Shaunboy97
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LOL they need to take some notes from Ryse
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LOL they need to take some notes from Ryse
TAJ
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Everyone needs to take notes from NBA2K14. The range, the subtlety, the perfect context... dayum.
uhhhh, dude, if you think you're making an argument in favor of crytek using these examples, i dont think it works out. the image quality on both is superb as well as textures. IMO art style goes to KZ by a mile. besides theres some weak geometry in some of those crytek shots.
DemonCleaner
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man you really should play it first before making such bold statements. its uncanny how much of KZ's small detail is lost in stills or compressed video.
i won't cherry pic this, i just hope the comparison thread isnt of that quality. really just watch this parts in motion against another and see its not even a contest..
Trevelyan9999
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Dat Future China:
nelsonroyale
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Well, KKRT00 comparison was pretty cherry picked and doesnt do either game many favours, particularly Crysis 3 actually. Disagree on the lighting, particularly some of the day time lighting, which looks too high contrast and a bit bland in Crysis 3, just as it has looked in all crysis games. Lighting usually shines best in night scenes and evening, and early morning scenes. You could easily select some screens from this thread that looks a deal more impressive than those KKRT00 posted of both games....
Probably better to use a video to show it though, gamersyde to the rescue: http://www.gamersyde.com/download_killzone_shadow_fall_environments-31296_en.html
KKRT00 facts are given in figures though, not in aesthetic comparisons so if you could give figures to back up your assertion it would be appreciate.
Pjsprojects
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What platform?
Also where is this outside snow area? I only started playing it last night and its just space ship & mines so far in multiplayer.(pc).
Ardenyal
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On PS4. Just took the HUD off for a mission.
I can't remember which planet this was on but the environments vary from planet to planet. There's some nice desert environments aswell later on.
If that is true, it just further highlights how bad Crytek can be at optimisations sometimes, given that Shadow Fall's character models look far higher poly, and with better textures too.
DemonCleaner
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and thats exactly why you cant simply subtract art from the graphics equaction to get technology. if GG can realize (empirical perceived) better character models with only the third of the polycount isn't that technically better?
aside from the character models im pretty sure that on an aquivalent near diameter around the players position, KZ has the highest geometry detail of any shooter aka highest poly environment assets to date.
dr guildo
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When I see this :
VS that :
At least, all I can say is that light and shaders (materials render) are definitely on the side of KZSF.
Caayn
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You can sit with the new Kinect
KSR works just as fine when I'm sitting I notice no difference in reaction/precision.Great now I'm thirsty
Yeah i agree. BF 4 is great achievement for 60fps.
I was talking about textures, just wanted to show that GG underutilized PoM, which is understandable as this is their first next-gen title.
And PoM makes night and day different for textures.
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But those characters are not directly comparable, like 1:1, because they focus on something completely different. Like for example KZ:SF characters do not have face at all, ears, they dont have tons of movable parts on their models etc.
We would need Crysis 4 to make better comparison in that department.
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Crysis 3 in motion looks also much better
And i completely agree that KZ:SF has much better art style.
Comparison thread wont have one to one comparison from different games, its impossible, because of difference in assets and art style. It will be more like a compilation of all tech features of a game with good examples.
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Its not cherry picked, it was done like in 15 minutes, based on some shots from this thread, which i found browsing through some of pages here and some of my shots on minus.com. As i said, its not good comparison at all and it does not touch anything but textures.
I just wanted to show how PoM is utilized in Crysis 3 and how big difference it makes. Like, You can see some PoM examples in KZ:SF, but they are quite mediocre, like those small rocks texture posted several times, they also look quite broken from some angles.
Its GG's first next-gen title, so its understandable though.
And what figures? For textures? Just lack of PoM is enough. For characters polys, there are sources for both games, but they were aiming for different effect, like i said earlier. Its hard to compare anything except for materials and faces in character models, really
I didnt want to make this thread a comparison thread, so lets just finish it here and continue in a week in proper thread, agree? :>
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Btw I love some assets in KZ:SF, some have outstanding quality. I dont have examples currently, but several pages ago there was nice wall texture on a box and there was a screenshots of very high quality cables going behind a ladder, etc.
I think this game looks great. Obligatory I want waverace Wii U post.
When I see this :
VS that :
At least, all I can say is that light and shaders (materials render) are definitely on the side of KZSF.
When I look at both of those.......... I say................. dayyyaaaaaaaaaaaaamnnnnnnnnn, gaming is crazy in 2013.
ElfArmy177
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Why do my ps4 games have more jaggies then the shots here???
Uno Venova
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Yeah, I don't any large difference between the two. Which makes Guerrilla look really good on a technical level.
Pjsprojects
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COD Ghost: Wii U
That's a nice mix of shots, most Ghosts shots are the space bit(mine included).
Like the hat?
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Hidden Luigi
Always-honest
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Why do my ps4 games have more jaggies then the shots here???
Maybe turn your sharpness down to 0?
Killzone has jaggies, but from a normal viewing distance it's really clean.
Reign_Of_Rain
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nelsonroyale
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When I see this :
At least, all I can say is that light and shaders (materials render) are definitely on the side of KZSF.
or that to this:
Again I think it holds up exceptionately well.
Reign_Of_Rain
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This game really makes me want a WiiU. Might have to get one soon
I'll get one when the next Super Smash Bros. is out(hopefully, but most likely).
Like the hat?
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Reign_Of_Rain
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Ricerocket
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Killzone SF and Ryse are both monsters but KZ looks like it has more going on and at higher res (effects and everything) than Ryse (nice player models).
Looks like I'm the X1's savior in this thread, lol, I would love to post more Killer Instinct, Forza 5, Dead Rising 3, Crimson Dragon and more but I need the right time to do it and go for the best screens as all those X1 games have lots of jaggies, seems Ryse is still the only one with good AA so far.
It almost looks like they're having a party
Hehe. I took some environment shots in Ryse, they didn't look so good, only these were decent:
Also noticed that when you stand against a torch, you see its reflection in Marius' eyes
The problem with Ryse is that it looks far more impressive in motion than it does in stills due to the resolution.
Glad you could help. And that's pretty sweet to know about his eyes, very realistic. But I think the forest level is one of the best looking levels in the game.
That's gonna get removed from miiverse quick.
dr guildo
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Also noticed that when you stand against a torch, you see its reflection in Marius' eyes
The problem with Ryse is that it looks far more impressive in motion than it does in stills due to the resolution.
WOW, looks like a real dude, unbelievable !
Edit : My main problem with cryengine3, is its inability to render metal properly.
Can't unsee it now!
revolverjgw
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Looks like they're dancing the YMCA or something
nelsonroyale
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Also noticed that when you stand against a torch, you see its reflection in Marius' eyes
The problem with Ryse is that it looks far more impressive in motion than it does in stills due to the resolution.
Its awesome how much more convincing the character models look than Crysis 3. Better geometry makes a difference.
dr guildo
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