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Danganronpa 3 The End of Hope's Peak Academy |OT| Nagito Komaeda's Wild Ride Part Two
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QuiteWhittle
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Getting kinda ridiculous that everyone and their mother knew Junko was evil but Jin didn't.
striferser
Huge Nickleback Fan
Rules of despair 9
Goddammit so may death in this episode. I guess we find out why Kyoko don't want to tell everyone her NG :/
Goddammit so may death in this episode. I guess we find out why Kyoko don't want to tell everyone her NG :/
Permanently A
Junior Member
Always delay 
StrikeFirst117
Banned
Another delay, UGH
MiguelMexMIstery
Member
Sgt.Pepper
Banned
Every week.
lazyproblems
Member
Damn.
dakkumauji
Member
weekly delay despair
Sky Interloper
Member
Despair 9
Well, for all intents and purposes it seems the brainwash will happen. Shame, but it keeps with Junko's opinion of the Remnants of Despair in the last trial of Danganronpa 2. If anything, it seems like Komaeda will be unnaffected by the video.
And after that tease about Chiaki's death, we got confirmation of Chisa's true allegiances. She must be revealed in the next Future arc as part of the conspirators of the Final Mutual Killing, but I don't see her as the mastermind. I wonder if that theory about Chisa = DR1 Junko will be true. But damn at that A Clockwork Orange shoutout with extra trepanation; it seems that Junko got notes from Matsuda's research before Zero, but watching Mukuro casually handling someone's brain like that was morbid.
Aside from that, I don't see the anime reaching beyond Zero's beginning. Whatever happened between Juzo and Junko will have to wait until next week, and we are going to see resolution on both Nanami's fate and Mitarai's recruiment. Considering we have two more episodes and the VA special, I believe the plot will finish there.
Ludger Kresnik
Member
Despair 9
I'm less suspicious of Mitarai in Future after this episode. He certainly seems to be despairing, but it's not really "that" kind of despair. Chisa, however, is 100% involved in some shady shit now.
Juzo had imo the best scene of the episode, when he nonchalantly threw his jacket on a student. Ugh, I can't believe I like him now.
Juzo had imo the best scene of the episode, when he nonchalantly threw his jacket on a student. Ugh, I can't believe I like him now.
Sky Interloper
Member
Also, how in hell did Junko got scot free after all the shit she has pulled?
I believe she said in DR1 that nobody knew she was involved until the reveal in the final trial, and she was of the few people that was saved by Jin Kirigiri when closing the school and converting the old building into a shelter. It doesn't make sense when you consider Munakata's investigation and her parading her exploits like it is nothing important. Hell, why would Matsuda be allowed to interrogate her when his connection to her may have been also revealed by Kyosuke?
They always make the likable characters dead. Always.
The whole Juzoboys thing on /a/ made me into a juzo fan a few weeks ago, its great
Despair 9
HOW is it possible that Junko was still considered a hope and be allowed with the rest of the 78 class inside the bunker?
Also it seems the 77 class will fall to despair before Danganronpa 0 start, I surely didnt expect that
Chisa is now full despair so surely she was despair in the future episodes
Also it seems the 77 class will fall to despair before Danganronpa 0 start, I surely didnt expect that
Chisa is now full despair so surely she was despair in the future episodes
properpropaganda
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Despair 9 is up on the website. Not the app yet, though.
Trigonometrize.
Member
Yeah, I just watched it in PS4 app.
Chisa is probably my favorite thing to come out of this anime tbh. Big things probably in store for her in regards to both arcs.
Chisa is probably my favorite thing to come out of this anime tbh. Big things probably in store for her in regards to both arcs.
Oh boy I'd stay out of here we're hitting endgame level stuff here
properpropaganda
Member
Chisa is gonna murder best girl, isn't she?
The are 2 despair episodes left, right?
The are 2 despair episodes left, right?
Ultimate Waifu vs ultimate waifu.
probs
What if she converts her? Chisa running the future killing game from Jaberwok while Chiaki handles making sure the game runs smoothly
Maybe
Chiaki is the head of 13 division (or whatever asahina's representing) regardless, imo
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
Brainwashing is like the lamest fucking reason for this entire series to have happened. It's almost as bad as MIND HACK. Whatever idea you had in your head after DR2 was probably better then this. With all the subtle work that went into the FTE and characters, there were routes for all of them to turn Despair without some lame-ass catch all way. It's also way past ridiculous now that Junko gets away with all the shit she does. Like how the fuck does Jin not know she's evil but everyone else does?
Izuru's role in this show is just sad. He does nothing.
I'm starting to be glad that they didn't do a game for 3 if this was the idea. I'm ready for hopes peak and hope vs despair to be abandoned in V3 so we can move on. This is just kinda lame now.
Izuru's role in this show is just sad. He does nothing.
I'm starting to be glad that they didn't do a game for 3 if this was the idea. I'm ready for hopes peak and hope vs despair to be abandoned in V3 so we can move on. This is just kinda lame now.
Oooohhhh sheeeeeeiiiiiiiit!!!!!
I still feel like Chiaki has to live in order for the AI to exist. Unless they just are gonna say "Oh just model it after one of her students. Class Rep seems like a good choice."
But damn that theory seems rock solid
Sky Interloper
Member
And the unwitting instigators of the End of the World are, not surprisingly, the Steering Committee.
dakkumauji
Member
the steering committee are unsurprisingly terrible
oh yeah, you have to accept this student regardless of how evil or terrible they are, but they become your problem after you are forced to accept them, kbye
Ludger Kresnik
Member
Can't help but pretty much agree. It seems like there was a good reason why DR0 and SDR2 left so many details really vague.
Wow this despair stuff is seriously awful at this point. Every addition to the lore makes it worse, and it's just trying to be needlessly edgy in a very un-Danganronpa like way. When Junko first showed up in this thing she was fun to watch. Now, she's just a villain-sue. We know she wins, and we know she's dead, so why the fuck do we have to sit here and watch this crap? We get it, Junko is the bestest ever.
There wasn't even anything that bad in this episode, it's just been the tipping point for me. I don't think the brainwashing stuff is even that bad, but it's emblematic of everything wrong with despair. Everything this anime shows us was better in our heads. All this added was a fucking edge factor sharp enough to cut diamonds.
I'm still enjoying future quite a bit, but at this point I almost feel like I just want to stop. I'm being told that in order to watch the finale of Danganronpa every week, I have to sit through 24 minutes of watching characters I like have awful things happen to them for no reason. And that lack of reason is the biggest problem.
Bad emotions and awful things in media are supposed to fulfill a purpose. To pull an example out of my ass, I just finished reading all of Berserk that is available to me 2 days ago, and that had some of the most awful, most horrible stuff in it I've ever read. But it was all to fill a purpose. The bad in that manga exists to counteract the good. It's a driving force for the characters and the plot. You want to see the characters remove themselves from the situations they're in because you experienced it alongside them.
Danganronpa 1 & 2 understood this. The murders, the executions, the lows of the series all exist for a reason: so the player continues to want to beat the game and have the remaining cast escape. In DR2, the reveal that the characters are Ultimate Despair was the lowest point in the game. It came after a spiral of trippy visuals and disturbing themes, after the death of a character who was designed specifically to endear to the player. It's a gut-punch at the end of a long series of blows, and it's thanks to that that the ending of DR2 works so well.
I've mentioned before how much I love DR2's ending, but it's honestly mostly because it's a shining beacon of hope at the end of a long spiral of despair. It justifies every bad feeling I felt playing that game, it's an emotional release where both the player and the characters they care about reach the moment they've been searching for, and as a bonus it's executed brilliantly and makes excellent use of the UI and mechanics the series is known for.
Here however? There's none of that. It's all lows, a long, endless series of bad images and crappy justifications. Kamukura isn't interesting. Junko isn't interesting. Time that could be spent getting to know these characters, characters that could not be explored fully in just the games, is wasted on watching teenagers murder each other with barely implied justification. This show thinks it can show a slightly bloody picture of someone's mother or mumble something about brainwashing before showing us something awful and it'll have the same effect as Gundhams execution. Or the discovery of Sayaka's body.
I'm sure some people will say that's the point, that this is the 'Despair' side after all. But you know what? That doesn't make it good. When I think of Danganronpa, I should get a twisted feeling, a feeling of a theme park mixed with a horror film. But when I think of Danganronpa 3, I just feel bad. I don't know, maybe it's my fault, maybe I'm just not the person this anime is for. I never cared about the past of the DR2 cast or the conclusion to Makotos story, I just feel like I should watch it because it has the word Danganronpa on it.
I'm sure this ramble is way too long and confusing and probably contradicts itself somewhere, but I just felt like I had to write my thoughts down somehow.
There wasn't even anything that bad in this episode, it's just been the tipping point for me. I don't think the brainwashing stuff is even that bad, but it's emblematic of everything wrong with despair. Everything this anime shows us was better in our heads. All this added was a fucking edge factor sharp enough to cut diamonds.
I'm still enjoying future quite a bit, but at this point I almost feel like I just want to stop. I'm being told that in order to watch the finale of Danganronpa every week, I have to sit through 24 minutes of watching characters I like have awful things happen to them for no reason. And that lack of reason is the biggest problem.
Bad emotions and awful things in media are supposed to fulfill a purpose. To pull an example out of my ass, I just finished reading all of Berserk that is available to me 2 days ago, and that had some of the most awful, most horrible stuff in it I've ever read. But it was all to fill a purpose. The bad in that manga exists to counteract the good. It's a driving force for the characters and the plot. You want to see the characters remove themselves from the situations they're in because you experienced it alongside them.
Danganronpa 1 & 2 understood this. The murders, the executions, the lows of the series all exist for a reason: so the player continues to want to beat the game and have the remaining cast escape. In DR2, the reveal that the characters are Ultimate Despair was the lowest point in the game. It came after a spiral of trippy visuals and disturbing themes, after the death of a character who was designed specifically to endear to the player. It's a gut-punch at the end of a long series of blows, and it's thanks to that that the ending of DR2 works so well.
I've mentioned before how much I love DR2's ending, but it's honestly mostly because it's a shining beacon of hope at the end of a long spiral of despair. It justifies every bad feeling I felt playing that game, it's an emotional release where both the player and the characters they care about reach the moment they've been searching for, and as a bonus it's executed brilliantly and makes excellent use of the UI and mechanics the series is known for.
Here however? There's none of that. It's all lows, a long, endless series of bad images and crappy justifications. Kamukura isn't interesting. Junko isn't interesting. Time that could be spent getting to know these characters, characters that could not be explored fully in just the games, is wasted on watching teenagers murder each other with barely implied justification. This show thinks it can show a slightly bloody picture of someone's mother or mumble something about brainwashing before showing us something awful and it'll have the same effect as Gundhams execution. Or the discovery of Sayaka's body.
I'm sure some people will say that's the point, that this is the 'Despair' side after all. But you know what? That doesn't make it good. When I think of Danganronpa, I should get a twisted feeling, a feeling of a theme park mixed with a horror film. But when I think of Danganronpa 3, I just feel bad. I don't know, maybe it's my fault, maybe I'm just not the person this anime is for. I never cared about the past of the DR2 cast or the conclusion to Makotos story, I just feel like I should watch it because it has the word Danganronpa on it.
I'm sure this ramble is way too long and confusing and probably contradicts itself somewhere, but I just felt like I had to write my thoughts down somehow.
StrikeFirst117
Banned
Despair episode 9 Goddamn that was something
The moment where Chisa was forced to witness a reserve course student hacking himself with a saw and the torture brainwash on her was quite hard to watch.
Based on that smile at the end, it is identical to Junko's so is Chisa the mastermind of future arc then, because it seems like it now.
Based on that smile at the end, it is identical to Junko's so is Chisa the mastermind of future arc then, because it seems like it now.
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