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[BTA]

To be fair, the anime never made any attempt to portray Ruruka as reasonable. She was a villain, through-and-through. She was the Celeste/Mikan of the game, the mid-story antagonist.

The real problem is Izayoi. I think he's the worst character in the series. He does nothing, he has barely any interesting qualities - the only interesting thing he has said or done is say "dewicious" as an adult - he's basically a tool for Ruruka to manipulate. He's boring, and his "I still love you even though you killed me" thing isn't interesting. How neat would it have been if it turned out that he, since childhood, was her slave, and that he actually hated her? That could have been a cool twist. Perhaps her candy wore off, and Izayoi tried to kill her - making her still be a shitty person for having drugged him, but also being justified in defending herself.

I agree that Izayoi's not much better, but...

Celeste was intentionally goofy, though! I don't really see how that situation can be compared to this; even Mikan's case was better handled. Here there's multiple episodes spent on their backstory, with the show seriously/dramatically trying to say something about trust and being used and so on and... it's completely hard to take any of it seriously because it just boils down to "fuck you, eat this candy even if it kills you because ???". She's nowhere near being a character I'd call a "villain"- she's just the not important bully of a not important character and it all served only to waste time.

 

[ScherzoPrime]

Yeah my reading of Celeste is she she was a charlatan who bullshitted her way into making people think she was way more competent than she actually was.

I do think I've come to terms with what DR3 is though, to a certain extent at least. Despair seems to become more about the arbitrary imposition on people, whether it be Hope's Peak or Junko's brainwashing. Obviously that doesn't really do right by those characters, but we're kind of past the point of that mattering.

 

[Ludger Kresnik]

EDIT: Are we really using "NG Code" in here? C'mon guys. We can be better than that.

True, we've seen on screen now that it's NG行動 or NG Koudou or NG Action or No Good Action or Forbidden Action, as Funi has been translating it all along. NG Code is shroter to write, tho.

To be fair, the anime never made any attempt to portray Ruruka as reasonable. She was a villain, through-and-through. She was the Celeste/Mikan of the game, the mid-story antagonist.

The real problem is Izayoi. I think he's the worst character in the series. He does nothing, he has barely any interesting qualities - the only interesting thing he has said or done is say "dewicious" as an adult - he's basically a tool for Ruruka to manipulate. He's boring, and his "I still love you even though you killed me" thing isn't interesting. How neat would it have been if it turned out that he, since childhood, was her slave, and that he actually hated her? That could have been a cool twist. Perhaps her candy wore off, and Izayoi tried to kill her - making her still be a shitty person for having drugged him, but also being justified in defending herself.

Don't be comparing Ruruka to Celeste or Mikan, she's way worse written than either of those. Especially Celeste, who was actually a lot of fun. I agree on Izayoi, though. He got way more screentime than the likes of Bandai or Gozu but ended up mattering even less than they did.

 

[Taruranto]

Yeah, Celeste is great, Mikan is... the worst culprit in DR2 because 2-3 is kinda meh and her execution was a mess, but overall she did have an interesting side, especially regarding her relationship with Junko. (Before DR3 Despair just made her a brainwashed idiot)

Ruruka is just a stupid character.

 

[MetroidPrimeRib]

Celeste got done dirty. Her plan was shit (but her motive is the best) and she got killed right when she was getting more interesting.

 

[Ludger Kresnik]

Celeste got done dirty. Her plan was shit (but her motive is the best) and she got killed right when she was getting more interesting.

A recurring theme throughout the series.

 

[MetroidPrimeRib]

A recurring theme throughout the series.

I think the ones that actually sting for obvious reasons are Taka, Hiyoko and Celeste. There was more too them. Fucking 3rd cases.

Some people are just made to die like Ibuki, Hifumi and Teruteru who are pretty much joke characters.

But I feel like most people get a good arc and sendoff when they die. Sakura, Gundham, Chiaki, Peko, Nagito. 2nd game was better at it.

 

[Shufel]

Ibuki was the only death in DR2 that pissed me off. She deserved better.

 

[sackboy2197]

Ibuki was the only death in DR2 that pissed me off. She deserved better.

Ibuki remains the best together with Gundham. Two great characters who died too early.

 

[Shufel]

Gundham at least went out in a good way. Ibuki was just killed off thanks to some despair disease nonsense.

I mean, I know she was mostly just a comic relief character but she was a better one than Soda or Akane and far more likable.

 

[Brazil]

Ibuki remains the best together with Gundham. Two great characters who died too early.

They're both alive. There's still time to ruin them.

 

[sackboy2197]

Gundham at least went out in a good way. Ibuki was just killed off thanks to some despair disease nonsense.

That's true, I do appreciate the way it happened at least, as far as Gundham is concerned.

They're both alive. There's still time to ruin them.

I mean, we could have said that before DR3 started airing, but with so little time I don't think they'll be able to do much with them.

 

[A Link to the Past]

I was talking more about the role of the character rather than the quality. Like Celeste, Ruruka was never really propped up as likable at any point in the story, and seemed like she would be the kind of person who would kill. Mikan's different since there wasn't really a way for us to tell that it would happen, but essentially Ruruka served as the "Case 03 mini-boss" (I wonder if DRV3 will keep up this trend?).

 

[Permanently A]

You could literally remove Ibuki from the entire franchise and absolutely nothing would change.

 

[Ludger Kresnik]

You could literally remove Ibuki from the entire franchise and absolutely nothing would change.

We wouldn't have I Squeezed Out The Baby But I Have No Idea Who The Father Is, and I think that'd be a great loss to SDR2.

 

[A Link to the Past]

You could literally remove Ibuki from the entire franchise and absolutely nothing would change.

Same with Ibuki trash talkers like you

guitar

 

[h0tp0ck3t]

You could literally remove Ibuki from the entire franchise and absolutely nothing would change.

.

 

[MetroidPrimeRib]

You could literally remove Ibuki from the entire franchise and absolutely nothing would change.

Why would you remove the person with the best sprites hands down

 

[Permanently A]

Same with Ibuki trash talkers like you

guitar

Why did you write trash twice?

airhorn

 

[Ganzlinger]

Ibuki was really great in DR2. A shame she was just background in DR3.

 

[sackboy2197]

Ibuki was really great in DR2. A shame she was just background in DR3.

Unfortunately we can say that about most of the cast of DR2.

 

[Ganzlinger]

Unfortunately we can say that about most of the cast of DR2.

Yep, only Chiaki, Hinata, Nagito, Mikan and Fat Mitarai were somewhat relevant. Gundham was a little bit better than the rest of the background.

 

[MiguelMexMIstery]

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and the expelled trio was even worse on top of that because "I can't trust you because you won't eat the things I make even though they'll literally kill you and you've told me this for years, and also I'm going to take advantage of you and bully you but it's your fault" was such bullshit.

it just boils down to "fuck you, eat this candy even if it kills you because ???". She's nowhere near being a character I'd call a "villain"- she's just the not important bully of a not important character and it all served only to waste time.

I agree with this. If they gave a better reason for Ruruka's treatment of Seiko then I still like her. But nope, "don't eat my candies, you're crap" (Ruruka's bit in "when did everything went wrong?" didn't convince me at all lol)

Ibuki remains the best together with Gundham. Two great characters who died too early.

Imagine a world where Ibuki and Gundham survive instead of Akane and Kazuichi

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even if I still love Kazuichi <3

Why would you remove the person with the best sprites hands down

Soooo darn good.

Yep, only Chiaki, Hinata, Nagito, Mikan and Fat Mitarai were somewhat relevant. Gundham was a little bit better than the rest of the background.

Yeah I'm surprised at Gundham's screentime (and him appearing in that crossover videogame along with other important characters). I guess Japan also loves him.

 

[QuiteWhittle]

You could literally remove Ibuki from the entire franchise and absolutely nothing would change.

It's kinda sad if you think about it.

She made only one contribution to the two trials she was in and it wasn't on purpose.
She had no real or notable relationship with anyone in the cast.
80% of her dialogue was nonsense that was mostly ignored.
Her FTE was as much about Hajime as it was about her.
And to top it off, she died in a double murder.

 

[PsionBolt]

They're both alive. There's still time to ruin them.

DR3 already ruined Gundham, with that abomination of a haircut they gave him.

 

[Ganzlinger]

DR3 already ruined Gundham, with that abomination of a haircut they gave him.

I didn't like the crap hairstyle either, so I guess it stays being his weak point. :/

 

[Demoli]

 

[dakkumauji]

maybe makoto is actually the ultimate clairvoyant all along

 

[PK Gaming]

You could literally remove Ibuki from the entire franchise and absolutely nothing would change.

You could literally apply this to the majority of victims

Ibuki added a ton of levity and "fun" to DR2, which is why her death hit hard

 

[A Link to the Past]

So on which days can I expect the fansubs to drop?

You could literally apply this to the majority of victims

Ibuki added a ton of levity and "fun" to DR2, which is why her death hit hard

Precisely :v without Ibuki a lot of people are just too serious or dickish

 

[Drago]

So it seems we may know what the 'special program' that takes despair arc 12's slot is now if this schedule listing is legit.

Spoiler

Danganronpa 3: Hope Arc

 

[Opto]

They really should have never attempted to fully explain how anyone fell into ultimate despair because that was worse than what happened in the Killing Joke

 

[Permanently A]

So it seems we may know what the 'special program' that takes despair arc 12's slot is now if this schedule listing is legit.

Spoiler

Danganronpa 3: Hope Arc

 

[dakkumauji]

So it seems we may know what the 'special program' that takes despair arc 12's slot is now if this schedule listing is legit.

Spoiler

Danganronpa 3: Hope Arc

KIBOU INTENSIFIES

 

[FluxWaveZ]

When Future meets Despair... Might be an epilogue following the finale that will be Future 12.

 

[GSR]

Hope that's legit, because while I think they could wrap up Future in one more episode, I doubt they could do it in a way that feels satisfying.

 

[Permanently A]

I don't think Future 12 will be the finale but instead the

Spoiler

Hope side.

Despair 11

• The Tragedy and Remnants in action.
• Izuru leaves flowers for Chiaki and meets Makoto.
• Izuru agrees to try to save Class 77 through the NWP

Future 12

• Tengan red herring.
• Reveal of Ryota's involvement.
• Reveal of Kirigiri's status.
• Class 77 arrives.

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Side: Hope

• Reveal of the mastermind.
• Closure for Class 77.
• Epilogue and hopeful ending.
• Kirigiri and Makoto
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  hold hands
  Spoiler

  without protection.

 

[RecRoulette]

Can't wait for that

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Munakata

epilogue.

 

[FluxWaveZ]

Spoiler

Side: Hope

• Reveal of the mastermind.

Reveal the mastermind in the same episode that will finish the series?

Sure, that sounds par for the course for Danganronpa 3.

 

[Pop-O-Matic]

Spoiler

Side: Hope

's just gonna be a gag episode that serves as the TV equivalent to School/Island Mode.

 

[FluxWaveZ]

Spoiler

Side: Hope

's just gonna be a gag episode that serves as the TV equivalent to School/Island Mode.

The alternate ending where Nagito shot Junko in the head.

 

[The Silver]

So it seems we may know what the 'special program' that takes despair arc 12's slot is now if this schedule listing is legit.

Spoiler

Danganronpa 3: Hope Arc

STEPPING STONES

 

[Permanently A]

Reveal the mastermind in the same episode that will finish the series?

Sure, that sounds par for the course for Danganronpa 3.

I'm on the "Munakata is the mastermind" train right now so I think it could work. Also he has a sword because he'll commit seppuku after losing both of the people he loved.

 

[lazyproblems]

So it seems we may know what the 'special program' that takes despair arc 12's slot is now if this schedule listing is legit.

Spoiler

Danganronpa 3: Hope Arc

Hope this is true, because it feels like there's no way two more episode (one of each arc) will wrap things up in a satisfying way. Having a

Spoiler

Hope Arc

as the finale makes sense anyway.

 

[Coffee Dog]

If there's

Spoiler

another arc full of episodes

then there's no reason for them to have fucked up despair side and future's pacing so badly. I'd probably be even more upset.

 

[R_thanatos]

Finally watched Future - 11

Juzo you're still an idiot.

But you saved maegi , so my opinion of you goes from "complete trash" to "average"

Quite a turn around , but you'll be forgotten because so many characters are better.

Mitarai was receiving order from the chairman , but as it turns out , the order came from ...chiaki .. ( i accept nagito as an alternative)

I'm calling it

 

[Pop-O-Matic]

Alternate theory:

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Side: Hope

is a DR2 adaptation.

 

[Permanently A]

If there's

Spoiler

another arc full of episodes

then there's no reason for them to have fucked up despair side and future's pacing so badly. I'd probably be even more upset.

Its not an arc, just an episode replacing Despair 12.

 

[Sky Interloper]

So it seems we may know what the 'special program' that takes despair arc 12's slot is now if this schedule listing is legit.

Spoiler

Danganronpa 3: Hope Arc

So, it's pretty much confirmed that the finale will bring the story of the Remnants to the current time in Future. At least whatever story is going to unfold will have more room to breathe.

 

[MetroidPrimeRib]

They made soooooooooooooo much concept art for UDG that they are still using the designs lmao. Took a look through it and you can see designs they ended up using for 3 and V3