Congress Deluged with 1.5 Million calls per day coming in, most about DeVos
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Ether_Snake
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Nothing can get in the way of Betsy DeVos's Defensive Smiling technique.
I know this all worked out for trump, but I just can't wrap my head around "Look at how rich they are, they are above corruption!" without understanding that they are the corrupters.
JetBlackPanda
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Yup, we elect people to represent us but they don't have to. Make these assholes pay In Nov '18 if Republicans win big in '18? Well..
A Human Becoming
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It's too bad it seems none of the other Republicans are budging. Party before country for most of them.
hodayathink
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In terms of the Senate, the problem is that there are a few vulnerable Democrats up for re-election (basically Dems in states that went for Trump), and not as many vulnerable Republicans. It's going to take the Republican party doing something pretty stupid (and given that it is the Republican Party, that is entirely possible) to swing things enough for Dems to take back the Senate. Now, if the base can stay fired up for the next 2 years, and we can do a better job of finding local candidates, the House could be in play.
'member when people thought Sasse was gonna stand up to trump
All of Nebraska's GOP officials are stooges.
Vicetrailia
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This is actually the canned response, it's not specific. Democrats are more educated around the picks due to the nature of the situation, and the aware Trump supporters that I do know do not support her (but they work in education). At work (Trumpland) no one knows anything about her except for the possibility of bringing business sense to the white house. So yes, it's steeped in ignorance versus actually knowing what she stands for. They all went to public schools (so do their kids), and if they knew her history they'd have doubts (but would likely still support and hope for the best since it's a Trump pick).
Joel Was Right
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If DeVos gets confirmed regardless, then this type of public engagement would have been for nothing.
Darkstorne
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Haha what!? I'm pretty sure kids with guns at school have caused 10,000% more deaths than grizzlies turning up to schools.
Evil Monkey DTT
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Calls aren't working, I don't know what does but the peaceful protests aren't stopping this train.
Guess what
Calls are working. A nominee having to squeak by on the Vice President's tiebreaker vote is *humiliating* and historically unprecedented.
shnurgleton
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Good to confirm that our elected representatives don't represent us.
Results are the same until we get a change in government.
Doubt the "swing voters" pay attention to this stuff but we'll see.
Relaxed Muscle
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"This is working"
Sure it did.
The protest against DeVos was never going to be measured by getting her rejected. Anyone who thought that would happen was just being naive. The real measure is the response to her confirmation as well as reminding senators that people are paying attention
BreezyLimbo
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Yup.
People need to realize that calling does jack shit. Theyre in power right now, a phone call isnt going to give them a conscious.
Yep. And reminding them people are going to remember this and be out for blood in 2018. Even with the hard house and senate races, Democrats are going to make big gains by the way things are going.
It will remind them there is a big chance they won't be in power soon. It's a fine way to speak up. Them ignoring the concerns of citizens is going to bite them in the ass hard.
Evil Monkey DTT
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I don't care how humiliating it is, we are still stick with her. Fuck these small victories this is horrific and we have the majority on our side.
Relaxed Muscle
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The response of the current administration and the republican party to people preassure and protests has been "fake news" and "we don't care" basically.
Preassure only works when the leaders care about it. They know they have half of the country against them, they don't care.
balladofwindfishes
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The calls absolutely mattered. Never before has a VP had to step in on a confirmation. This entire thing is a massive embarrassment for the GOP.
Clearly, you must be joking. We've had appointments outright denied before.
You can't Gerrymander the Senate. You can't gerrymander at all if you don't have control of the state legislatures. So instead of complaining, why don't you try to get bipartisan redistricting laws passed, and voter suppression laws repealed.
No, it's actually the truth. Usually candidates never even made it onto the floor, and a vote to confirm a cabinet position has never in history been this contentious.
KoopaTheCasual
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Please don't insult Warren like that.
They don't care because they haven't faced any consequences. Today's GOP senators only fear report cards from right-wing interest groups.
but the reality is, Democratic voters hold a lot of power, even in deep red states. Ask Thad Cochran. They need to be reminded of this fact, and that is where calls help. None of this matters unless people actually vote in 2018 (and the local elections before then), but we'll see
It broke two of them. And it's important for people to see not just that they're voting for awful shit, but that they're willfully ignoring the will of their constituents when doing it. That's important for making the case to vote them out in 2018 and 2020. It also slowed things down. Every extra day they had to spend on DeVos was time not dedicated to doing other awful shit. At this point in 2009 Obama had almost his full cabinet in place and had already signed major legislation.
Also, it's just good to make their lives hell. Don't let their office have a second of peace, don't give them space to breathe.
Nope. People have withdrawn from consideration before due to pressure, but no one has actually gotten to the vote and come this close.
nintendoman58
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There was literally a big blow made against gerrymandering made a week ago.
I'm noticing you posting defeatist rhetoric in every single thread, even with positive news. Please stop.
Exactly.
Man Called Aerodynamics
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Trump has four more years in office, we can't give up being engaged just because we lost one battle in the second week.
I do feel like these call mattered still. I believe our base is now fired up again in a big way, and DeVos will be a powerful focus point for protests and other actions to fight back against this administration.
So yeah, she got in, but I believe this will fire people up in a big way to Primary these fuckers when they've got the chance.
So yeah, she got in, but I believe this will fire people up in a big way to Primary these fuckers when they've got the chance.
Bruce Springsteen
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Sadly it made ZERO difference, and all these republicans will get re elected also
Gotdatmoney
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She was always going to get confirmed because the GOP does not care about what the people have to say. They have power. They will just push through w/e bullshit no matter what. But at least they know people are watching their bullshit right now.
Angelus Errare
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Evil Monkey DTT
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Giving up isn't what's being said. But we need strikes, we need actual impact other then showing up. Call your unions, make that impact.
Democrats don't vote in Democratic midterms. Republicans won't vote in Republican midterms. The only time in recent history the opposing parties haven't gained during a midterm was in 2002 and 1998, both for obvious reasons. Unless a major terrorist attack happens, expect democrats to gain.
Netherscourge
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Phone calls are meaningless folks.
You want to be heard?
Send MONEY. That's what DeVos did.
You want to be heard?
Send MONEY. That's what DeVos did.
The thing about the next four years is that Trump's gonna get some W's, big and small. The question is will he pay any price in public opinion for them?
Imagine a world where the left collectively sighed on November 9th and said "gg guys, see you all September 2019 for the pre-primaries!"
Trump's got historically low approval ratings and is having to fight congress on routine stuff. His biggest Executive Order is snarled in the courts.
Alternatively, picture it like the French/Polish/Yugoslav Resistance. Yeah they won and there's nothing we can do about it, but we can sure as heck upset the Axis Powers and keep everything askew until the Allies come.
nintendoman58
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