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Dark Souls II |OT++| Bearer of...Seek...Seek...Lest
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ambientmystic
Member
Here's a really rough and simple diagram that I plotted out using Paint (lol) as I played the game the first time around, it really helped me out with the navigation of the world. I share it here so that other gaffers new to the game could benefit from it as well:-
(warning, contains spoilers obviously)
KittenMaster
Member
Easiest way of thinking of Drangelic and Majula is that it's an attempt to recreate Demon's Souls level select system while trying to make it look like it's interconnected (and that image demonstrates it, notice how the only time branches connect at an end is Lost Bastille, they're always expanding outward otherwise). It's why they gave you bonfire teleporting right away so that you can keep going back to the main hub to level up like you had to in Demon's Souls.
Of course unlike Demon's Souls and Dark Souls they have more hard barriers to getting to new areas, and the entrances to branches from Majula aren't always obvious (like the one that leads to Huntsman's Corpse which eluded me for awhile).
Of course unlike Demon's Souls and Dark Souls they have more hard barriers to getting to new areas, and the entrances to branches from Majula aren't always obvious (like the one that leads to Huntsman's Corpse which eluded me for awhile).
Orochinagis
Member
More like they dont know how interconnected open world design is about so they made quick travel as a default option.
ambientmystic
Member
Agreed, I tried drawing up a similar diagram for the first game and it was a mess due how interconnected the world was, with its various shortcuts, hidden entrances and doors leading to and from the same areas.
Every area in DkS1 had at least 3-4 ways of going in and out and were also connected to at least 3-4 zones except for the areas in the peripheries of the game. E.g. Crystal Cave.
Morrigan Stark
Arrogant Smirk
I was playing Legacy of Kain: Defiance (PS2 game) today and was reminded at how good the game looks for a 10 year old game. This place reminded me of Shaded Woods, and in motion at 60 FPS it almost felt better... xD
Compared to Shaded Woods...
>_>
Compared to Shaded Woods...
>_>
KittenMaster
Member
People like to talk on how the lighting got downgraded but I don't think even the best lighting system would save shaded woods with its geometry that wouldn't be out of place in something like Half-life 1 (most notably the room with the BKH chest).
Morrigan Stark
Arrogant Smirk
Yeah, the geometry was flat and the textures were really awful. Harvest Valley and Shaded Woods are the only places in the Souls series I'd actually call "ugly". It's a shame because Shaded Woods was pretty cool conceptually and could have been really atmospheric, those haunted ruins with creepy cursed witch pots and prowling lion warriors and stuff. Ah well.
IINM they are using a completely new engine?
Likely Bloodborne will use the same engine, so fingers crossed they get the technicals sorted out by then.
Morrigan Stark
Arrogant Smirk
Why would a PS4 game use the same engine as a PS3 one...? Also, what does IINM mean? You internet kids and your acronyms, get off my lawn!
jk
Orochinagis
Member
More like they can finally add the shitty filter of their hig res trailers.
Red Liquorice
Member
Of course. Dive in.
Misterinenja
Member
It's clearly an unfinished area.
Somehow I get the feeling that the game was pushed out by Namco Bandai by force once again.
Orochinagis
Member
I dont think so, look at the trailers music, the comics book, the LE content, namco focused into the game marketing but forgot about the game development.
Plenty of boss slaying tonight. Velstadt dead in less than 2 minutes. Vendrick dead by kitchen knife in a little over 3 minutes. I managed to kill the Throne Basterds also. I was quite shocked over how easy they die, even on NG+2. The Watcher has no defense whatsoever. He/she is almost as pathetic Dual Dragonrider with a bow.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7f25FAC06Q&list=PLmDYWh3bXyBSOOpsz64rT6bGx0HOxsLvI&index=2
Now, time to finish the memories and get that Giant Warrior Club...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7f25FAC06Q&list=PLmDYWh3bXyBSOOpsz64rT6bGx0HOxsLvI&index=2
Now, time to finish the memories and get that Giant Warrior Club...
KillerDark
Member
Finally beat this game last night, it was a fun ride. Probably going to hold off on NG+ till DLC is out
Rarely had invasions so far, but had 2 tonight..damn the lag I get in this is terrible..Figured if I was being invaded then I would be the host and the lag would be on their end..nope.
Invader spawns in Heide ruins..Blue Phantom spawns 5 seconds later..Wait with shield up for Invader to cross the bridge..just stands there for about 20seconds..then suddenly Blue Phantom banished and I'm being backstabbed.
Invader spawns in Heide ruins..Blue Phantom spawns 5 seconds later..Wait with shield up for Invader to cross the bridge..just stands there for about 20seconds..then suddenly Blue Phantom banished and I'm being backstabbed.
fluffydelusions
Member
I was wanting to pick it up again yesterday after being away for some weeks. I actually assumed this game used steam cloud for saves but nope! I formatted the drive with my save on it the other day and went to play and only had the option for new game lol. I already had the beat the game but still I was wanting to play the dlc with my character...oh wells. BTW, anyone playing the PC version is it still easy to get summons for boss fights as it was when it initially came out?
Haven't summoned anyone myself, but I've seen plenty of signs up on NG.
As long as you're on the right SM-tier, it's pretty easy to get summons, although there are a lot less of them than a few months ago. I don't know about others, but I avoid placing down signs because completing bosses as a summon pushes my SM up..
They probably just wanted to put too much into it, and rushed individual things.
That's probably why there isn't an organic sense of progression to areas.
The game is rushed in general, yet there's a lot of content.
Quantity of quality, basically.
Orochinagis
Member
I saw dude wearing a black witch set but using melee, pvp is weird
KittenMaster
Member
Ok so did I screw something up.
I fought the Throne Watcher and Throne Defender as soon as I got the kings ring. Nothing else happened. I then realized what wasn't finished and headed to the place with the dragons, and i'm assuming the giants are next. just wondering if I broke the chain of something since everyone says you fight Throne Watcher and Defender and then right to the final boss??? Please tell me I don't have to start over
Orochinagis
Member
One shot the spiders mobs if you can,
one of the heads shoots corrosive stuff while the other uses the laser beam, focus on the acid one but be careful of its legs and its slam attack. Freya is vulnerable to fire I think
You face them pretty fast its not like you get a rest and start exploring around the area. I think there is a bosss every 30 mins.
Ok so did I screw something up.
I fought the Throne Watcher and Throne Defender as soon as I got the kings ring. Nothing else happened. I then realized what wasn't finished and headed to the place with the dragons, and i'm assuming the giants are next. just wondering if I broke the chain of something since everyone says you fight Throne Watcher and Defender and then right to the final boss??? Please tell me I don't have to start over
No at all, if you do the other way
you inmediately face the last boss right after defeating the throne defenders
I should do that with my drakekeeper swords it should be fun.
ambientmystic
Member
Actually,
I think both heads are capable of switching up between acid attacks and laser beam attacks.
Red Liquorice
Member
lol. You can't be mad at this game for being trash because it's just too funny!
That's a relief!. Thank you so much.
The game isn't as good as dark souls, but it isn't trash.
KittenMaster
Member
Yeah, PVP is not how you judge this game. It's still pretty functional in single player.
Red Liquorice
Member
Hahaha, oops! Should've been more specific, I was talking about the crappy pvp.
KittenMaster
Member
So I finally finished a fanart (possible story spoilers)
EDIT: Removing image so I can delete it from my Imgur account.
EDIT: Removing image so I can delete it from my Imgur account.
Orochinagis
Member
Red Liquorice
Member
That's great! As it loaded down (bit slow here) I was expecting Havel to be wearing the Smelter Demon headpiece too XD
il Diavolo
Banned
So I got Dark Souls 2 today. Got as far as Majula and currently taking in the sights. Jumping into this right after Dark Souls and I gotta say the controls feel a bit off. Movement in particular feels....looser? Can't quite put my finger on it but It's going to take a bit getting used to.
Also the intro cinematic was nowhere near as compelling as the one in Dark Souls. Didn't really do a good job of setting up the world of Drangleic and just felt a little flat. Not a big issue, however, just wish there was more to chew on.
Also the intro cinematic was nowhere near as compelling as the one in Dark Souls. Didn't really do a good job of setting up the world of Drangleic and just felt a little flat. Not a big issue, however, just wish there was more to chew on.
Floaty seems to be apt?
il Diavolo
Banned
Yeah. Again, I'm probably noticing it more because Dark Souls is still fresh on my mind, but the differences in movement is tangible.
Definitely floaty. The running animation looks like ice skating too.