The Hamburglar
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Gaf has a large pro trump population. Trump went from being a Covid denier to telling people to try bleach. It’s not hard to see Why people here are still trying to downplay it.
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COVID 1 in a million chance of death; as risky as taking a bath expert
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Kev Kev
Member
no
its time for those people to start taking care of themselves. and if that means they have to stay home, then that's what they will have to do.
the rest of the world is going back to normal very soon, so people who are worried need to stop crying about it and start figuring what they are going to do to protect themselves.
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notseqi
Member
110 is stupid and the engines are even stupididder. I regularly avoided one country with 3 hours of driving at 100-120km/h and took the 100km longer route with just 1 hour of 100km/h. I can't imagine doing 110 for 8 hours.
In regards to the engines, my last company car was a 2 Liter Diesel and comfortably did 245, I don't get the big V6+.
LisaMariaMartin
Banned
Expert says Covid 'as dangerous as having a bath' after calculating death risk
Economist Tim Harford crunched the numbers collated by the Office of National Statistics and concluded the threat of Covid-19 in England currently "seems modest, for now"www.mirror.co.uk
Time to end baths NOW. If you take a bath you are a grandma killer.
Are you retarded?
Kenpachii
Member
How can covid be a 1 million chance to die, when in my country of 18 million people, 6243 died from it.
Then about the flu.
We have 400.000 people getting the flu, only 2900 die from it
We have 74.000 corona patients and 6200 total deaths.
Also lots of people experience symptoms that are not death, like having problems breathing through damaged lungs or no smell or taste etc. It's not just death that occurs.
Yet another reason for people to laugh at those "experts".
Then about the flu.
We have 400.000 people getting the flu, only 2900 die from it
We have 74.000 corona patients and 6200 total deaths.
Also lots of people experience symptoms that are not death, like having problems breathing through damaged lungs or no smell or taste etc. It's not just death that occurs.
Yet another reason for people to laugh at those "experts".
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Maxwell Jacob Friedman
leads to fear. Fear leads to xbox.
The world is back to normal where I am except we are courteous enough to socially distance and wear masks. Why should other people be restricted on their daily routine because people are inept to do so. People shouldnt be punished for simply being old or have preexisting conditions they cant control such as auto immune diseases.
im glad business and major corporations are invoking mask policy and kicking said people out who dont comply, fuck'em
ripeavocado
Banned
Studies show that the avg rate is about 2% considering the full population.
It's a LOT if the virus is let to spread like a flu, Hospitals will be overwhelmed and more people will die because of the lack of intensive care beds.
Plus even if you don't die, you may have lifelong issues even if you are young.
Are we still talking about this? C'mon people, man up, the virus is not ebola but is still dangerous, take those simple precautions and be patient not a patient.
It's a LOT if the virus is let to spread like a flu, Hospitals will be overwhelmed and more people will die because of the lack of intensive care beds.
Plus even if you don't die, you may have lifelong issues even if you are young.
Are we still talking about this? C'mon people, man up, the virus is not ebola but is still dangerous, take those simple precautions and be patient not a patient.
poppabk
Cheeks Spread for Digital Only Future
If you are in the US your chances of dying from Ebola are 1 in 54 billion. It's less dangerous than sitting on a couch and watching one episode of law and order.
At least using this 'experts' methodology.
DeepBreath87
Banned
Spare us the bumperstickers. Please.
Depending on where you live and your lifestyle, these are not simple precautions. Unless you’re a high profile Democrat, you can’t get a haircut in California. Or go to church. Those are big deals to people. You can’t eat inside restaurants many places and the weather will be turning cold in a month. These businesses are all going to close permanently when that happens. Many people’s kids are not in school, forcing them to pay for child care or quit their jobs. Many people haven’t been able to see their family members for six months because they aren’t allowed outside their nursing homes. People are dying from other causes while isolated for the last six months of their lives.
This virus is dangerous and frightening. Especially to the elderly and the chronically sick. That doesn’t mean it’s effects have not been exaggerated.
Bumpersticker slogans and downplaying the measures being forced on people doesn’t make anything better.
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MetalAlien
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it is a left conspiracy. Those death numbers are so overblown. Die from a car crash, gun shot, hell slip in the bath tub, oh probably died from the rona.
raduque
Member
Eh, I've done 70 mph (about 110kph) for way longer than 8 hours.
My gf made maple bacon for breakfast this morning. If I couldn't wake up to the smell of bacon anymore, I might as well be dead!
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Paps Guattro
Member
European here, can confirm 100% truism.
notseqi
Member
(((hey, shhh... do you know what a Canyon is?)))
Jtibh
Banned
Its to make you feel like superman when you speed up to 50 in 2 seconds in the city
poppabk
Cheeks Spread for Digital Only Future
Except the excess deaths so far this year (ie actual deaths this year minus the predicted average deaths) are roughly 200,000.
That's a 160,000 extra gun shot deaths above the norm - ok you've convinced me - it is time to start restricting gun ownership.
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Jtibh
Banned
Oh you didnt you
how dare you pointing out the obvious...
Jtibh
Banned
Every time i drive down to san diego i swear the city built 10 high rises by the time i get there.
Thank god for intelligent cruize control and lane correction.
I would by a tesla for the autopilot alone but would have to stop soo many times to recharge it would double my trip time
poppabk
Cheeks Spread for Digital Only Future
The S&P is up from February when all this started, so I would imagine they are fine?
MetalAlien
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cryptoadam
Banned
Take the vitamin D
NinjaBoiX
Member
Precisely.
It’s one thing to quell people’s concerns as long as it doesn’t result in complacency to a very real threat.
And realistically the threat isn’t so much of death, as much as it’s the threat of financial ruin for a lot of folk.
Don’t be scared to leave your house, but also don’t be an absent minded dick that cares only for your own personal well-being.
Jtibh
Banned
Vitamin c and d since january when i decided to take action.
Combined with healty diet and excercise you are set for life.
But hey blame covid for your diabetis and fat belly not the shit you eat right?
G-Bus
Banned
Doesn't more transmission give the virus more opportunities to mutate? potentially making it more dangerous the more it spreads?
I honestly dont mind the face mask. Businesses are actually clean. Fucking line cooks are wearing masks which is awesome in my mind. The basket at the grocery store? Clean. Holy fuck I can't believe it.
So yea, Id agree that this covid thing has been blown out of proportion but I'll be damned if I'm not liking some of the stuff that goes with it.
I honestly dont mind the face mask. Businesses are actually clean. Fucking line cooks are wearing masks which is awesome in my mind. The basket at the grocery store? Clean. Holy fuck I can't believe it.
So yea, Id agree that this covid thing has been blown out of proportion but I'll be damned if I'm not liking some of the stuff that goes with it.
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cryptoadam
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Keihart
Member
I read a long time ago that vitamin D it's important in fighting any respiratory infection, it makes sense to me.
cryptoadam
Banned
Imagine if the D turns out to be the big difference.
Vitamin D is cheap as shit and plentiful.
I am pretty sure no one talked about it because it brings up some issues about certain people being deficient due to the color of their skin.
Vitamin D is cheap as shit and plentiful.
I am pretty sure no one talked about it because it brings up some issues about certain people being deficient due to the color of their skin.
Jtibh
Banned
throwing some of that shade are we
Kev Kev
Member
those people need to stay home. they can have friends, family, neighbors or the plethora of delivery services we have these days help them with their day to day stuff, but they absolutely should not be out in public.
those people need to be on lockdown, they shouldnt even be out in public now ATM. and if thats the case, then the rest of us should be able to take our masks off!
unsure if your high risk or not? THEN STAY THE FUCK HOME
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notseqi
Member
Vitamin prices will be highly regulated by Big D.
#Phonepunk#
Banned
my sister in law is an EMT and is on the front lines and still hates the fucking mask shit. i never see her with one on when she is not at work.
almost like you can think one thing and another thing at the same time.
IMAGINE THAT!!! NUANCE!!!!
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Explosive Zombie
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Of course you don't care, you already seem a little unhinged about measures you yourself would apply when hit by the flu. Why is every country that has successfully applied lockdown-type measures gone back to those measures after infection rates spiked when letting people back out?
And you do know what kind of country Peru is, yes?
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Coronavirus: What's happening in Peru?
Peru has one of the highest case totals and excess death rates in the world - but why?www.bbc.com
A country with a strict lockdown that didn't work, just like the other 7 countries with the highest deaths per million that you are ignoring. Wait, what measures would I apply when hit by the flu? I'd walk around with a mask on while asymptomatic? What? If the solution is just lockdown forever then LOL, what do we learn from Sweden or South Korea? Clearly nothing. I have to assume the countries returning to lockdowns when they spike are doubling down on ineffective stupidity because they have no other answer.
notseqi
Member
I don't even know what you are talking about. Are you american?
My simple and frankly stupid reply to your stance would be 'how many WTCs do you want to sacrifice?'. Is that something that would bother you? Something really easy to repel? Try a real lockdown and see if you do a bit better than you are doing now. The world doesn't revolve around you.
thicc_girls_are_teh_best
Member
So does that include only the 6% of deaths actually caused by COVID-19, or the 94% of deaths caused OF COVID-19 but due to the infected having preexisting condition/co-morbidities as per the CDC's own official research has concluded?
Because I for sure would think such a "scary virus" would be responsible for more than simply 6% of total claimed deaths, right? At this point I'm ready to call this shit for what it is: a psyop, that's greatly exaggerated the impact of a slightly more virulent flu strain, particularly among those with underlying conditions before even catching it (or just being generally unhealthy).
My condolences go out to all who have died regardless because of this illness, but the CDC and government greatly exaggerated the response to this and now the economy has been severely damaged. Due to their measures in "stopping" the spread (which conveniently they forgot to implement AT ALL for these "protests", btw), people who were already on the edge ended up losing everything and thus suicide rates increased. This is all on the fault of the CDC, government, and corporations that stupidly over-responded to this flu strain, full stop.
So when are we gonna start seeing protests against those guys for the damages they've caused our economy and livelihoods? Wake me up when that happens, this clown world shit is getting boring.
Because I for sure would think such a "scary virus" would be responsible for more than simply 6% of total claimed deaths, right? At this point I'm ready to call this shit for what it is: a psyop, that's greatly exaggerated the impact of a slightly more virulent flu strain, particularly among those with underlying conditions before even catching it (or just being generally unhealthy).
My condolences go out to all who have died regardless because of this illness, but the CDC and government greatly exaggerated the response to this and now the economy has been severely damaged. Due to their measures in "stopping" the spread (which conveniently they forgot to implement AT ALL for these "protests", btw), people who were already on the edge ended up losing everything and thus suicide rates increased. This is all on the fault of the CDC, government, and corporations that stupidly over-responded to this flu strain, full stop.
So when are we gonna start seeing protests against those guys for the damages they've caused our economy and livelihoods? Wake me up when that happens, this clown world shit is getting boring.
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the fuck are these dumbass comments
Your girlfriend's lucky that bacon can't cook itself.
Man, I'm glad that you didn't write "grannies" there because that's a fetish porn road my imagination doesn't want to go down. At all.
DeepBreath87
Banned
WTCs? The World Trade Center? You’re comparing a the spread contagious disease to a terrorist attack. Did you think that was a good point when you were writing it?
pennythoughts
Member
Today I learned that stage iv lung cancer isn't scary at all because a fraction of less than 1% of the general population dies from it.
CrapSandwich
former Navy SEAL
Japanese are also much healthier weight, on average. It's almost as if our bodies were designed to run on natural foods, be up and active, and not sitting on ass, indoors all day, throwing doritos locos tacos down our gullets while we browse and bicker on stupid forums and then becoming shocked when we have poor health outcomes. It was a recent French study that found only 10% of Covid ICU patients were of a healthy weight. But if you take those two conditions--obesity and vitamin D deficiency, and look at how strong the correlations are with poor Covid outcomes, the obvious thing that emerges is that America needs to step the fuck outside and go for a jog.
diffusionx
Gold Member
It's hilarious that you advocate for endless lockdown and put this sentence in, like I and hundreds of millions of healthy people haven't been "restricted on their daily routine."
I am all for giving a helping hand but by this logic, how much of my life do I have to sacrifice so old and fat people don't get sick with a virus? They started with "15 days to slow the spread"... it's been almost six months with no end in sight. This has taken and is taking a toll on me both physically and mentally. Does this not matter? Does my health and the health of hundreds of millions in my shoes not count? Perspective is badly needed here.
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Jtibh
Banned
Welcome to gaf newbie
poppabk
Cheeks Spread for Digital Only Future
The 6% is the death certificates that only listed Covid as cause of death. Other reasons are things like pneumonia, respiratory failure, cardiac arrest - things caused by Covid and the damage it does to the body or things like hypertension or asthma that make people more susceptible to the worst outcomes.
But yeah in a country where close to 50% of the over 18 population has hypertension a lot of deaths are gonna have co-morbidities.
Duh, it's much lower than that. You only count the death certificates that only list 'lung cancer'. If you die of 'respiratory failure, lung cancer' or 'haemorrage, lung cancer' it's your own fault for having a pre existing condition of respiratory failure or the co-morbidity of drowning in your own blood as you haemorrhage into your lungs.
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