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Dark Souls II |OT| The Dark Souls of Dark Souls
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Good luck doing no physical damage there bud. Hope u don't run into anyone with GMB there bud.
KCroxtonJr
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Brightness and gamma can most definitely make shadows, ao, and any dark areas in a game much less visible. Of course it can't change geometry, but that has nothing to do with lighting.
As I said, I doubt the lighting still looks exactly the same, but I also doubt that pic is showing off how the area really looks. I've seen streams where Majula looks completely washed out and you can barely see the shadows, and I know it doesn't really look like that at all.
edit: I'm also not saying the graphics are exactly the same, all I'm saying is they probably aren't as bad as people are trying to make it seem.
A Sentient Keyboard
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Hmmm, interesting.
Polioliolio
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Well... clearly a huge difference there. No point in debating it.
Here's hoping the top is PC with maximum settings, and they didn't just bullshit us.
Cloud Strife
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Bless you.
Garcia
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Dude, I'm pretty sure that last shot was taken from a (low-res) video. There are huge box/ pixels everywhere.
And the PC version will definitely kick balls visually. They promised 4x the native resolution of consoles.
Garcia
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Me upon seeing people spoiling themselves with streams.
Let's
Some people have already mentioned they don't mind spoiling the game since they only care for the PvP aspects of the game. That's a fair argument and that explains why so many have been looking up for as many fresh info they can gather: Builds, stats, weapons, etc.
I'm not bothering with PvP at all unless it is so much better than the original DS.
CountAntonius
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The pain in the ass is that I actually would like info on mechanics and the sort but not story relsted things. The other thread is no holds barred.
Nooooo
Are you gonna play offline?
Cause you're gonna have to deal with invasions all the time. I know there are priority queues in the game, help from covenants and so on but it's not like you can just run hollow and bypass that altogether. So it's not really a choice, unfortunately.
I only hope there's less lag, less lagstabs and I'll be cool with it. Just don't wanna have to deal with bullshit all the time while I'm trying to make progress. In dark souls I'm getting invaded every 5-10 minutes and it gets boring fast, but at least it happens cause I choose it. Training and all, you win some and lose some.
But when it's due to lag it's really really frustrating to lose progress. When I see the invasion message I backtrack so I don't have to fight all those enemies again to reclaim my shit in case I lose. Considering the amount of griefing, lagstabing and pyro spamming in this game, it's bound to happen often.
It's the only aspect of DSII that I'm not feeling right now but I hope it's more balanced and doesn't detract too much from the fun.
AKingNamedPaul
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Agreed. Cant get enough of it.
SeventhSon
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Given that all the stats now increase HP, is Vigor the new Resistance?
Nope, doesn't feel like a locked 30fps AT ALL. I'll try record some footage.
Morrigan Stark
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Wow. I hope that's a trophy, just to taste the tears from the trophy whores, haha.
(Also, spoiler-tagged that just in case...)
Seriously. The best part of Dark Souls is the discovery. I watched the initial reveals, and played the beta, just to get a taste, but nothing more.
I beat Manus and Kalameet at SL1 tonight, so I think I'm prepared now. Of course, I'm sure I'm horribly wrong. -)
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Baldwin_the_First
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A lot of conflicting opinion on this matter, even on this thread. Some says (two so far) that the FPS is really bad, others says it's great. You say you're waiting for the PC, so basicaly you're saying you pirated it, right? Might have something to do with it, the torrent I mean.
Now that we can carry many weapons, this isn't going to be a big problem.
We can have main and subs.lol
Apparently so, but it's really a question of how much.
I've heard reports that early levels in VIG give 30 hp, whereas all the other stats are only ever giving 1 per level.
Don't know about that last part lol, but yeah, we have people saying the game runs like crap with screen tearing and all that on one hand, and on the other we have guys like Creamium running into no obvious issues at all. Even so, tons of people were making judgements based on crappy streams.
I don't think anyone should worry before playing it and seeing it for themselves.
Just updated to v1.01. Let's see how it goes now...
There's already an official day one patch?
Adaptability is resistance + agility.
I'm guessing vigor raises your HP noticeably more than any other stat.
Why when you lose 5% of your health per death?
SeventhSon
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It's not just the spoilers, it's the furtive whispering for the secret streams hiding underground from Bamco.
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Grinchy
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That's pretty awesome if they put up the day 1 patch days before the game is even out.
They know some people got it early. Like in Dark Souls when they had the devs invade people with unbeatable characters since they got the game early lol
Metroid-Squadron
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That is most likely the case. We're yet to see if the PC version was saved from these cuts :/
I found PS3 footage with better brightness settings. Here's a somewhat updated comparison:
No matter how you cut it the game took a huge hit in the lighting department. Environment shadows and AO are gone.
Curious_George
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Which is probably good because it seems like there are a lot of stats you'll need to distribute points in now. Even if you focus on just strength or dex without magic it seems like you'll have to spread it a little thin since vig, end, vit, and adapt all also seem necessary.
I agree with you on the lag aspect. I like my games to feel responsive and snappy. Having enemies that teleport around, don't get damaged even though you see the hit animation is really detrimental to the game. The effects of lag are even worse because of my geographical location (NZ). I really hope DSII will be a lot better lag wise, otherwise I might resort to playing offline.
It takes a lot less to level now though. Average SL by end of game will be higher than the previous games.
SargerusBR
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Yo!
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Nailed it.
First time with Dark Souls was when my bro and I got it from a redbox (he got Skyrim and I Dark Souls). One of my best decisions ever.
I loved the atmosphere and exploration. The challenge felt great and was a breath of fresh air. Then there was the story which I slowly understood more and more until it all clicked together.
It's one of my favorite games ever. I've got the CE for 2 preordered and paid off. I've been avoiding seeing any gameplay aside from the trailers. Gonna be a hell of an adventure.
Praise the Sun!
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Nailed it.
First time with Dark Souls was when my bro and I got it from a redbox (he got Skyrim and I Dark Souls). One of my best decisions ever.
I loved the atmosphere and exploration. The challenge felt great and was a breath of fresh air. Then there was the story which I slowly understood more and more until it all clicked together.
It's one of my favorite games ever. I've got the CE for 2 preordered and paid off. I've been avoiding seeing any gameplay aside from the trailers. Gonna be a hell of an adventure.
Praise the Sun!
Psycho_Mantis
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This is the second time you have had to say this right? People just won't listen. Its why I'm wary to even visit this OT because most of the discussion is about the stream.
Yeah the MK demo was that exact place and it looked amazing just like it did in the reveal (was playing on PS3). What happened?
Red Liquorice
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I don't want any specific details or spoilers, but I'm curious as to if anyone who's playing the game already has run into any NPC invaders, and if so, just like PvP, I assume they would be far more difficult to miss this time what with hollow invasions?
I'm very disappointed with From if that lighting fuck-up is real. I don't play Dark Souls for the graphics and I don't even care much about the downgrade, but a last minute change without notice is basically lying to your loyal customers.
I saw what looked like an NPC invasion in one of VaatiVidya's videos. The name certainly seemed to be NPC style.
jim2point0
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That is most likely the case. We're yet to see if the PC version was saved from these cuts :/
I found PS3 footage with better brightness settings. Here's a somewhat updated comparison:
No matter how you cut it the game took a huge hit in the lighting department. Environment shadows and AO are gone.
Duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuude.
That better be for the console versions only. I was so excited to see that lighting in motion.
The_Hitcher89
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I got a shift swap just so I could get Friday and Saturday off to play this. My anticipation is reaching dangerous levels
Curious_George
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It would be a strange thing to change unless they just couldn't manage to get the new lighting on old consoles without significant framerate issues. It seemed from interviews and other pre-release info that the new engine was kind of designed with the lighting changes in mind. Unless they found it really problematic I imagine we'll see it all in the PC version though.
I wouldn't bet on it. This exact thing happened to Oblivion if you remember, they pulled the realtime shadows out of the PC version as well because they didn't want to have to support two different code paths for lighting going forward.
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