit of the issue and lends this Batman some much-needed emotional characterization.
So, yeah, bit of a miss. Probably not gonna keep going with this.
Freezasaurus
Member
I wonder if all this Batsturbation on DC's part will be what leads to Marvel's rise to dominance in 2018.
Cates and Walta on Doctor Strange is going to be fun: https://twitter.com/doncates/status/915691412800331776
Some Nobody
Junior Member
I don't know why I bristle at ideas like this. "What if Batman was really the bad guy?" "Is it just as much the fault of the hero as the villain that things go wrong?"
I don't know why, but they're supposed to seem deep but to me always come off as juvenile, low-tier pseudo-intellectual BS. Having said all that, I don't mean to disparage SGM--he's not the first guy to come up with a story like this and won't be the last--so I'm not trying to insult him at all. I just...I dunno. I just feel like sometimes the world isn't as grey or confusing as people like to pretend. Sometimes the bad guy is just a bad guy. Sounds bad, but...I mean....Donald Trump, y'know? There's depth to some villains, but often only in how depraved they can be.
Dammit, I forgot to log out of my alt. Sorry guys, won't happen again!
Some Nobody
Junior Member
Not sure if this question is srs or not lol. But:
1.) No, because Metal's over by February 2018. In the middle of that is Doomsday Clock, which is actually the bigger, universe-affecting story that'll last until November. That's a Superman-masturbatory thing. Variety~
2.) DC's been jerking off about Batman since 1986 and been fine, so I guess everything's fine.
3.) Usually what happens to make the pendulum swing back is one company gets worse while the other gets better. So Marvel needs to get better, too.
Poodlestrike
Banned
It's less that "what if the bad guys were good!" is an inherently shitty question to center a book around and more that the legwork required generally defeats most authors, and it's an extremely difficult sell with established superheroes. Batman is absolutely not worse than the Joker because over the last 75 years we've seen what the Joker gets up to and HOLY SHIT is it nasty, so why bother asking the question?
You could do something like this better with either an original universe or somebody like Punisher. Although Punisher is kind of low-hanging fruit.
https://www.newsarama.com/36726-adam-warlock-to-return-in-guardians-of-the-galaxy-150.html
Next Guardians arc featuring a returning character. More details to be revealed at the panel tomorrow
is it by any chance Adam Warlock?
Poodlestrike
Banned
It's Urien from Street Fighter.
Sibersk Esto
Banned
Freezasaurus
Member
I am never serious except when I talk about how much I hate things that Messi loves.
Freezasaurus
Member
ATTENTION MESSI, ATTENTION MESSI, DCBS HAS UPDATED AND THERE ARE NEW HARLEY AND JOELLE JONES STATUES AVAILABLE
I'm probably not buying any of them. And that Jessica Cruz Bombshell has crazyface.
That is because your heart is cold and black.
I'm probably not buying any of them. And that Jessica Cruz Bombshell has crazyface.
That is because your heart is cold and black.
4C rumor about the book announcements by Mahvoo, bullshit likely but who knows? Also the first two were just revealed today and yet, they are trying to pass it off like they leaked it LOL
Gambit/Rogue
Legion
Wolverines (OML/Laura crossover)
Ant-Man and the Wasp
Cloak and Dagger
Royals to become Inhumans again.
The Incredible Hulk (Banner) and Invincible Iron Man will get new teams.
Legion
Wolverines (OML/Laura crossover)
Ant-Man and the Wasp
Cloak and Dagger
Royals to become Inhumans again.
The Incredible Hulk (Banner) and Invincible Iron Man will get new teams.
Poodlestrike
Banned
That was such a great issue.
I loved how it focused on something Bruce's mother told him, so many Batman parental moments center around his dad.
... They did establish that. They mentioned he was only really nailed for armed robbery, so either he's never done anything as bad as in the main comics, or he's very good at covering his tracks. As for the rest of your criticisms, I'd say give issue 2 a shot before giving up. This was 100% a set up chapter, the real meat begins at 2 most likely.
Hmm there is the universal church of truth in Guardians 2
and his cacoon
It would be very convenient if he comes back
Some Nobody
Junior Member
Really? I liked it. I'm a sucker for romantic moments, even though in general I'm not big on how emotional King has made Batman.
And Guardians lost me. I know I might be a jerk or whatever for not letting go of DnA Guardians, but I haven't and I won't lol. I hope it continues to do well, though!
The only bad things that have popped up in Guardians have been DnA shit.
LordOfLore
Banned
Yeah, thats probably why he comes back. Much like Nebula suddenly being a major GotG enemy and sister to Gamora after GotG1.
I doubt they'll change the team on Iron Man, They're hyping up issue #600 which isn't due until next May, unless they start double shipping. I would be surprised if the move Bendis off the book before then.
Everything else seems to be fairly plausible. Except maybe Royals, I think it's more likely they end the Inhuman books and launch one or two new Inhuman books with new teams and "correct" numbering,
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
I really doubt it since he didn't have a role in Guardians 2 and 3 won't be coming for a while. It's likely due to the character's role in Infinity Guantlet and the current story.
Tony is returning in 600 and Bendis definitely isn't leaving before then.
man I can't believe all of Marvel's problems were down to one comic book shop owner tweeting about sales
LordOfLore
Banned
Wow, Slott is mad people are public with how things are going.
LordOfLore
Banned
He is named and his creation is started at the end of 2. Gamoras ANGotG issue was about her and Warlock(and Phyla)while retconning how the Soul Gem works.
Some Nobody
Junior Member
Next May is a long way off, but it's:
1.) Only seven issues off, which isn't much in raw numbers.
2.) Before SDCC '18
They could announce the new Iron Man writer here no problem if Bendis is leaving at 600. I'd be fine with a new writer--I love Riri Williams but I think we've seen the best Bendis has to offer outside of that. Time to switch things up.
Poodlestrike
Banned
He was only really nailed for armed robbery but he's also called out as one of the most dangerous criminals in the city, buuuut by the conservative pundit so idk. You may be right. If so I'm not totally clear on why he's in Arkham or why he's got the reputation he does, a string of bank heists with a clown theme doesn't really call for that. Not to mention the "all they were able to nail him on" trope sort of implies more that they weren't, for whatever reason.
As to trying another issue, we'll see how I feel next month.
Fuck this Ryan guy for not being Marvel's PR guy for free, I guess? 🤔
LordOfLore
Banned
Some Nobody
Junior Member
Ryan Higgins is a comic store owner. He's notable because he's usually pretty vocal on trends and how stuff does in store. I can see Slott's point kinda, but I mean...if Ryan's talking it up in store and they're like "Nah fam that's cool but lemme get a copy of Red Hood & the Outlaws" then that's not his problem.