Cycom
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188,000 died BECAUSE of covid?
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COVID 1 in a million chance of death; as risky as taking a bath expert
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Yes.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
From the article. so it's 1 in 100. not in 1 in 2 million. the 1 in 2 million figure is assuming that those people never get covid19. are you suggesting that 2 million people dont take baths everyday?
Maxwell Jacob Friedman
leads to fear. Fear leads to xbox.
The fact you think it will be here forever is you pandering to your own moronic fear mongering. How many other pandemics have we had that just "stuck" around. Hell even the most recent one sars was gone within a year and a half.
Once a vaccine is made and then tested thoroughly enough as well as giving times to potentially cover other strains then will it be gone. Now im just worried about moronic people who refuse to get vaccinated for "reasons" which will then yes keep it around maybe for a while
basically the "flu" yet its already more deadly than the flu in half the time. If your so confident I dare you to go out and get it and see how you fare, report back here how your experience is if your that confident its a flu
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poppabk
Cheeks Spread for Digital Only Future
Not just that but per day risk - currently. At it's height 3 times as many people were dying per day from Covid than die in a bathtub in a year.
On average you were roughly 100 times more likely to die from Covid than drown in a bathtub this year.
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diffusionx
Gold Member
I did get it, it was the flu. Same as it has been for tens of millions of people if not hundreds of millions. Stop being scared.
It is far from inevitable we get a vaccine, and it is very possible (likely IMO) that this just becomes part of the flu season going forward.
Far from “moronic fear mongering”, I am accepting the possibility that this is not going to go away, and that there is no need to hunker down in our homes and destroy everything we know.
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Bullshit. It take months, sometimes years to get a transplant for anything. A girl you know just happen to skip to the front of the line and get a lung?
Mr Nash
square pies = communism
Expert says Covid 'as dangerous as having a bath' after calculating death risk
Economist Tim Harford crunched the numbers collated by the Office of National Statistics and concluded the threat of Covid-19 in England currently "seems modest, for now"www.mirror.co.uk
Time to end baths NOW. If you take a bath you are a grandma killer.
Well, I guess it's a good thing I only take showers!
Explosive Zombie
Banned
I don't care what you believe, there's correlation there, while correlation isn't causation the people arguing lockdowns WORK don't even have correlation for their argument.
Coronavirus Hits Peru Hard Despite Strict Lockdown
Peru implemented one of the Western Hemisphere’s strictest lockdowns to slow the coronavirus pandemic. But the country is now grappling with Latin America’s worst outbreak outside of Brazil.
www.wsj.com
Cycom
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Maxwell Jacob Friedman
leads to fear. Fear leads to xbox.
Sure post your positive test result then
also no one is saying hunker down, what everyone has been saying is wear a mask and socially distance. But entitled twats cant even understand that it seems. Again its not about you, its about people who are vulnerable and being able to take care of them and also not overwhelming an already overwhelmed health care system from doctors to nurses
MetalAlien
Banned
Yes to 1, and nothing would surprise me at this point to 2. The whole thing is a huge scam. The best lies have some truth to them. Sorry for your loss.
diffusionx
Gold Member
Right, fuck off. Believe me or not, I don’t care.
It’s not “wear a mask and socially distance”, it is close everything and keep it closed indefinitely, send tens of thousands of small business owners into financial ruin, destroy local communities because there are no businesses and no jobs, send tens of millions of people into unemployment indefinitely. That is what the restrictions are.
And hospitals have been so overwhelmed they are laying off millions of people.
bitbydeath
Member
Someone drowns in a tub nearly every day in America
An American drowns nearly every day in a bathtub, hot tub or spa, and the deaths occur...
www.seattlepi.com
Ozzy Onya A2Z
Member
Something about this doesn't add up here:
Around one person in 100 dies after catching the bug and another one in 100 suffer long-term effects, which translates to a one in two million chance of dying in England, Mr Harford said.
Comical. I think this person should isolate from mathematics, probabilities and statistics. Actually I'm mildly surprised they were able to form legible sentences.
Explosive Zombie
Banned
The one in two million is based on anyone, not just people who are known to have caught COVID.
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Omega Supreme Holopsicon
Banned
Complete and utter BS.
How can it be 1 in 100 suffering long term effects, when even asymptomatic can end up with long term damage.
iirc, over 65 it was something on the order of 16~% chance of death. Basically russian roulette.
What we know (so far) about the long-term health effects of Covid-19
As researchers continue to uncover the long list of potential Covid-19 symptoms, some physicians are beginning to explore the disease's possible long-term effects on patients with more severe symptoms, Lois Parshley writes for Vox. Here's what the research shows so far.
www.advisory.com
66 out of 70 covid survivors had some level of lung damage visible in ct scans.
Now here's the thing, worse case scenario if this thing can actually reinfect you and subsequent reinfections cause cumulative lung damage and organ damage through things like clots, that would be a very serious problem.
Hopefully some level of immunity builds up, or it's less severe in subsequent infections. If not enough cumulative damage and you're going to start increasing the number of individuals that will suffer from disability due to covid. This could in worse case cripple the social security system and the economy long term.
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Omega Supreme Holopsicon
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Not only might you have long term lung damage. It is possible you might have had a few microstrokes that might have diminished your mental faculties, the clots might also have caused some damage throughout your other organs. If you're male your fertility might also have gone down.
More worrisome is some data suggests you could get reinfected. What if that reinfection does additional cumulative damage? How many rounds can you go, before accumulating damage impacts your basic way of life.
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diffusionx
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Arizona News
Arizona Breaking news, local stories, and On Your Side investigations from the state’s largest television newsroom.www.azfamily.com
Not only might you have long term lung damage. It is possible you might have had a few microstrokes that might have diminished your mental faculties, the clots might also have caused some damage throughout your other organs. If you're male your fertility might also have gone down.
More worrisome is some data suggests you could get reinfected. What if that reinfection does additional cumulative damage? How many rounds can you go, before accumulating damage impacts your basic way of life.
Keep being scared man. The bottom line is millions of people have gotten this - many more millions than documented - and I tend to believe if this was a widespread problem it would be crushing hospitals and doctors’ offices right now. It’s not. As for “basic way of life“, the government took that away from me months ago. I’d rather have fucked up blood clot lungs and be able to go out to a bar and meet people and look them in the eye than this fucked up shit. Give me a fucking break.
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Cycom
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It’s such a deadly pandemic that hospitals have had to let go hundreds of thousands of people.
Airbus Jr
Banned
What do you mean by that
You mean my relatives death is nothing but a huge scam and a big fat lie is that what are you trying to say?
Airbus Jr
Banned
Youre implying 6 percent death is a low percentage so their death doesnt matter is that what are you tring to say?
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Maxwell Jacob Friedman
leads to fear. Fear leads to xbox.
They laid off workers because they couldnt comit to elective surgeries they once had due to the pandemic and not knowing who is sick etc.
1. things are open where I am but masks are required in some businesses and with social distancing measures
2. A competent government would have helped its citizens well in advance. Hell most of my friends that lost their jobs got 2 grand a month and that was enough for them to get by, on top of that some picked up an essential working job because on top of the 2 grand they got they could make an additional 1,000 from work earnings and not be penalized.
so no its not always about a mass closure. It worked in the beginning to pad numbers and keep the stress on thr system down. When nunbers get lower then you can return to somewhat normal as ling as you follow protocols such as masks and social distancing etc.
oh and my uncle works at nintendo
Dr.Guru of Peru
played the long game
Jtibh
Banned
That the death ratio is less then the seasonal flus that fyi also makes children very sick unlike this covid and therefore all these lockdowns masks etc are just one big bull
poppabk
Cheeks Spread for Digital Only Future
You really think that we just happened to have 200,000 extra deaths in the US this year just by chance.
MetalAlien
Banned
The lie isn't that they died, it's that they died from a disease that is any worse than the flu.
Ten_Fold
Member
Oh yeah Covid is very real, the numbers are probably off, I say this. If your healthy then it’s probably not gonna bother you much, if you have breathing issues, and other health issues, then you could possibly be effected or die. Not sure why they think this is the worst thing ever.
Airbus Jr
Banned
Its very baffling to seee up to this that some people still think that covid 19 that reported to have numerous mutation (latest is G mutation) and can cause fatal multiple organ failure is apparently no worse than a simple flu
But thanks for the news anyway
Seriously some of you neogafers have no idea how the situation is inside the hospital right now
Medical workers are collapsing and crying because theyre too tired and stressed out from seeing dead people and this is how you apreciate their hard work
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lukilladog
Member
It is the worst thing I ever saw in my life, too many people is dying around me in such a short period of time. Skeptics and deniers will change their tune at some point, at least the ones without an agenda.
Airbus Jr
Banned
Four in 10 doctors struggling with mental health because of pandemic
Four in 10 doctors (41%) working on the frontline of the fight against the Covid-19 pandemic are experiencing poor mental health, including anxiety, depression and burnout, that relates to, or has been made worse by, their work.
According to the British Medical Association – which has been closely monitoring the health and wellbeing of heathcare staff during the pandemic – long working hours, worries about PPE, fears about contracting the coronavirus and losing such a high number of patients to the virus have had a significant impact on their mental wellbeing over the past few months.
Its latest tracker survey, which received around 7,000 responses from doctors, found 29% said a mental health condition they had had got worse during the pandemic.
One doctor said: “I feel I have aged over the past three months, with variable levels of anxiety and stress; it’s been a rollercoaster of emotions, whilst trying to run a practice and protect my staff.”
Others described feeling worried about bringing the virus home to their families and feeling frequently tearful about those who have lost their lives.
“It’s difficult to get over watching people slip away without physical contact with their loved ones… it’s painful. Saying that we tried our best when you know the best won’t be good enough is excruciating,” said one respondent.
The BMA’s wellbeing support services had seen a 40% increase in use over the past three months, including from those who felt anxious about facing unknown situations at work.
The organisation has called for more mental health and wellbeing support for doctors and a long-term strategy that protects and maintains the physical, mental, and emotional wellbeing of the NHS.
“This week has seen a sea-change with doctors coming forward in an outpouring of heart-breaking accounts that lay bare the heavy toll that Covid-19 has had on our mental health and wellbeing,” said Dr David Wrigley, BMA council deputy chair and wellbeing lead.
“Doctors are understandably anxious about their own health and the risks posed to their loved ones. This is exacerbated over concerns that a second peak may be just around the corner.
“Throughout this pandemic doctors and healthcare workers have been painted as heroes – and the efforts that they have gone to in caring for their patients is certainly heroic. But they are not superhuman. They need to feel able to seek help and that help must be readily available.”
Be human and respect these people
Youre not helping the situation by underestimating the disease
Four in 10 doctors (41%) working on the frontline of the fight against the Covid-19 pandemic are experiencing poor mental health, including anxiety, depression and burnout, that relates to, or has been made worse by, their work.
According to the British Medical Association – which has been closely monitoring the health and wellbeing of heathcare staff during the pandemic – long working hours, worries about PPE, fears about contracting the coronavirus and losing such a high number of patients to the virus have had a significant impact on their mental wellbeing over the past few months.
Its latest tracker survey, which received around 7,000 responses from doctors, found 29% said a mental health condition they had had got worse during the pandemic.
One doctor said: “I feel I have aged over the past three months, with variable levels of anxiety and stress; it’s been a rollercoaster of emotions, whilst trying to run a practice and protect my staff.”
Others described feeling worried about bringing the virus home to their families and feeling frequently tearful about those who have lost their lives.
“It’s difficult to get over watching people slip away without physical contact with their loved ones… it’s painful. Saying that we tried our best when you know the best won’t be good enough is excruciating,” said one respondent.
The BMA’s wellbeing support services had seen a 40% increase in use over the past three months, including from those who felt anxious about facing unknown situations at work.
The organisation has called for more mental health and wellbeing support for doctors and a long-term strategy that protects and maintains the physical, mental, and emotional wellbeing of the NHS.
“This week has seen a sea-change with doctors coming forward in an outpouring of heart-breaking accounts that lay bare the heavy toll that Covid-19 has had on our mental health and wellbeing,” said Dr David Wrigley, BMA council deputy chair and wellbeing lead.
“Doctors are understandably anxious about their own health and the risks posed to their loved ones. This is exacerbated over concerns that a second peak may be just around the corner.
“Throughout this pandemic doctors and healthcare workers have been painted as heroes – and the efforts that they have gone to in caring for their patients is certainly heroic. But they are not superhuman. They need to feel able to seek help and that help must be readily available.”
Be human and respect these people
Youre not helping the situation by underestimating the disease
Jtibh
Banned
Wife is trauma nurse in western canadas largest hospital.
No one is collapsing no one ia crying. But they got sent home for mandatory vacation cuz since they were waiting for covid patients no one came and they had no work . They turned the whole building into a covid only building. But no patients no work. Now they went back to normal and take on every patient . Before all other patients were turned away.
But go on . Tell your story sure
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AetherMage
Member
I remember back in the days before Covid when nobody ever died and we all lived forever. If everyone would just give up their freedoms, their income and their common sense we could get back to that utopia. Trust the experts, they are never wrong. Trust the media, they never lie. Trust the government, they are always there to help. A little more fear, panic & hysteria and we'll all be 100% safe.
Airbus Jr
Banned
You live in Canada a small country the size population of potatoes
Try telling that story to healthworkers in US, Brazil, Iran, India who got the most impact from this pandemic
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it was turned into a partisan issue by American republicans.
Dr_Salt
Banned
Why do you assume I live in the same country as you you moron? Yes it happened idgaf if you tell yourself this is a hoax to sleep better at night.
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Jtibh
Banned
Second largest country in the world you call a small country??
Where the population lives in a total of half a dozen cities each in the millions?
Yet we have to be shut down the same way as countries that have it way worse then we would ever have here?
You sayd to flaten the curve yet 6 months later nothing changed though they destroyed millions of lives by taking their jobs away, domestic violance at all time high children abused women beaten and raped the list is long.
Yep all this is worth it . Yep. How many are unemployed in the states vs sick from the virus or in hospital?
Do the math.
Stiflers Mom
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You need your circumsized dicks clean, while we appreciate and praise our smegma production facilities..
Reptars Revenge
Member
Going to take a bath tonight for the thrill, pray for me
notseqi
Gold Member
I don't care what you believe, there's correlation there, while correlation isn't causation the people arguing lockdowns WORK don't even have correlation for their argument.
Coronavirus Hits Peru Hard Despite Strict Lockdown
Peru implemented one of the Western Hemisphere’s strictest lockdowns to slow the coronavirus pandemic. But the country is now grappling with Latin America’s worst outbreak outside of Brazil.www.wsj.com
Of course you don't care, you already seem a little unhinged about measures you yourself would apply when hit by the flu. Why is every country that has successfully applied lockdown-type measures gone back to those measures after infection rates spiked when letting people back out?
And you do know what kind of country Peru is, yes?
Coronavirus: What's happening in Peru?
Peru has one of the highest case totals and excess death rates in the world - but why?
www.bbc.com
MisterFalcon
Member
(covid denier mode on)
Yes, the bath lobby is bribing the hospitals to hide the true causes of death. And the democrats and MSM are in on it to hurt Trump.
carlosrox
Banned
Please tell me what other loony conspiracy theories I believe in since apparently people like me "think everything is a conspiracy".
Where's the crazy theory in thinking this thing is a lot more bark than bite?
That the media and mega corps are overselling COVID?
Is it really that controversial? Jesus.
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