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Dark Souls II |OT++| Bearer of...Seek...Seek...Lest
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Not bowing is the opposite inverse of not washing hands after taking a dump.
Do what you want. Invasions are anything goes. It's not sparring.
Screaming Meat
Unconfirmed Member
I don't thinking nerfing bows is a good idea...
That sounds about right. At least I have the stats to change to a strength weapon if I get fed up with katanas.
Gotta disagree here. If I'm minding my own business derping around a level trying to make my way toward a boss and you come in my game I will try to destroy you as quickly as possible, while using as few items/casts as possible, so I can go back on my merry.
Why should I give you a chance to prepare and ruin my run? "Honor"? Fuck honor.
Yeah, I never had an issue with them. Bows are fine; definitely don't need nerfing.
As I've said before, the game will always be more fun when everything is overpowered rather than a bunch of things being nerfed.
It's not a nerf. It's common sense.
They can patch that without nerfing them. Increase the damage so that it does the same as now in half range and make it reverse scale with distance like in the previous games.
Cannon Goose
Member
I've been hit too many times while bowing or buffing my weapon in this game. Coming from the last game where "honour" was somewhat prevalent to this game where it is basically a wasteland full of crazy magicians, I just don't give a fuck anymore.
Now the moment I see my opponent I blast them with GRS and chase after them.
Now the moment I see my opponent I blast them with GRS and chase after them.
Misterinenja
Member
Maybe a teeny tiny bit? I'm going full utterly bonkers weapons wise on the co-op character I'm going to look hilarious with the jesters outfit and a pair of dragon tooth. I'm stealing yours btw when we get to aerie.
It is but it's helpful for co-op I've got more effigies than I'll ever use irregardless.
I'm going that route too it's just a matter of finding the soft caps really for everything. I might end up going over a few though really not that it matters.
A host bowed for me once I invaded them I hit them with a mace instead.
I agree. Only use bows/greets if you invited an invader for a duel. If they invaded you, just fuck them up.
It's not a nerf, it's just making it so that using a bow as a ranged weapon is not effective. That's the argument?
Sometimes I think gameplay is more important than logic, and the bows are fine. They are fun to use. Why change something that is fun to use?
Misterinenja
Member
Best gestures:
1. Righty-ho!
2. Warmup
3. Have mercy!
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99. Decapitate
1. Righty-ho!
2. Warmup
3. Have mercy!
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99. Decapitate
Screaming Meat
Unconfirmed Member
Common sense doesn't always make for good and balanced gameplay though.
Do spells lose damage at distance? Since bows are the only ranged option for pure melee/pure bow users and those builds are (apparently) already at a huge disadvantage, I think this is a bit of a non-issue, really.
Exactly.
XD Sure. I'm sticking to my mitts and my faith.
I need my Main to catch up with yours to get all those juicy katanas.
I may have to have a couple of nights concentrating on him... but then you'll be even further ahead!
No, logic would be to make the arrow damage increase as the distance crosses a threshold (the apex of the arc) because now you have gravity, weighing down on the arrow, increasing its speed.
Arjen
Member
Well worth it imho, i only have gold for Netflix and Dark Souls. Messages, co-op, invading and all the other covenants really add to the experience.
catashtrophe
Member
Question about the
I successfully killed the boss in Brightstone Cove with
but got to the looking glass knight and
.
Can I go back to Brightstone and use an ascetic 2 times and just use
?
Benhart of Jugo trophy
I successfully killed the boss in Brightstone Cove with
his help
he killed Benhart 2 times in a row now
Can I go back to Brightstone and use an ascetic 2 times and just use
Benhart to kill the boss both times and get his trophy
Or does it have to be 3 different bosses you defeat with him staying alive?
But that'd require a realistic flying path for arrows.
*flashbacks to Dark Souls 1 undead burg archers' arrows that curved toward you*
Yes, you can use ascetic on the same bosses for the trophy.
Screaming Meat
Unconfirmed Member
They curve in this one too.
Arrows aren't shot in an arc though. Most of the time it's on a horizontal plane. Since distance traveled is inversely proportional to velocity. And as we know, an arrow's damage is done from penetration, more speed is equal to more damage. With distance the speed decreases and so does the chance for lethal damage.
I think it is way less noticeable, tho.
Screaming Meat
Unconfirmed Member
That's debatable.... but I don't want to debate it XD
That's part of my point: the physics in this game don't make sense so why should bows be nerfed because 'physics/logic' when the normal laws are never followed by them, anyway?
I laughed entirely too much at this.
Yep, gameplay should always trump everything else.
Yeah, that stupid crap always makes me laugh too lol. Anything with "horse" also gets me. It's just really funny playing a game in a dark, serious universe and then reading a message about horses and but holes.
Screaming Meat
Unconfirmed Member
I put one in front of the Crestfallen Warrior fella on the cliff:
"Happiness required ahead or Be wary of jumping..."
Didn't get many hits, sadly.
"Happiness required ahead or Be wary of jumping..."
Didn't get many hits, sadly.
Misterinenja
Member
OH SHIT my new Dex set up wrecks shit up.
I wish I wasn't overeleveled at SL170 with this character (I put my extra points to attunement slots which I never use so it's not that unfair to all you 150'ers),
I wish I wasn't overeleveled at SL170 with this character (I put my extra points to attunement slots which I never use so it's not that unfair to all you 150'ers),
The_Darkest_Red
Member
The messages this time around are amazing, I love them. The possibilities with wonderful additions like "by the way," and "in short," are endless!
Nope.
I like my bows so I want them to be as effective and enjoyable as possible.
It's not always true that the damage will decrease with distance. It depends on the orientation and many other parameters.
Fromsoft wanted to make it simple this time and thus made bow damage flat I guess.
I did a lot of archery in real life, that's why this bothers me. I'm starting to get used to it but it feels weird.
theSlacker
Member
It does make the game easier, but that isn't even my biggest problem with it. From a design standpoint some of the mob placement would just be unacceptable without it. Several bonfires have things that will attack you right when you use, and then there are things like the bellyflops near Straid. So what I'm saying is the main reason I don't like it is the way they are allowed to design encounters because of it.
41h of gameplay 2 major souls obtained SL at 108.
I can definitively say I like DS2 more than DS
Playing as melee char (I raised my ATTN to 10 to get at least one slot)
So far the place where I died the most is the
So how long do I have left before beating the game ?
I can definitively say I like DS2 more than DS
Playing as melee char (I raised my ATTN to 10 to get at least one slot)
So far the place where I died the most is the
Iron keep (DAT Smelter Demon)
So how long do I have left before beating the game ?
Only 2 major souls? A lot more to go!
Oh you have a lot left, my friend. Dark Souls 2 is a very meaty game.
Augemitbutter
Member
whole game ahead of you. enjoy.
Good to hear that , I'm trying to take my time.
Oh the fun of exploring dangerous area and finding new cool loot , been a while I had this feeling in a game .
ExFalsoQuodlibet
Member
No, you're not, there's no obligation to exchange pleasantries. The invader can take the risk to bow and wait and see if the host responds if he/she wants a match without healing and such, but it's a risk, and the host should not feel obligated to follow arbitrary tournament rules.
Think about it in this way: it's convenient for the invader to get a bow in return, trying to artificially balance the match, even if you cannot balance it fully because enemies will still go against the host. Also, invading a game interrupts the progress of the host, and there's no way to say that the host wants that.
There are areas that naturally come up as matching arenas (other than the "real" arenas), and if you want to PVP there it's just a matter of politeness to exchange the bow and follow the rules, but if you get a random invader, just destroy it.
That's why people don't want to spoil a souls game. It's an experience that can't be recreated a second time. Also the reason I didn't visit the OT until beating the game.
The amount of secrets is exhaustive. I keep finding new stuff after two complete playthroughs.
TeddyShardik
Banned
Yeah, I like that. You can make many more stupid messages than before!
I dread the day they decide to make it possible to write whatever you like though. It will be "dicks" and "your mom" everywhere.
ExFalsoQuodlibet
Member
That may have been a deliberate choice: to make you feel unsafe even near bonfires. That also empowers the soothing safety of Majula, the Nexus of DkS2.