TheFarter
Banned
Sorry you feel that way.
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FunkMiller
Member
QSD
Member
Personally I worry a lot about the bread not stapled to trees. I feel this might be the start of a major rift in society.
Hari Seldon
Member
Do you think that it is possible that English speaking countries are bearing the brunt of the social media manipulation? By manipulation I mean both in terms of the intrinsic manipulation by the algorithm (i.e. the algorithms are tuned best for English speakers), and by foreign powers.
To put it another way, is it possible that America is actually exceptional, i.e. we have to deal with the most fuckery?
12Goblins
Lil’ Gobbie
Excellent discussion among scientists on the origins of the virus,
Mistake
Member
We had one wave of covid. Then we got vaccines. So the question now is, are the vaccines working, or is it simply because many communities have been through the rounds? We were already expected to see a big drop this year
Don’t you think the omission of this information under the guise of causing vaccine hesitancy is something to worry about? How can you be sure it’s such a tiny percentage when we’re not getting the correct information? Both the veritas exposè, and the nurses I’ve spoken with pretty much confirmed things aren’t running as they should be.
Perhaps you shouldn’t quote me if you’re going to down like I’m a goddamn moron
12Goblins
Lil’ Gobbie
Nobody_Important
“Aww, it’s so...average,” she said to him in a cold brick of passion
Who do you know that has been hurt by the vaccine and how were they hurt?
Also the only way those nurses would be fired is if they are refusing to get vaccinated. So that really isn't an argument.
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Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Both. When you analyze the blood from blood donors, you can find antibodies from both natural infections and from vaccines, mostly from vaccines.
We know the vaccines are working, because when you look at who's testing positive for covid, who's getting hospitalized, and who's dying, the vast majority of casualties are unvaccinated people per capita.
We were experiencing a big drop this year and we would have been okay, however the virus mutated in India in December into a much more dangerous delta variant. This variant made its way to the USA in July/August, and is responsible for this current wave because it's so much more contagious than the original strain.
Vicetrailia
Member
I’ve seen antixaxxers write on Facebook “I know a few people who regret taking the vaccine”.
So I asked if they had an allergic reaction.
They said “no”.
Like really, are they so defiant that they have to say some bullshit like people regret taking a shot that they simply get and move forward like any other shot they have had? What to regret?
I don’t get why people turn into fucking liars over a shot.
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DaleinCalgary
Member
Mistake
Member
Don't need to take my word for it. Here's just one example. Louis got moderna, he's fine. Steve got pfizer, he had myocarditis with a heart attack. I advocate informed consent. Not one size fits all mandates
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Dr.Guru of Peru
played the long game
The risk of myocarditis has been studied and characterized for the covid vaccines. It exists but is rare.
The vaccines are working. The proof is in the orders of magnitude lower incidence of infections and hospitalizations amongst those that have been vaccinated. Communities "going through the rounds" would not explain the disparate rates of infection between vaccinated and unvaccinated.
I'm not sure what you think these videos prove to anyone who isn't a "goddamn moron", perhaps you should try explaining yourself better.
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BouncyFrag
Member
As you wish…
funkygunther
Banned
You are using "things aren't running as they should be" as your reason to not have the vaccine but you're not getting into any specifics or making any concrete links between them
What more information to do you need to prove that vaccines work?
clem84
Gold Member
1 in 7.4 American has been infected by Covid 19.
1 in 458 American has died from it.
A year and a half in. These numbers are insane.
www.worldometers.info
1 in 458 American has died from it.
A year and a half in. These numbers are insane.
United States COVID - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer
United States Coronavirus update with statistics and graphs: total and new cases, deaths per day, mortality and recovery rates, current active cases, recoveries, trends and timeline.
www.worldometers.info
They are not, some saw it coming miles away… if there would be no restrictions, they would be insane/ gigantic, it sucks though.1 in 7.4 American has been infected by Covid 19.
1 in 458 American has died from it.
A year and a half in. These numbers are insane.
United States COVID - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer
United States Coronavirus update with statistics and graphs: total and new cases, deaths per day, mortality and recovery rates, current active cases, recoveries, trends and timeline.
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As you wish…
Last measures to turn the dead tide in a country that is divided by opinions ..
Together we stand strong sadly doesn’t apply to the US at this moment in time.
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clem84
Gold Member
Alina Chan's Twitter is a really good one to follow for the latest on this.
FunkMiller
Member
What information is being omitted? Are you claiming information about vaccine adverse effects is being suppressed to prevent vaccine hesitancy? If so, what proof do you have of this?
Thaedolus
Member
Good reason to get boosters
Maiden Voyage
Gold™ Member
SF Kosmo
Al Jazeera Special Reporter
They're all gonna need boosters by a year in though I think I hope we work out the annual pipeline like we do with flu.I am grateful I got the Moderna shot.
I'm coming up on a year in January. I might go get a moderna shot or something if Novavax isn't widely available in the US by then.
Maiden Voyage
Gold™ Member
Is there going to be instructions or guidance given by the CDC anytime soon? I still read that I should be good for now. I got my first dose in April or May.
SF Kosmo
Al Jazeera Special Reporter
"I won't take lectures on freedom from people who want to stand in the way of us opening back up" is a pretty good mic drop, not gonna lie.
I dunno, I am in a weird gray area because I took a vaccine that hasn't been FDA approved at all, because the company decided to focus on WHO filings first to reach less saturated markets.
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RAÏSanÏa
Member
cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/artur-pawlowski-arrested-tarmac-us-tour-convicted-for-contempt
The wheels of justice can be slow, but they do turn. Tried to explain this before when this guy was screaming at the Health Officer. It's not a major infraction what was happening at the church so no need for heavy force at the time to drag people out or arrest the guy then, but there'd be follow up after investigation and review. Sounds like Border Services were acting on a warrant for disobeying a court order, which is what they should do. Just cuz the nut stamps and screams like an upset toddler not wanting to do something they don't want to and plays the nazi card doesn't mean he gets a free pass. lol
AHS seeking three weeks, a fine and legal costs at worst. For disobeying a public health order not exactly heavy justice as the performance of the pastor and supporters might indicate.
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funkygunther
Banned
"pastor arrested" = "criminal arrested"
also Candadian, that's some quality editorial standards there
also Candadian, that's some quality editorial standards there
RAÏSanÏa
Member
The Norway situation is interesting. One of the most heavily restricted countries in the region with the fewest cases and deaths. After a recent election the outgoing government that put in the restrictions is the one that dropped all those restrictions suddenly way on their way out the door. Popular move, maybe could be argued done a little early so the incoming party doesn't get the credit for dropping the restrictions. Cases are going down quickly and about a 1/3rd from their peak in the region 3 weeks ago, but are still high.
Publicly funded broadcaster wouldn't want to give a hint of bias in a politically charged article even when true and directly relevant.
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Mistake
Member
“Both the veritas exposè, and the nurses I’ve spoken with”
I went out and basically confirmed what project veritas put out myself. The nurses are bullshit. Alison Morrow has been covering it as well.
funkygunther
Banned
what is the veritas expose?
and what does that and nurses have to do with the vaccine?
Phunkydiabetic
Banned
Just some interested stats.
The average anti-vaxxer is a liberal, middle-aged Midwestern man
Meet your average American anti-vaxxer.qz.com
Some interesting stats from....2015? That was a very different time in regards to vaccines no? I get that everyone wants to still do the whole "democrats vs republicans" back and forth schtick but surely there is info out there that's a more accurate representation of the current social climate then from an article posted half a decade before covid hit. It's pretty disingenuous.
Jaysen
Banned
In 2015 both the left and right made fun of anti-vaxxers. For good reason, they’re idiots. Only thing that’s changed now is the virus and subsequent vaccines were politicized by even bigger morons. And thus a new breed of even more pathetic anti-vaxxer was born.
MisterFalcon
Member
Portugal had an absolutely insane death spike early this year, the equivalent of 10 thousand deaths per day for a US sized population. That will get people motivated to get vaccinated like nothing else.
With some exceptions of course. Law enforcement, like celebrities and rich Karens seem have a lot of people who simply will not listen to any advice not already in line with their beliefs.
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Maiden Voyage
Gold™ Member
Trust in social media linked to heightened susceptibility to COVID-19 conspiracy theories
Individuals who rely heavily on social media for news, and who trust social media as a source of information, are particularly susceptible to conspiracy theories, according to new research published in the journal Public Understanding of Science.
www.psypost.org
FunkMiller
Member
What‘s the veritas expose?
Do you mean this? https://www.mediamatters.org/projec...ing-project-veritas-video-pushing-coronavirus
The Pleasure
Member
TheFarter
Banned
Karma will get me? LMAO. Some of you are jumping the shark.
Me and my whole family have had covid. We all got over it and now have the antibodies just like anyone who's never had covid and just only had the shot. I wear a mask at work where I need to, and also have no problems with shops or anything at all that require it. I just feel I don't need the shot right now. I've had covid. But karma will get me? Anyone can get the shot if they want. I have no problems with that. I also don't believe that the shots will fuck people up hardcore. Maybe some people get messed up... but majority naw. Much like the flu shot, I don't get that either. Will karma get me for that too? Meh. I welcome a few days off from being sick at times. Saves me vacation time to use!
Karma will get you? You've lost your mind.
funkygunther
Banned
Portsmouth girl, 15, dies of Covid on day she was due jab
Jorja Halliday, from Portsmouth, was due to have her coronavirus vaccination on the day she died.
www.bbc.co.uk
FunkMiller
Member
Portsmouth girl, 15, dies of Covid on day she was due jab
Jorja Halliday, from Portsmouth, was due to have her coronavirus vaccination on the day she died.www.bbc.co.uk
Yeah, this is a really fucking horrible one. And oh, the horrible, horrible irony that she dies of the very thing due to Covid, that the anti-vax brigade keeps saying is caused by the vaccine.
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StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Well, the job risk is working. It wont get everyone to get it, but put their job on the line and look at the results in only a week. Money talks.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Just some more stats to thumb through.
US
www.kff.org
Canada
www.macleans.ca
US
Latest Data on COVID-19 Vaccinations by Race/Ethnicity | KFF
KFF is collecting and analyzing data on COVID-19 vaccinations by race/ethnicity to gain increased insight who is receiving the vaccine and whether some groups are facing disparities in vaccination.
www.kff.org
Canada
Typical 'vaccine hesitant' person is a 42-year-old Ontario woman who votes Liberal: Abacus polling - Macleans.ca
Bruce Anderson: Compared to the vaccinated, the vaccine hesitant don’t have a lot of trust in government. They also try to avoid prescriptions, dislike putting anything unnatural in their bodies and say they are reluctant to take any vaccines. Most worry that COVID-19 vaccines haven’t really...
www.macleans.ca
DaleinCalgary
Member
It's just like the cold, once you get it you have antibodies and will never get it again.
