That's good to here. Vaccines are mandatory for school kids here already.
I'm not talking about YOU specifically unless you tell people to avoid the vaccine and spread misinformation about their safety.
Some doctors genuinely want to help people. So going where the need is greatest is what they do.
The shitty part is many do know that what they’re doing is wrong, but do it any way because they think it’s the popular choice.
“The CDC don’t bother to read science…everything being recommended by the CDC and the state board of health is contrary to the rules of science.”
Consensus support for cigarettes?
Yes we live together in the same house 7 days a week.
No need to quote your own post, we get it, you had sex, congratulations.
Newish here. Didn't mean to do that and also I tried deleting it lol.
Thank you!
So it is HER fault that they died of COVID. Am I understanding your reaction correctly?
Yes…are most school districts there even in session yet? They can’t have been for long if they are.
Assuming this is what you meant, how does "praying daily", according to the articles you referenced from Pew, preclude you from being a skeptic, then?
As an atheist, not at all, because the criticism should of the institutions of religion, not spirituality itself, especially when the US has one of the largest-growing Latino populations in the world, where religion is much more cultivated. And I find it rather ironic that you'd describe it as an "embarrassment", which seems to imply that you have a general intolerance or just downright indignation of other people's spiritual beliefs. That's embarrassing.
Well, judging by your indignant tone and thinly veiled mockery, I'd say you aren't doing yourself or anyone else in those countries any favors.
Who said that? That’s just one of his many failures. You don’t get where Texas is now by doing much of anything right.
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No, my point is that she doesn't get that this was preventable and that her anti-vax position was wrong, even when confronted with the harshest possible wake up call.
I'm looking back through this thread, and I can't help but wonder, what would make a person say something so narrow minded and cold as this? Why are we reducing a persons value and worth to one dumb thing they say now? It reminds me of the people that disown immediate family members because of their political affiliation. We need to stop acting like babies throwing tantrums.
That's not weird just no talks about it. I know of 5 instances where the same thing happened and only one or some people of a household got it. It's not as contagious as everyone likes to believe and I have no clue how mass infections happen.
Cyberpunkd Any truth to this "pass sanitaire, s’il vous plaît?" inspection business? Just a staged video for demonstrative purposes or actually happening?
Are you going to pretend this is only about masks? Right wing leaders and media mocked covid and pushed people to actively pretend it didn’t matter.
One dumb thing they say? They dedicate their lives to encouraging people to avoid the one thing that could save their lives. What’s wrong with you?
Learning how to handle this virus seems to be hard, even after 1,5 years , 3 times is a charm right? Read Texas and Arkansas are also in bad shape .
It’s almost as if the vaccines are working and the scientists were right. I’m shocked.Utah is handling data collection and dissemination very well. There's a very clear difference between the vaccinated and unvaccinated populations and you can see it change over time.
As of July, I think Delta was around 80% prevalent IIRC.
Whodathunk it, amirite?
www.medrxiv.org
That’s quite significant. Hopefully anyone here that spread lies that vaccines don’t reduce spread will change their minds and get vaccinated.Additional information from Singapore, comparing viral loads over time among both vaccinated and unvaccinated people. It confirms that in the beginning, viral loads are indeed similar, but over time, the vaccinated people eliminate their viral loads at a much faster pace, which would explain the high protective effect against hospitalization and death. (not yet peer reviewed)
Virological and serological kinetics of SARS-CoV-2 Delta variant vaccine-breakthrough infections: a multi-center cohort study
Objectives Highly effective vaccines against severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) have been developed but variants of concerns (VOCs) with mutations in the spike protein are worrisome, especially B.1.617.2 (Delta) which has rapidly spread across the world. We aim to study...
Virologic kinetics
Serial Ct values of individuals were analyzed as a surrogate marker for the viral load. The initial median initial Ct value did not differ between unvaccinated and fully vaccinated patients (unvaccinated median Ct 18.8 (14.9-22.7), vaccinated 19.2 (15.2-22.2), p=0.929). However, fully vaccinated patients had a faster rate of increase in Ct value over time compared with unvaccinated individuals, suggesting faster viral load decline (coefficient estimates for interaction terms ranged from 9.12 (standard error 3.75) to 12.06 (standard error 3.03); p-value <0.05 for each interaction terms) (Figure 1).
In this study, we found that fully vaccinated patients had significantly lower odds of moderate or severe outcomes following infection by the SARS-CoV-2 VOC B.1.617.2. Vaccination was associated with lower peak measures of systemic inflammation, fewer symptoms, including more asymptomatic infection, and better clinical outcomes. Notably, in contrast to existing studies that showed lower viral load in vaccinated patients [22], initial viral load indicated by PCR Ct values was similar between vaccinated and unvaccinated patients with B.1.617.2. However, vaccinated patients appeared to clear viral load at a faster rate. Our serologic data suggest an early rapid rise in neutralizing and binding antibodies indicated by C-Pass and Roche anti-S antibodies, which may be evidence of memory immunity to COVID-19 vaccination on challenge with a breakthrough infection with B.1.617.2.
The finding of diminished severity with B.1.617.2 infection in vaccinated individuals is reassuring and corroborates emerging data from the United Kingdom which have found that mRNA vaccination remains protective against symptomatic and severe disease[12, 23]. An observational cohort study conducted in Scotland suggested that ≥14 days after the second dose, BNT162b2 vaccine offered 92% vaccine effectiveness against presumptive non-B.1.617.2 infection and 79% protection against presumptive B.1.617.2 [24]. Protection associated with the ChAdOx1 nCoV-19 vaccine was 73% and 60% respectively. Although vaccine-breakthrough infections are increasingly reported, with the largest series to date in the United States reporting 10,262 breakthrough infections, a majority of these were mild (27% asymptomatic, 10% hospitalization, 2% mortality)[25]. Vaccine-breakthrough infections will continue to be observed, especially with genetic drift and selection pressures resulting in emergence of newer VOCs; however, it is likely that there will be a shift toward milder disease spectrum with more widespread implementation of vaccination programs.
Conclusion
mRNA vaccines against COVID-19 are protective against symptomatic infection and severe disease by the B.1.617.2 variant. Vaccinated individuals had a more rapid decline in viral load, which has implications on secondary transmission and public health policy. Rapid and widespread implementation of vaccination programs remains a key strategy for control of COVID-19 pandemic. Further studies should elucidate immunologic features driving vaccine-breakthrough infection to improve vaccine-induced protection.
No one thinks it’s normal, just like hospitals being full in the US isn’t normal.
It's this, empty streets as everything is closed or people stacked three high in hospital corridors. There is no miracle option to make covid go away and have everything be as it was, no matter what horse worm medicine they push.
Dont worry, you really are only at risk if you are over 50. At 28, it is like 0.1% death rate. She has to be really unlucky to die. She needs multiple comorbidities to be in any real danger.
She is a lot more healthy than me. I am also unvaxxed. I vape quite a bit and have really bad diet. I am also on a few meds that lower my immune system just a bit. So I am trying my best not to catch it.
Are you unable to get vaccinated because of your meds?
If you and your son have somewhere you can stay for a week or more while she rides it out, that would help. Just make sure that if you're staying at someone else's place, you're sure you're not infected since you don't want to bring it to someone else's home.
