FalsettoVibe
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This thread will be great in about 4 months.
This thread will be great in about 4 months.
Systemic fire was already done in Far Cry 2. In fact Zelda seems to take a lot of its design from Far Cry minus the checklist stuff(which is Okay by me because the Check list design in Far Cry is total Ass as is the upgrading in that game which Zelda Streamlines).
Actually, I'd say that Zelda: BoTW is likely going to be what Far Cry should be.
Interestingly, the game's cut content included something we wouldn't see properly implemented until the next century in titles like Far Cry 2 (and Four Swords Adventures!): proper fire.
"There were a variety of ideas that didn't make it into the game. Using the lantern on a grassy area to cause an endlessly expanding fire, for example". That feature wasn't cut for lack of ambition, either: Miyamoto reckons that with another six months development time they could have got it working in the game.
Comparison
Horizon plays better than Zelda
Horizon looks better than Zelda
Horizon has voice acting
Horizon has more enemies variety
Overall yeah Zelda is not in the same league.
One thing Horizon has going for it that Zelda doesn't is the guy who wrote Honest Hearts is writing Horizon. If that doesn't make you hyped for a game, you're in the wrong hobby
One thing Horizon has going for it that Zelda doesn't is the guy who wrote Honest Hearts is writing Horizon. If that doesn't make you hyped for a game, you're in the wrong hobby
Have you seen the videos with Steppe Talus on the plateau in BotW? If Talus is anything to go by, then expect this level of challenge with formal bosses as well. And most enemies in the gameplay footage (apart from the base bokoblins) have shown high levels of damage output.Yeah, I think both games will surprise many, and excel in different areas. Based on what I've watched
Horizon
- More engaging and fun combat like Monster Hunter
- Higher Visual achievements
- Souls-like challenge w/boss fights
- Fun & Interesting story
Zelda BOTW
- Unique Puzzles and Dungeons as most Zelda titles achieve
- Very varied gameplay scenarios because of all the psychics-based mechanics
- Greater Freedom than your average open-world game
- classic fun combat/charm/nostalgia Zelda titles are known for
Have you seen the videos with Steppe Talus on the plateau in BotW? If Talus is anything to go by, then expect this level of challenge with formal bosses as well. And most enemies in the gameplay footage (apart from the base bokoblins) have shown high levels of damage output.
My issue with Zelda is while Horizon looks like a good video game AND a good Horizon game, Zelda seems to be a good Zelda game, but sadly a bad video game, if that makes sense
You've literally not played either game and are factually wrong on multiple accounts but considering your post history it's not very surprising.Comparison
Horizon plays better than Zelda
Horizon looks better than Zelda
Horizon has voice acting
Horizon has more enemies variety
Overall yeah Zelda is not in the same league.
Or I just don't care about Fallout. His contribution to the game has absolutely zero bearing on my interest in it.
But the development group who made Honest Hearts isn't making Horizon. I love New Vegas, but I can't pin its successes on one guy.
I didn't say you have to care about Fallout. If you want good writing in a new upcoming game, it might be good news to hear an extremely well respected writer is working on it...
... but you can pin the successes of the writing on the guy who wrote it, can you not?
Not exactly. Everyone on the Dev team is a story teller. I think I can be confident in the dialogue since that's given the most direct contact with the writers in games. But the actual story telling comes down to everyone on the dev team. It could be great, or even fantastic. But Game Development is messy enough that I don't know what could happen.
Well if you've ever played a Guerilla game, you'd know most of what has been holding them back is dialogue and writing. Their gameplay, graphics, design, and lore are either well done or exceptional, but they have always faltered on providing good dialogue and small-scale narrative.
Man I genuinely really wish her skin tone was that dark in the actual game. :/
BotW looks far more interactive. Horizon just looks like a standard open world game (pretty and fun as that may be).
Being able to set fire to objects and play around with physics to the extent that Zelda promises really feels like it has the potential to break new ground.
I'm probably not going to buy Horizon. But I'll be there day 1 for Zelda.
Actually no, we don't have to kinda agree on anything. I created those gifs from E3 footage, i've watched almost 3hrs worth of E3 Zelda footage and BoTW looks to be one of, if not the best Zelda game to date and the only Zelda game i've liked is Wind Waker. That being said, Horizon appeals to me more than Zelda and i find its combat more varied.
I didn't say you have to care about Fallout. If you want good writing in a new upcoming game, it might be good news to hear an extremely well respected writer is working on it...
You also said people who aren't excited for his involvement are in the wrong hobby, which is obviously nonsense.
It was hyperbole, jeez
EDIT: and if that's true, I don't know where to even begin
Man I genuinely really wish her skin tone was that dark in the actual game. :/
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with minorities becoming less and less the minority scifi media really needs to address that imho.
I can't help but feel your criticisms of the gameplay are lacking in nuance, (If you would allow me to be reductive, your arguments are that these things are bad just because they're bad). I don't disagree with you on the visuals of the game (as I note in the OP) outside the fact that it's pretty safe to assume that the Switch version runs at a locked or close to locked framerate (so technically they are releasing it on more capable hardware?)
Also on Voice acting, I've been pretty disappointed with the Voice acting in Horizon so far, it feels quite wooden, really needs some rerecording if you ask me (a lot of trailer lines are pretty cringe which doesn't help), Aloy is alright in places I suppose, but it really takes me out of the experience to hear poor voice acting in general. Zelda might not have as much voice acting but what's there is good.
Excited for both, more so for Zelda since the last 3d one we got was 6 years ago?
While Zelda looks gorgeous in some areas it lacks visual in other areas like places with low/to no grass. And horizon while really interesting man vs machine thing going on, my problem with it is that the open world part of it looks boring. seems like typical open world check list jank seems more like a game where when I play it will just rush to play and finish just to see the story instead of taking in and exploring the world which looks more fun in Zelda.
My issue with Zelda is while Horizon looks like a good video game AND a good Horizon game, Zelda seems to be a good Zelda game, but sadly a bad video game, if that makes sense
They really need to show the caves/dungeons in Horizon already to get people more excited.
I dunno if it would excite me but it would be nice to see something in this game that you do besides killing robots and listening to disinterested voice actingWhy should caves/dungeons get people excited?
I wish Aloy was a little thicker. Her arms look a little thin to be constantly wielding a bow. Of course I also considered Gal Gadot to be too thin for the role of wonder woman so I am a little biased.Man I genuinely really wish her skin tone was that dark in the actual game. :/
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with minorities becoming less and less the minority scifi media really needs to address that imho.
Why should caves/dungeons get people excited?
I dunno if it would excite me but it would be nice to see something in this game that you do besides killing robots and listening to disinterested voice acting
If i critique a game I must be biased, gotchaSo you have no interest in the game. Cool.
If i critique a game I must be biased, gotcha
You realize that an open world game needs a variety of things to do in it for it to not to be boring right. You can't kill robots for 50 hours
She looks like she's obviously mixed race in the concept art but appears much more caucasian in skin tone in the actual game.She is still white in that concept art. Also I like her design just as is. It's perfect.
She looks like she's obviously mixed race in the concept art but appears much more caucasian in skin tone in the actual game.
Isn't Horizon more like Monster Hunter? I mean, it's evidently a valid topic for discussion, but the purist in me resists to compare a new IP to a new instalment in what's probably the most critically acclaimed franchise in the medium.
Isn't Horizon more like Monster Hunter? I mean, it's evidently a valid topic for discussion, but the purist in me resists to compare a new IP to a new instalment in what's probably the most critically acclaimed franchise in the medium.
Isn't Horizon more like Monster Hunter? I mean, it's evidently a valid topic for discussion, but the purist in me resists to compare a new IP to a new instalment in what's probably the most critically acclaimed franchise in the medium.
The three gaming inspirations that they've mentioned for Horizon are Monster Hunter, Binary Domain, and Dragon's Dogma.
why not have both?
Franz Brötchen;226666971 said:Yeah, in an alternate universe where our first glimpse of BotW wasn't that E3 2013 teaser but this year's two trailers we wouldn't even have this thread to begin with.
Mostly because of both games' apparent archery-focus, people even get the idea to compare them head-to-head instead of the probably better fitting Monster Hunter (or maybe Tomb Raider or Witcher) vs Horizon.
The three gaming inspirations that they've mentioned for Horizon are Monster Hunter, Binary Domain, and Dragon's Dogma.
She looks like she's obviously mixed race in the concept art but appears much more caucasian in skin tone in the actual game.
If i critique a game I must be biased, gotcha
You realize that an open world game needs a variety of things to do in it for it to not to be boring right. You can't kill robots for 50 hours
looks black to meLooks white to me.
looks black to me