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Dark Souls II PC |OT| Give us smooth, Give us silky
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SweetJohnnyCage
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Keep in mind she has to stay alive in order for it to count. Same goes for all NPCs. They recently buffed her to where she can get hit 500 times and still not die. Just in case she dies, just feather out of the bossroom, rest at the bonfire to reset the area, and try again.
They're all just phenomenal games, totally distinct from one another but with common threads. There's really no best place to start. DS2 has an incredibly active online multiplayer presence right now, which is an awesome experience you wouldn't get in the other two.
Orthogonal
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DS2 may be a better starting point due to the high volume of online activity, but DS1 is masterpiece material. Just take the game slow, learn from mistakes and know that it just takes time and practice to overcome the steep learning curve.
Thats what I'm trying to do, but the
smelter demon
Might as well start with Dark Souls 2 at this point.
The story in the game is made somewhat irrelevant by the time jump, and you only get as much out of the lore as you put into it. Meaning, you have to dig quite thoroughly for information.
Dark Souls I is also likely to see a Steamworks conversion in the coming months, which will provide more stable play than the current GFWL DRM.
apieceofstrange
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Thanks for the quick replies. I was worried about the status of DS1 now that GFWL is defunct.
Will probably pick up DS2 with the 25% off on greenmangaming and jump in this weekend.
Will probably pick up DS2 with the 25% off on greenmangaming and jump in this weekend.
bob_arctor
Tough_Smooth
All over the Sunbro shirt.
There really needs to be a scaling or mantling mechanic in the next game. It'sdownright absurd that I can kill horrendous creatures ten times my size, but it's simply beyond my capabilities to scale a waist-high barrier or wall.
Silly.
Also, I royally fucked my ability to rush to the boss in Last Bastille because I raised one of the gates that lets the guards through. Ugh.
Is the parrying dagger worth investing in for a DEX build? It's so weak, so it's not useful for dual-wielding, and it's not worthy substituting a shield with.
Silly.
Also, I royally fucked my ability to rush to the boss in Last Bastille because I raised one of the gates that lets the guards through. Ugh.
Is the parrying dagger worth investing in for a DEX build? It's so weak, so it's not useful for dual-wielding, and it's not worthy substituting a shield with.
Don't unsheathe the sword.
I had my hollow bro with me and he pissed them off. I actually beat them at that point, but then was pushed off a ledge. Had trouble getting by them again due to the narrow corridor had to fight them in.
xBladeM6x
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Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Well it would make sense to go DeS to DkS and then to DkS2 which would be cheaper.
Since you didn't get into DeS try DkS?
It was in Demon's Souls, lol
speaking of itchy greatswords, all those NPCs in Majula man... Im bummed you get punished for killing npcs before going into NG+, that was the best part in the first
Take your lumps sinner. Blue Sentinels are ready to invade!
Admiral Woofington
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I just want to clarify that those green dudes drop
titanite shards. Not large titanite shards or chunks, but standard regular shards. Unless larger ones are rare drops.
In my experience as to how farming goes in this game, as far as I am currently, the order is:
Titanite shards-
you get them from the green hammer dudes in Harvest Valley. There should be at least 7-8 nearby the mine bonfire and the lower earthern peak bonfire
Large Titanite shards-
I'm pretty sure the hand monsters that spawn from the pools in black gulch drop these.
Titanite chunks-
Honestly best way is to join Bell Bros] as everytime you successfully kill the world's player, you get a titanite chunk. Also not sure how it works but if you talk to the covenant spokesperson after killing a decent amount of them he seems to give you titanite slabs.
Titanite slabs- Either in the same covenant after a certain amount of successful invasions or I don't know how but you can probably buy them after a certain point.
Twinkling titanite- this has been a pain because nobody I find seems to drop them where I currently am in the game
3/4 great souls and headed to shaded woods
Apparently Chloanne doesn't start selling unlimited versions of the better titanite stuff until you clear certain areas. With the one I just cleared she apparently is now selling regular shards unlimited.
CountAntonius
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You rang? Had to use a Bonfire Ascetic to get that chest piece. This is my favorite set up.
Head to the third bonfire, run up the ramp and into the building to the far left and down the stairs. The enemies won't follow you.
bodine1231
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Where should I be going with my stats now? I just beat the
for the third great soul. My primary weapon is a Claymore +8.
spider boss
Dragon1893
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Most of my PVP encounters have been ruined by lag.
CountAntonius
Member
I've probably had a few hundred matches by now and maybe it has to do with where I live and turning cross region play off but I've had bad lag in maybe 10 matches or less.
xBladeM6x
Member
Where should I be going with my stats now? I just beat thefor the third great soul. My primary weapon is a Claymore +8.spider boss
ADP to 20.
JoeyJungle
Banned
Where should I be going with my stats now? I just beat thefor the third great soul. My primary weapon is a Claymore +8.spider boss
Holy shit put some points into adaptability. Until your agility is at least in the low 90s. After you're at a good AGL I'd spend more points on endurance and vitality. Also, you should be able to get the claymore to +10 by now unless you've been spending titanite upgrading other weapons as well.
Oh and it would also up your damage a lot if you switched to and upgraded a weapon that has better scaling with Strength. Large Club would be really good since it has S scaling after being upgraded I think, but the normal Club also has A scaling and attacks quickly.
Go straight across the bridge from the bonfire and then hang a left.
Omegasquash
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Might have just bought a Sunbro T for me and my son.
When we go grocery shopping now, it will be in Jolly Cooperation!
When we go grocery shopping now, it will be in Jolly Cooperation!
PedroLumpy
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This has probably been mentioned a billion times, but soul memory is really bad implementation of a good idea. Bring back the Bonfire stockpile and base matchmaking off the soul value of what people are carrying with them + soul level. Junk stored in the stockpile won't count against you, and it allows you to control your level (somewhat) for coop and PvP meta.
I get what they're trying to do, but I was going around buying all the armor sets etc. and got a bit of a surprise when I hit Bell Keepers.
I get what they're trying to do, but I was going around buying all the armor sets etc. and got a bit of a surprise when I hit Bell Keepers.
MMBosstones86
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I've seen a lot of the ADP/Agl talk. What's more important : ADP to 20 or AGL to 95-100?
You've been saying that for a while man. I want to see the receipts.
You've been saying that for a while man. I want to see the receipts.
don't stop believin....
Admiral Woofington
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What good is adaptability besides getting more agility and resistances? I haven't put any points into that whatsoever.
AlphaProspector
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So, had quite the rough time with Royal Rat Vanguard. Finally beat that mohawk asshole but then fell to my death in the pits, lost 20k souls and had to quit, ugh. Super pissed off. I KNEW I should've gone back to Majula to spend those souls. Knowing Soul Memory will only ruin me further and further...
I cleared the Belfry Luna gargoyles and I'm at a crossroads. Where to go now? I began delving into Harvest Valley but those asshole giants dudes with a little knight riding them simply one shot me so I guess I shouldn't be there for now. Then I didn't fully explore Huntsman Copse and I can't find another Yore thingie to un-petrify that girl you need to give clothes to. I unpetrified the other dude at the Bastille...
Feeling a bit overwhelmed at the moment.
I cleared the Belfry Luna gargoyles and I'm at a crossroads. Where to go now? I began delving into Harvest Valley but those asshole giants dudes with a little knight riding them simply one shot me so I guess I shouldn't be there for now. Then I didn't fully explore Huntsman Copse and I can't find another Yore thingie to un-petrify that girl you need to give clothes to. I unpetrified the other dude at the Bastille...
Feeling a bit overwhelmed at the moment.
The main thing it does is add additional invincibility frames to your rolls, so unless you're a greatshield tank it's pretty essential.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Where should I be going with my stats now? I just beat thefor the third great soul. My primary weapon is a Claymore +8.spider boss
VIG, VIT and END
You will have a full on STR build. You don't need ADP, don't waste points on it.
AGL is a secondary stat. ADP will raise it (as will ATT, but slower). 20ADP is a good first cap.
Melee only with slow weapons... ADP is very useful on a STR build. Unless you're a fatrolling tank or something.
I believe that's it. If you're playing someone who uses Spell Slots it's not as necessary since ATT raises Agi as well.
chaobreaker
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So I finally made it to
So for I'm feeling Dark Souls 2 handled the freedom of exploration way better than Dark Souls 1 did. I think I went through every mandatory area thus far and I can already imagine a completely different order I could go in my next run. This could really freshen up the experience. Granted I appreciated how Lordran was all interconnected and such but I honestly didn't like how the world was essentially divided by the bell tower quest and the lord souls quest.
Drangleic Castle.
So for I'm feeling Dark Souls 2 handled the freedom of exploration way better than Dark Souls 1 did. I think I went through every mandatory area thus far and I can already imagine a completely different order I could go in my next run. This could really freshen up the experience. Granted I appreciated how Lordran was all interconnected and such but I honestly didn't like how the world was essentially divided by the bell tower quest and the lord souls quest.
JoeyJungle
Banned
It also raises poise in combination with endurance. For every point of endurance and adaptability your poise gets raised (so if you put +10 in endurance and +10 in adaptability, your poise would be raised 10 times, but if you put +10 in endurance and +1 in adaptability your poise would be raised once).
But agility is boss, I don't know how people use flasks in fights with the base agility. It also makes rolling feel less clunky.
Psycho_Mantis
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ADP is the most useless stat in the game. People just don't seem to know it.
You don't need ADP to roll fast, have fast movement or dodge roll. I do all of those things with 3 ADP.
JoeyJungle
Banned
Sub-70% all rolling speeds are the same. The only difference is the distance rolled.
Edit: Animation doesn't change, gives you more i-frames https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrrymfvwDv0
Adry9
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OMG need one.
LordOfChaos
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That oversight makes navigating around menus a PITA.
Jackben
bitch I'm taking calls.
This is not true at all. Low adaptability gives you very few i-frames for your rolls, so you are highly susceptible to getting clipped or knocked out of your roll. Just about the only thing accurate here is that roll speed and length is not affected by adaptability: these are determined by equip load.
Technoweirdo
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Looking at the complaints about Soul Memory, I have to wonder exactly how bad it is in practice. With all the souls I get through co-op, you'd think I'd be ineligible to summon others anymore, but up until I beat the game and had a few optional bosses left, I never had much difficulty getting summoned.
Edit: Rolling with 40 ADP / 110 AGL here. Tried 100 AGL as a mage (All AGL through ATT) and I swear the extra 10 AGL makes a huge difference in roll timings. Then again, I normally play as a suicidal fists-only maniac so maybe playing a mage threw me off my game, so to speak.
Edit: Rolling with 40 ADP / 110 AGL here. Tried 100 AGL as a mage (All AGL through ATT) and I swear the extra 10 AGL makes a huge difference in roll timings. Then again, I normally play as a suicidal fists-only maniac so maybe playing a mage threw me off my game, so to speak.
Wondered the same thing! Messages of "Pointless" everywhere!
ADP doesn't affect roll speed, nobody is making that claim. ADP increases Agility, Agility increases the number of invincible frames in your roll, not the speed or distance of the roll.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVSUDacqsl8
You don't need those i-frames at all.
Think of it like this. Low ADP, you can dodge fine, window is small. High ADP window slightly bigger. If you get the timing right which is not hard at all you can save yourself from wasting 20+ points.
Omegasquash
Member
Where should I be going with my stats now? I just beat thefor the third great soul. My primary weapon is a Claymore +8.spider boss
I find your lack of Faith disturbing...
That said, VGR, VIT, END. Go full meat.
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