Danganronpa Mafia |OT| Grin and Bear It

Kalor said:
I'm not against them being revealed as it could lead to clearing up some night phase stuff though I would bet on only one of them being Despair.
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I have no way of knowing who (redacted) is since I'm not Pau, but you had to know you were <other> from my posts. Your pushing for the reveal of another PR without outing yourself before hand?

Vote: Kalor
 
It is interesting that the nights Sawneeks said she moved, AB said he targeted someone on the top row and couldn't confirm her movements. With Crab dead we also have one less witness.

VOTE: Sawneeks
 
AbsolutBro said:
Who posts from the grocery sto-

oh

right.

:P

This post, but it's not a big deal right now.
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I'm definitely in a good situation. i don't know the other roles so it's hard to say if Despair can counter it. I remember being in disbelief of a second armorer. They ended up benefiting mafia somehow, so

I think my lucky buddy should reveal tomorrow. But it's their choice and it's clear from their silence that they want to give up the chance to thwart a night kill. I don't blame them.
 
AbsolutBro said:
I have no way of knowing who (redacted) is since I'm not Pau, but you had to know you were <other> from my posts. Your pushing for the reveal of another PR without outing yourself before hand?

Vote: Kalor
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Wait, I thought you were going to pull this trick but why are you doing this. I'm an Ordinary Student so I have not left my room so far.

Either you are Despair trying to trick everyone until the end of the day or Despair can pretend to be a random Hope member and that is what you saw.
 
Kalor said:
Wait, I thought you were going to pull this trick but why are you doing this. I'm an Ordinary Student so I have not left my room so far.

Either you are Despair trying to trick everyone until the end of the day or Despair can pretend to be a random Hope member and that is what you saw.
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It is a strange comment as well. If AB had seen you then he had to have known that it was very likely Pau saw you D2. Sawneeks can't exit her room without seeing you (or confirming that you didn't move).
 
Kalor said:
Wait, I thought you were going to pull this trick but why are you doing this. I'm an Ordinary Student so I have not left my room so far.

Either you are Despair trying to trick everyone until the end of the day or Despair can pretend to be a random Hope member and that is what you saw.
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N2 I wandered to Terrabyte's place.
N4 I wandered to Goshujinsama's place.

The route to both of those places would take me past your room. So either you came out, or one of the following is a new role that can disguise themself:

Splinter
Ty4on
Sawneeks
Rest
Christina Mackenzie

With Sawneeks on the list I won't automatically dismiss your defense out of hand, but with Czar throwing out the Ninja theory and now you throwing out the Mimic theory, I'm rather inclined to trust Occam on this one.
 
AbsolutBro, if you aren't lying and outed yet another Hope PR...

Sawneeks is in the best position to confirm.
 
Ty4on said:
It is a strange comment as well. If AB had seen you then he had to have known that it was very likely Pau saw you D2.
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Just want to address this. I have no idea where Pau goes, so I can't assume anything about what she sees. Since Pau is across from me I will ALWAYS see her regardless of which direction she goes afterwards. I'm not going to ask her about her routes either, so I can't really clarify/verify off of Pau.
 
Sawneeks said:
unvote: Zippedpinhead

I want to see where this goes with Kalor.
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Ty4on said:
It is a strange comment as well. If AB had seen you then he had to have known that it was very likely Pau saw you D2. Sawneeks can't exit her room without seeing you (or confirming that you didn't move).
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Pau said:
AbsolutBro, if you aren't lying and outed yet another Hope PR...

Sawneeks is in the best position to confirm.
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Sawneeks, paging Sawneeks...
 
Pau said:
AbsolutBro, if you aren't lying and outed yet another Hope PR...

Sawneeks is in the best position to confirm.
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Unless Sawneeks is also Despair?

I fully accept that if Kalor flips Hope my neck is on the chopping block. I can't exactly show you my PMs to prove that I saw Kalor twice, but that's what's there. Like I said to Kalor, I won't 100% rule out the possibility of a Mimic/Copycat either.


But pushing for a PR to reveal them self when he's (in my eyes) been out and about?
 
Sawneeks, 19 minutes. Your input please.
 
AbsolutBro said:
Unless Sawneeks is also Despair?

I fully accept that if Kalor flips Hope my neck is on the chopping block. I can't exactly show you my PMs to prove that I saw Kalor twice, but that's what's there. Like I said to Kalor, I won't 100% rule out the possibility of a Mimic/Copycat either.


But pushing for a PR to reveal them self when he's (in my eyes) been out and about?
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The mimic makes sense if Despair don't have a ninja. It gives them a way to move at night and not out themselve by being someone new in the hallways.

I thinking about voting for Sawneeks if they don't respond quickly.
 
I feel like a huge fucking bomb was just dropped with 15 minutes left in the vote. Not cool, even if you are Hope. In fact, that's an anti-hope move right there. It gives us like no fucking time to think or discuss.
 
CornBurrito said:
I feel like a huge fucking bomb was just dropped with 15 minutes left in the vote. Not cool, even if you are Hope. In fact, that's an anti-hope move right there. It gives us like no fucking time to think or discuss.
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In my defense, I was going to keep my mouth shut about Kalor. His post calling for (redacted) to be outed really bothered me though.
 
AbsolutBro said:
Unless Sawneeks is also Despair?

I fully accept that if Kalor flips Hope my neck is on the chopping block. I can't exactly show you my PMs to prove that I saw Kalor twice, but that's what's there. Like I said to Kalor, I won't 100% rule out the possibility of a Mimic/Copycat either.


But pushing for a PR to reveal them self when he's (in my eyes) been out and about?
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That was gonna be my next question. If you saw him twice, I think it's highly unlikely that he's a Mimic/Copycat. And in order to mimic, would the mimic have to go to the target's room first?

Sawneeks, you don't move around on even nights so did you see Kalor (or a possible mimic) on N3?

Even if you're right AB about Kalor being Despair, doing this at the last second when people with necessary information (like Sawneeks) might not be here is really not a good idea. She's around enough to unvote, but if she wasn't here. :/
 
AbsolutBro said:
Unless Sawneeks is also Despair?

I fully accept that if Kalor flips Hope my neck is on the chopping block. I can't exactly show you my PMs to prove that I saw Kalor twice, but that's what's there. Like I said to Kalor, I won't 100% rule out the possibility of a Mimic/Copycat either.


But pushing for a PR to reveal them self when he's (in my eyes) been out and about?
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If they're both Despair Sawneeks could have used Kalor's info for her night reports. It also fits in with her not being out when you were in the bottom row. I was thinking of her maybe using Redacted's list when I voted for her.
Rest said:
Sawneeks, 19 minutes. Your input please.
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She's busy
Sawneeks said:
It looks like I won't be here for the end of the day but I will try to check in sporadically through mobile if I can.
[...]
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Pau said:
That was gonna be my next question. If you saw him twice, I think it's highly unlikely that he's a Mimic/Copycat. And in order to mimic, would the mimic have to go to the target's room first?

Sawneeks, you don't move around on even nights so did you see Kalor (or a possible mimic) on N3?

Even if you're right AB about Kalor being Despair, doing this at the last second when people with necessary information (like Sawneeks) might not be here is really not a good idea. She's around enough to unvote, but if she wasn't here. :/
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I mean, should I have sat on this until the next day phase and let someone I'm sure is Hope get Punished? Talk about anti-town.
 
AbsolutBro said:
N2 I wandered to Terrabyte's place.
N4 I wandered to Goshujinsama's place.

The route to both of those places would take me past your room. So either you came out, or one of the following is a new role that can disguise themself:

Splinter
Ty4on
Sawneeks
Rest
Christina Mackenzie

With Sawneeks on the list I won't automatically dismiss your defense out of hand, but with Czar throwing out the Ninja theory and now you throwing out the Mimic theory, I'm rather inclined to trust Occam on this one.
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Why only those 5? Why can't I be the mimic for example?
 
CornBurrito said:
Why only those 5? Why can't I be the mimic for example?
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I was basing the list on the people that I would pass between my room and Terra/Goshu.

But you're right, I guess someone else could have wandered down the hall as a mimic, and just happened to cross paths with me during the two nights I ventured along the same path on the bottom row.
 
AbsolutBro, what rooms have you visited?
 
Sawneeks said:
Kalor I would like a good explanation of Night 1 and why you didn't move.
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Pau said:
You didn't know if he was *Redacted*. What if he was? Where would that leave you and this action?
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IF Kalor was a PR, he HAD to know we were talking about him, based on the "who you see also sees you".

I saw Kalor N2 and N4. That means Kalor saw me N2 and N4. Unless there was some super long list of people that he saw N2 AND N4, he had to know that he was the <other> I was referring to. That's why when he called for (redacted) to be outed, I asked if he meant (redacted) or <other>. Even when I pressed further, he was like "yeah okay they should too", like an afterthought for (redacted).

That told me, at least, that he KNEW he was <other> and was pushing for (redacted) to be outed because he didn't need <other> (i.e., himself) to be outed.
 
Hrmm... if AB is Despair and lying, what purpose does this lie have? Why implicate Kalor of all people? The only way I can think of that is to protect Zip.

AB might not be a bad vote for tomorrow. Or tonight. But I'll give the benefit of the doubt for today.
 
It's a gut feeling more than anything. It just seems like they are trying to stall at this point unless they just don't have the time right now to read through older posts.
 
And why would Kalor lie about being "ordinary" of all things if he is Despair and just got outed as a rule breaker just now? Why not lie and say he is some Hope PR?

I'm putting my neck out there because if Kalor is Despair, I look really fuckin bad for defending him.
 
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