If Smelter is too tough, you can come back to him later. There is a shortcut past Smelter for a reason. No shame in skipping for now and cleaning up later when you're better equipped.
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If Smelter is too tough, you can come back to him later. There is a shortcut past Smelter for a reason. No shame in skipping for now and cleaning up later when you're better equipped.
Edit: Sorry, I misread you, didn't see you already switched to Falchion.
What kind of miracles?
you're hitting a giant metal thing with a sword. strike weapons are gonna be at least a bit better off
Mt Heart Attack
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What are your stats? If you're using a falchion you'd want to have decent dex otherwise it will deal very little damage.
Also, the cool thing about Dark Souls 2 when compared to the first game is that, if you don't like where you're going, you can warp out of there and go someplace else. I don't know how many great souls you've collected so far but you need four, so you could just leave and try again when you feel stronger. When I first arrived to the
Harvest Valley
dark ball throwing guys
Shaded Woods
Or you know, just skip him.
Smelter Demon
Oh there is? I didn't know that. Where?
Stats: Basically all in the first two and ADP. 1 on dex. Only used fire sword so far.
I was mistaken! No miracles apparently. Sorcery, pyromancy, and ring.
Orthogonal
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I think he meant Sorcery. He sells Great Magic weapon and gives Forbidden Sun and Unleash Magic as quest rewards.
hey_it's_that_dog
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Instead of going into his door, just keep exploring the huge room you're in. Get to the back end of it and you can proceed through the rest of the level.
This is probably a dumb question, but are your weapons broken? What level are you at?
Theres
a big furnace near Smelter. Turn it off and take the ladder inside the furnace up.
Phew... you scared me there for a sec. I'll just get that other stuff in NG+.
lol, of course not! I may not fully understand all the rpg systems in DSII, but I'm not dumb enough to fight with broken weapons.
If you succeed in co-op it turns you human and refreshes spells, estus, health, durability, etc etc. You can use the baby soap stone and turn human pretty easily
Beating a boss in co-op will turn actually you human; you don't get the effigy item. You can use the soapstone hollow. I really like how they've incentivized doing so in all the Souls games.
If you just want some quick effigies, consider burning a bonfire ascetic at the first Forest of the Fallen Giants bonfire. You can collect 5 effigies from the chest in the beginning again, and another one by the Heide Knight. The enemies will be in NG+ difficulty (and NG++ when you get to NG+), but using an ascetic at this particular bonfire doesn't reset any bosses and the enemies are still easy. You also only need to deal with them if you want the effigy by the Heide Knight, but it's worth killing him again anyway for a chance at a gear drop.
Mt Heart Attack
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Mhm, unless you're going for a magic build you definitely want to put points into strength or dexterity. Personally, I went to 40 str as soon as I could, I hadn't even reached 20 in any other stat. That's important because weapon damage scales with those two stats, by how much and with which of the two depending on the weapon.
Not sure if you already knew this basic stuff, I apologize if you did. I certainly didn't when I first played Dark Souls 1 and I had to figure it out the hard way (i.e. by getting my ass kicked).
Dragon1893
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Use the soapstone to help others and stop wasting effigies. You don't even need to help them defeat a boss, killing a few normal enemies is enough for you to be returned to your world as a human.
Which chasm are you doing? Shaded Woods is the easiest.
Admiral Woofington
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Ok guys I need advice. I was having the time of my life in PvP until I met.. let's call him the douche.
The douche got beaten by me multiple times. Until he realized the best way to fight me is to fucking dodge every attack I do until I give up and get bored. I couldn't hit him because he always dodged and he never attacked. Literally. I couldn't touch him and he was playing the waiting game. Poor sportsmanship, yadda yadda, what's a good strategy for beating people like this? I have a greatsword. I'm considering getting an avelyn for situations like these where it's hard to dodge without getting hit. Any suggestions? As you know greatswords don't have the best moveset to fight people like these. Should I get one of those spears that has the running three spin move?
The douche got beaten by me multiple times. Until he realized the best way to fight me is to fucking dodge every attack I do until I give up and get bored. I couldn't hit him because he always dodged and he never attacked. Literally. I couldn't touch him and he was playing the waiting game. Poor sportsmanship, yadda yadda, what's a good strategy for beating people like this? I have a greatsword. I'm considering getting an avelyn for situations like these where it's hard to dodge without getting hit. Any suggestions? As you know greatswords don't have the best moveset to fight people like these. Should I get one of those spears that has the running three spin move?
Immolation, or something from the butterfly gear set. If he keeps dodging and isn't attacking at all, you only need to be near them and then you'll poison/damage them.
wow. I'm an idiot..I thought you had to do it from drangleic..thanks
There's a gif for this:
Try out other STR weapons that have horizontal attacks / different move sets. I'm a big fan of the Mastadon Greatsword, Lion Greataxe, and Grym Greathammer.
Admiral Woofington
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That's a pretty good idea. I'm so used to not using AoE spells that I completely removed them from my list. Maybe getting immolation or something similar would be the best since he still stuck near me. But poison would be fantastic since not many folks carry poison moss.
KoreanBarbecue
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The dogs in the Lost Bastille can drop Human Effigies.
sounds like his tactics prevailed
Pretty much my understanding as well.
It's your turn to learn his dodging patterns, Admiral
Admiral Woofington
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No. He's a douche because he would rather wait until the match was over (literally two of the matches we had the timer end). He wasn't attempting to win by catching me off guard. He was attempting to win until I got bored. When like 5-10 minutes pass of this guy dodging and not even attempting to attack whatsoever, that's not adapting to my playstyle. That's him being boring. I would literally stand still and look at my menu for minutes at a time and he'd just stand still and look at me. He could've used that chance to cast spells but he just stared at me, obviously enjoying the fact I was getting bored. He wasn't in it to win. He was in it to waste my time. It's not like I particularly wanted to battle him, he just seemed to be the only guy I got paired with. I can't emphasize enough that I willingly left openings for him to attack me. To do ANYTHING but dodge the whole match and berate me.
Pretty much my understanding as well.
It's your turn to learn his dodging patterns, Admiral
It's not dodging patterns that were the issue. It was invincibility frames. Many times I pretended to strike so he would dodge, and even then when he dodged and I attacked no damage occurred (Even with the sound).
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You don't have the ring of binding?
Admiral Woofington
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How effective is katana in beating people with loads of invincibility frames? Again I doubt I'll fight somebody like this again, but this was more frustrating than the dual avelyn "press trigger to win" folks because at least those the battle ended quickly and I could move on.
You should buff a Katana and press R1 a lot, make sure to run at them when you press R1 too. There's no amount of Agility that will give you i-frames for phantom range.
So I mistakenly joined the awful murderous lot that is Bellbros Covenant, hoping it would bring an end to the invasions. Nope. Then I got called to invade a dude and the other bellbro who invaded dropped a care package, I think? Shitload of stuff on the ground, including 11 effigies. So I got something out of it, at least.
That place is broken as hell. Getting invaded by players who are stronger than bosses I've faced so far, kind of like the game doesn't give a single fuck about who invades you there.
That place is broken as hell
. Getting invaded by players who are stronger than bosses I've faced so far, kind of like the game doesn't give a single fuck about who invades you there.Admiral Woofington
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I might just make a katana and only whoop it out when I meet people like this. I'm sure I have one and I already have a lot of titanite, might as well do that next time I play.
Bellbros seem awful until you realize you're gonna need a lot of titanite chunks. And each time you succesfully invade someone, they give you one. Then the hypocrisy for 90% of people who called them assholes comes up haha. Myself included of course.
I think about 70% of people that I die to in BoB do this
I do need chunks, I've got more titanite slabs than chunks, shit's crazy. Is Belltower optional?
The lag is mightier than the sword
Well, finished
went to the area after that. Since I finished the
should I go back there and continue through the area? I know the Blighttown-ish clone area further from where I just finished has another area or two behind it for
but I'm not sure if I'm equipped to deal with that bullshit right now.
I saw the ladder leading down to
and NOPE.avi'd.
Huntman's Copse
ruins boss in Lost Bastille
A Majula citizen
I saw the ladder leading down to
a sea of green
So Lucatiel never made it in the boss fog for Smelter Demon, subsequently I beat him by myself on NG+.
I could still see her name outside the fog, think it counted for the quest?
EDIT: I should be fine since I succeeded in her other three summons anyways.
Just go wherever you want. You are equipped to take on any area.
I could still see her name outside the fog, think it counted for the quest?
EDIT: I should be fine since I succeeded in her other three summons anyways.
Just go wherever you want. You are equipped to take on any area.
Admiral Woofington
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The Belfrys? Yes completely optional. But everybody steps into them. If you need chunks and you're part of bellbros, just put on the ring and wait in any of the game levels (besides majula). As long as you're not overleveled you should be constantly called into action to the point you'll have 99 problems but a chunk ain't one
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