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[Schopenhauerian]

In light of the recent, problematic statement from someone at Naughty Dog (specifically, the Creative Director for the upcoming Uncharted: The Lost Legacy), I'd like to commend CDPR for taking the following initiative, with respect to Cyberpunk 2077:

CDPR has posted some new positions on their website, among them:

Cultural and Linguistic Consultant

This individual will play a part in designing the cultural/linguistic aspects of the game world. They will also be called upon to provide various references and source materials/knowledge about the melting pot that is American culture (California in particular) to be used in game design, implementation and dialogue writing

Working closely with the Story, Quest and Localization teams to catch cultural misconceptions and errors.
Providing various references to the melting pot that is American culture (California in particular) to be used in game design, implementation and dialogue writing.
Deep understanding of American society and culture.

Clearly, they want the world of the Cyberpunk 2077 to be as accurate in its depiction of the American society as possible. This was one of the worries that people have expressed before - whether or not a Polish dev will be able to catch the nuance.

https://www.cdprojekt.com/en/careers/jobs/cultural-and-linguistic-consultant/

Hopefully Naughty Dog will take a similar step, and soon:

https://failbluedot.com/indiana-jones-racist-sexist
...Note that, a lot of the problems would have been pretty easy to fix if they cared enough to spend 0.5% of the budget on a consultant. Then what made the movie memorable (the darkness and tension, the inventive action scenes) would stand the test of time better. The idea that the stereotypes were somehow necessary to make it a success imply that there isn’t enough creativity out there to work a few more constraints into the million other constraints people already face when creating movies. Which should offend movie-goers and movie-makers alike...

I have really always disliked the melting pot analogy. I have always felt more like it was a food processor or some sort of industrial process like a centrifuge - separating out everything and distilling disparates cultures to their most obvious / simplistic characteristics and stereotypes.

Hence why there are things like St. Patrick's Day or the idea that "italians (when they really mean 3rd or 4th generation people who happened to once have italian heritage) talk loudly."

It’s certainly worth thinking critically about this particular analogy, and its use by CDPR in the job description. I think we can still say, though, that the initiative (to hire a ‘Cultural and Linguistic Consultant’) by CDPR is praiseworthy: whatever shortcomings (i.e., “cultural misconceptions and errors”) exist within the job description itself become less likely to leak into the game, if the competent Consultant that they seek (“...deep understanding of American culture...”) is given sufficient input.

In the case of Naughty Dog, however, I’m less confident that a sufficiently competent Cultural Consultant has been hired and/or given sufficient input, given the distinct type of statement (more unambiguously derogatory than 'melting pot') that was made by the Creative Director, and given the fact that it was made so close the game’s release; but I am of course hoping there is still time for Naughty Dog to make the appropriate hire/adjustment.

 

[Robot Pants]

City is called
Dark City

More than 3 radio stations

 

[Screaming Meat]

City is called
Dark City

More than 3 radio stations

Night City, isn't it?

 

[Robot Pants]

Night City, isn't it?

I was told Dark city but night city is possible I suppose

 

[Discotheque]

- it will be game of the gen.

 

[jettpack]

Apparently someone posted this video/gif in a comment section on a tech article about Cyberpunk

No one is claiming that this is Cyberpunk but I hope the art direction is similar to this

https://gfycat.com/WelldocumentedKnobbyKookaburra

So if this isn't cyberpunk 2077 then do we know where this gif came from?

 

[Gamezone]

Should we expect gameplay at E3?

 

[Carn82]

So if this isn't cyberpunk 2077 then do we know where this gif came from?

... it's posted below the post you quoted.

 

[Screaming Meat]

I was told Dark city but night city is possible I suppose

Oh really? I'm just going off of the RPG.

So if this isn't cyberpunk 2077 then do we know where this gif came from?

UE4 Tech demo. Looks amazing though.

 

[wetflame]

Everything I've seen about the game so far I've felt really positive about. I've just recently started playing Witcher 3 after the recommendations on the story I've seen on GAF and elsewhere, and if they can transfer that level of craft into a Sci-Fi setting I am 100% on board. I love that genre, and this setting specifically, so I'm looking forward to a game where I can really dig deep into the story knowing there's been a lot of thought put into the quests and world.

 

[Hakkelus]

If the game has the Bladerunner vibe to it, I'm going to play it even if it sucks otherwise.

 

[RedlineRonin]

Everything I've seen about the game so far I've felt really positive about. I've just recently started playing Witcher 3 after the recommendations on the story I've seen on GAF and elsewhere, and if they can transfer that level of craft into a Sci-Fi setting I am 100% on board. I love that genre, and this setting specifically, so I'm looking forward to a game where I can really dig deep into the story knowing there's been a lot of thought put into the quests and world.

100% agree. I think there are a lot of good points above too about the "cultural fit" of recreating the world. As I said on the previous page, I just finished W3 and the first expansion; working through Blood and Wine now.

Part of what I think CDPR does very well in their unique take on "medieval fantasy" is done with boat loads of lore. It's around the edges of every single part of that game, from little details liking hearing random conversations that add context to the world, to all the in game books/letters that add lots of flavor and detail. Whether it was through detail from the original books (I didn't read them) or a lot of research, they absolutely nailed the feel and vibe of Velen, Novigrad, Skellige and definitely Toussant.

This is maybe my second biggest concern behind the blank slate thing i mentioned earlier. And maybe concern is even the wrong word, but I think it seems like a daunting task to try to recreate all of that in a dystopic metropolis type area. The vibe and setting is so very different from W3. It's one thing to have great environment artists that can model a 3D world that looks great (and I have no doubt it will) but it's a separate task entirely to be able to stuff that world to the brim with the kind of lore and detail that makes it feel "real" and "lived in."

That being said, CDPR is probably best equipped to do it. And the other thing that gives me a lot of confidence is both their willingness to delay W3 until it was done, and the bit at the end of that first CP2077 teaser. "Coming......when it's ready." They won't release it until their ready. The wait might suck, but it'll be worth it.

 

[Magic Mushroom]

Should we expect gameplay at E3?

I believe in it myself, but it's certainly not guaranteed.

 

[MadYarpen]

I will be happy if we get anything more substantial than concepts or another CGI teaser.

 

[cackhyena]

Dark City is a hilariously bad name.

 

[DOWN]

Dark City is a hilariously bad name.

City is called
Dark City

More than 3 radio stations

It's Night City

 

[cackhyena]

It's Night City

That's not leagues better...but I guess it's better.

 

[DOWN]

That's not leagues better...but I guess it's better.

I think it's great. Very classic noir fiction.

 

[Skab]

That's not leagues better...but I guess it's better.

Considering the type of city it is, it's fine.

 

[Fluffhead14]

I believe in it myself, but it's certainly not guaranteed.

I don't pretend to know anything about game development, but wouldn't it be impossible to imagine this getting in our hands even by late 2018 if there's no gameplay at E3?

there's gotta be some gameplay.

predicting a 11/18 release, followed by a delay, 2/19 we'll be playing*

*taken with a large grain of salt.

 

[DOWN]

I expect an in engine e3 trailer and a May 2018 release optimistically

 

[Rygar 8 Bit]

Should we expect gameplay at E3?

betting its reveal e3 2018 and released late 2019 early 2020

 

[DOWN]

betting its reveal e3 2018 and released late 2019 early 2020

No way is there going to be 5 years between the Witcher 3 and this game at the rate they're moving

 

[adj_noun]

I really want to hear about whether or not the Cyberpunk class system will be in place. Some of those sound really cool.

 

[DirtyCase]

I really want to hear about whether or not the Cyberpunk class system will be in place. Some of those sound really cool.

Yeah I'm interested to know this as well. I started running a tabletop Cyberpunk 2020 game a few years ago with some friends and found the class systems to be somewhat cliché and mostly restrictive. One Solo (ninja) will be virtually the same as the next save for personality, same goes for the other classes. I found a guide online about removing the class systems and making it purely about skills and player agency and we found it opened up a lot more options. For example a player could still be a Corporate who happened to study medicine at college, as well as not restricting the net to only net runners.

I changed a few other things like pushing the timeline back to 2045 and updating some mechanics regarding wireless technologies. There was something like a 20 perecent chance to lose your connection to the net if you were moving in a car which just seems rediculous even now.

Well with the Deus Ex franchise on hiatus, this seems to be the only ambitious single player cyberpunk game in development. I cannot wait.

 

[BiGBoSSMk23]

Spoiler

Ciri

better have a cameo on this otherwise that entire line of dialogue in the hut will rank highest among the biggest cockteases in gaming.

A subplot with supernatural undertones with

Spoiler

Ciri

, please, CDPR!

Or at least a side quest, that'd do.

 

[Feel_The_Pain]

E3 Cyberpunk 2077 Scorpio exclusive released in november.

Spoiler

dreaming

 

[Speely]

Yeah I'm interested to know this as well. I started running a tabletop Cyberpunk 2020 game a few years ago with some friends and found the class systems to be somewhat cliché and mostly restrictive. One Solo (ninja) will be virtually the same as the next save for personality, same goes for the other classes. I found a guide online about removing the class systems and making it purely about skills and player agency and we found it opened up a lot more options. For example a player could still be a Corporate who happened to study medicine at college, as well as not restricting the net to only net runners.

I changed a few other things like pushing the timeline back to 2045 and updating some mechanics regarding wireless technologies. There was something like a 20 perecent chance to lose your connection to the net if you were moving in a car which just seems rediculous even now.

Well with the Deus Ex franchise on hiatus, this seems to be the only ambitious single player cyberpunk game in development. I cannot wait.

100% agreed. I've played and run a ton of Cyberpunk 2020 campaigns, and the class system/rules are not it's strong point. The setting is. I hope CDPR adapts it well to a video game format. I've nor tried the variant you described, but it sounds like a step in the right direction.

 

[Obliterator]

E3 Cyberpunk 2077 Scorpio exclusive released in november.

Spoiler

dreaming

No way its Scorpio exclusive, Witcher 3 sold better on PS4 for example.

That said I fully expect the real reveal of this game to be the Scorpio version at MS E3 this year

 

[MadYarpen]

No way its Scorpio exclusive, Witcher 3 sold better on PS4 for example.

That said I fully expect the real reveal of this game to be the Scorpio version at MS E3 this year

Reveal this year would be awesome. Surely they can show something?

 

[Hierophant]

Is there a primer on lore I should read or anything like that? I know it takes place a while into the future since the original tabletop but anything lore that I can read or watch?

 

[amar212]

E3 Cyberpunk 2077 Scorpio exclusive released in november.

Spoiler

dreaming

Why would you dream such exclusivity?

 

[Dead Man]

E3 Cyberpunk 2077 Scorpio exclusive released in november.

Spoiler

dreaming

Why do you want that?

 

[mlclmtckr]

E3 Cyberpunk 2077 Scorpio exclusive released in november.

Spoiler

dreaming

I mean it's definitely coming to PC so

 

[Mercador]

Is there a primer on lore I should read or anything like that? I know it takes place a while into the future since the original tabletop but anything lore that I can read or watch?

Well, Cyberpunk 2020 for sure. Lot of lore in the game book.

 

[Maligna]

Is there a primer on lore I should read or anything like that? I know it takes place a while into the future since the original tabletop but anything lore that I can read or watch?

Yes, read the Cyberpunk 2020 RPG core book.

PM me if you have trouble finding a copy.

 

[Magic Mushroom]

Spoiler

Ciri

better have a cameo on this otherwise that entire line of dialogue in the hut will rank highest among the biggest cockteases in gaming.

A subplot with supernatural undertones with

Spoiler

Ciri

, please, CDPR!

Or at least a side quest, that'd do.

I hope not. Keep the supernatural out of my cyberpunk.

 

[martino]

On paper so muc rpg thing ...far from all recent checklisting. hope it will deliver.

[*]CGI trailer graphics represent the target for the actual game

traduction for gaf : not sure and no promise this will be end result.but they wish for it

 

[V1LÆM]

Spoiler

Ciri

better have a cameo on this otherwise that entire line of dialogue in the hut will rank highest among the biggest cockteases in gaming.

A subplot with supernatural undertones with

Spoiler

Ciri

, please, CDPR!

Or at least a side quest, that'd do.

i want them to do this! even if it's just a short side quest or hidden easter egg.

 

[Švejk]

Can't wait to play this next year!

 

[Hierophant]

anyone else not upgrading until this comes out?

i know thats like deffo a bunch of years but i wanna play this at the highest fidelity

 

[DemWalls]

anyone else not upgrading until this comes out?

i know thats like deffo a bunch of years but i wanna play this at the highest fidelity

Was my intention too, but recently Mankind Divided has proved to be too tough for my ageing rig, so... I think I'll just get a "minor" upgrade for now (say, a 480) and when this comes out I'll go for the highest end.

 

[His Majesty]

anyone else not upgrading until this comes out?

i know thats like deffo a bunch of years but i wanna play this at the highest fidelity

me

my GTX 770 is still performing relatively well in 1080p but I would love to play Cyberpunk in all its splendor

 

[Shredderi]

Should we expect gameplay at E3?

I mean it would make sense in our minds, wouldn't it? I don't think we'll see it at all this year. I think they're mostly ready to show it but are debating whether they should show it yet and ultimately will pussy out in fears of having to delay the game and don't want to show it potentially too early.

Spoiler

I'm trying reverse psychology here

 

[Flipyap]

Spoiler

Ciri

better have a cameo on this otherwise that entire line of dialogue in the hut will rank highest among the biggest cockteases in gaming.

A subplot with supernatural undertones with

Spoiler

Ciri

, please, CDPR!

Or at least a side quest, that'd do.

Absolutely not. This isn't a CD Projekt Cinematic Universe, they make licensed games. That's like asking EA to put Gandalf in one of their Star Wars games. Yeah, they probably could do that, but holy crap, they really shouldn't.

I'd be fine with an unnamed grey-haired girl popping up in the background somewhere to satisfy those cravings, but overt references really don't belong here.

 

[Patterbits]

YouTuber YongYea made a nearly hour long video with all known information about Cyberpunk 2077 so far if anyone wants to check it out.

 

[Budi]

YouTuber YongYea made a nearly hour long video with all known information about Cyberpunk 2077 so far if anyone wants to check it out.

Huh thanks for sharing this, didn't see this thread pop up earlier. But I was just thirsty for new info so I looked this thread up by a chance.

 

[selo]

Might we see something a @E3? Not very likely, but I certainly hope so

 

[Magic Mushroom]

Might we see something a @E3? Not very likely, but I certainly hope so

Not likely. Apparently they started from scratch last year.

 

[DOWN]

Not likely. Apparently they started from scratch last year.

Source? They said they transitioned to full production after Blood & Wine, but they've been in development since Witcher 3 base game launched iirc