Guys, here are my stats atm. I really had no build in mind when I was playing. Just put a lot in str because fuck it why not. What other stats should I focus on? I kinda wanted some magic or pyromancy to fall back on for those enemies that are weak to that sort of thing, but I don't really know where to go from there. Tips/suggestions welcomed.
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Dark Souls II: Scholar of the First Sin |OT| Your weapons are weak, old man
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Somnium986
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I swear the number of times I get back stabbed from the front in PvP is infuriating.
Wow, how in the world did you get that far with base adaptability? Have you found dodging things to be annoying? I'd suggest pumping that ASAP if so (until your agility is about 100).
As for magic, unless you're willing to dedicate a good bit of your soul levels to it I'd just keep on with your melee build. You'll need to pump int (or faith if you want miracles) AND attunement (for slots and casting speed). I'm not sure it's something worth doing half-heartedly. You could always get an x-bow and elemental arrows and use those for stuff weak to a particular element.
Iced_Eagle
Member
If you're going melee, I think you will appreciate more adaptability. Your agility will get higher to make it easier to dodge, and it also increases your poise, which allows you to trade hits easier in the event that you do get hit (aka, you'll get staggered less).
I would also consider taking Vigor to 20. I believe that's when the soft cap comes into play, so you should get a decent chunk of health to that point. However, considering your base adaptability is so low, I would say this is secondary because the better agility/poise should help with survivability.
-Drop a small soapstone and get a free repair when you're done
ThatChairMan
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My first character had base ADP/AGL, since I didn't know what it did when I first played. It really isn't too difficult, just that I couldn't rely on i-framing through moves most of the time and actually needed to move out of the range of a move, or block. A good shield really helped.
Vaudeville Villain
Member
so was the hit box/detection never fixed in this game? I play pvp and people hit me when the weapons never touch me. It's pretty annoying.
Also, what rapiers are great? I'm using chaos rapier, is there another that is better?
Also, what rapiers are great? I'm using chaos rapier, is there another that is better?
usp84
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I think you should level up ADP in order to have at least 105 AGL to get the same roll adn irframes as dark souls 1.
I was really disappointed with the Kirk hammer in Bloodborne
I was expecting it to dish out huge damage. But it was relatively weak compared to all other weapons in the game, unless you fully charge R2 attack.QueenOfThorns
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FUCK YES I FUCKING DID IT FIRST TRY* FIRST GOD DANG TRY IM THE BEST
AROUND
NO ONES EVER GONNA BRING ME DOWN
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AROUND
NO ONES EVER GONNA BRING ME DOWN
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If you ignore the 800 tries yesterday. those aren't canon
Relaxed Muscle
Member
I remember that I wrecked V
as a dex, no shield build. But damn, as a caster that took many tries, the sad thing is that I had to go melee, because all my spells where doing shit damage.
endrick
UpDownLeftRight
Banned
Congrats! He was a nasty fight I found. Probably one of the few where dying is almost mandatory to learn his moves. Since I've played before most bosses have gone down in one go but this guy still got 10+ deaths out of me. Fighting him with a slow heavy weapon is something I won't be looking to do again in a hurry.
Your ADP is way too low, you need more poise so that you'll be able to trade blows. (Raise to 20, 25)
Then raise your vigor, you need more hp, depending who you face you'll be killed in 3, 4 blows (especially in NG+)
Yeah, I just ran from the starting area and wound up there. It's not the path that leads to the Forest of Fallen Giants, but it is on the path to Heide's Tower of Flame. It was the first path I found so I simply took it.
After thinking about it, I think the weapon breaking stuff is an interesting change. I actually have to think about repair powder now, and I actually bring multiple weapons that are being upgraded around with me so I can switch when one gets close to breaking. This as opposed to never thinking about weapons breaking at all.
BTW, have they made any changes to soul memory? I really hated that.
BTW, have they made any changes to soul memory? I really hated that.
cpp_is_king
Member
Spent some more time with Dark Souls 2 over the past few days. At first I thought Bloodborne was just hands down better, but after spending more time with Dark Souls 2, I'm a little conflicted. I think both games did a few things amazingly well, and a few things not so well.
Bloodborne's top 3 things are, in my opinion:
1) The fast paced combat
2) The connected and masterfully designed world
3) The presence of shortcuts.
And Bloodborne's worst 3 things are, in my opinion:
1) Lack of build diversity
2) The mostly linear path at which you progress the game
3) The lack of replayability.
With Dark Souls 2 it's literally like the exact opposite. The best 3 things about Dark Souls 2 are
1) The amazing build diversity
2) The openness of the world and the different ways you can progress through things in completely different orders
3) The immense replayability and new things you can find in NG+
while the worst 3 things are
1) How disconnected the world feels -- no sense of spatial awareness. Where is Earthen Peak in relation to Heide's Tower of Flame? I coudln't tell you. I mean I can tell you how to get from A to B, but you just don't have that same feeling of connectedness.
2) The combat. Using a goddamn estus flask makes me want to rage my fucking eyes out. Stop standing there you motherfucker, drink and run!
3) The lack of shortcuts. Once I've cleared every enemy in an area and gotten every piece of loot, I want all this shit out of my way and I just want to make a boss run. But the placement of enemies means that often you *have* to kill them or they will gank you on the way to the boss. It's enraging. I've killed this shit 10 times already, just stop it. I know you can farm the enemies out, but that's such a chore. Just give me a shortcut so I can run to the boss.
Can you imagine if Bloodborne 2 or Dark Souls 3 had the top 3 of both of these lists? I think it would honestly be the best game ever made.
Bloodborne's top 3 things are, in my opinion:
1) The fast paced combat
2) The connected and masterfully designed world
3) The presence of shortcuts.
And Bloodborne's worst 3 things are, in my opinion:
1) Lack of build diversity
2) The mostly linear path at which you progress the game
3) The lack of replayability.
With Dark Souls 2 it's literally like the exact opposite. The best 3 things about Dark Souls 2 are
1) The amazing build diversity
2) The openness of the world and the different ways you can progress through things in completely different orders
3) The immense replayability and new things you can find in NG+
while the worst 3 things are
1) How disconnected the world feels -- no sense of spatial awareness. Where is Earthen Peak in relation to Heide's Tower of Flame? I coudln't tell you. I mean I can tell you how to get from A to B, but you just don't have that same feeling of connectedness.
2) The combat. Using a goddamn estus flask makes me want to rage my fucking eyes out. Stop standing there you motherfucker, drink and run!
3) The lack of shortcuts. Once I've cleared every enemy in an area and gotten every piece of loot, I want all this shit out of my way and I just want to make a boss run. But the placement of enemies means that often you *have* to kill them or they will gank you on the way to the boss. It's enraging. I've killed this shit 10 times already, just stop it. I know you can farm the enemies out, but that's such a chore. Just give me a shortcut so I can run to the boss.
Can you imagine if Bloodborne 2 or Dark Souls 3 had the top 3 of both of these lists? I think it would honestly be the best game ever made.
SonicXtreme
Member
i like it too, forced me to use 3 weapons as soon as i found the first vendor and could get the axe and club. the only thing i dislike about it is the huge 'weapon almost going to break' or whatever it says alert usually comes on ....the hit that breaks the weapon. grrr. but if you watch the repair bar its kind of cool. although i do dislike that for pvp......its a bad mechanic. basically bc you play pve and power up a ton of weapons then in pvp you dont have to switch weapons so those who powered up less weapons are at a lower soul memory and have an advantage in most pvp meets. but that's really miniscule and nitpicky not something anyone who isn't anal would ever pay attention to lol
Omega Ultimus
Member
Forlorn armor and greatsword. Avelyn, too, but don't use it because you'd be a big meanie in PvP.
KiteGr
Member
As I'm playing the game for the first time, and having beaten 5-6 bosses I realised something.
This game is nowhere near as good as the original Dark Souls and Demon's Souls.
While there are some technical improvements and I completely understand their intentions behind the low Item durability and the fast travel, the game appears... uninspired.
The best Ideas are riped from the last 2 games, and besides those, I'm having trouble remembering most of the areas, area names, characters and bosses I've met.
The majority of the enemies and bosses appear to be "Dudes in Armor", sometimes with little variety within each stage, and I completely understand why they felt the need to rearrange some enemies and items, beyond the need to keep the game fresh.
After finishing each stage, I usually take a look at some walk-through of the original version of the stage, and I realized how often those stages kept repeating the same enemies. Placing a different type enemy somewhere on a stage in the new version where every other enemy is exactly the same type helps a bit to break the ice, but that doesn't help much when the rest of the game appears to be so un-interesting.
This game is nowhere near as good as the original Dark Souls and Demon's Souls.
While there are some technical improvements and I completely understand their intentions behind the low Item durability and the fast travel, the game appears... uninspired.
The best Ideas are riped from the last 2 games, and besides those, I'm having trouble remembering most of the areas, area names, characters and bosses I've met.
The majority of the enemies and bosses appear to be "Dudes in Armor", sometimes with little variety within each stage, and I completely understand why they felt the need to rearrange some enemies and items, beyond the need to keep the game fresh.
After finishing each stage, I usually take a look at some walk-through of the original version of the stage, and I realized how often those stages kept repeating the same enemies. Placing a different type enemy somewhere on a stage in the new version where every other enemy is exactly the same type helps a bit to break the ice, but that doesn't help much when the rest of the game appears to be so un-interesting.
Moon_frogger
Member
Welcome to the party! If you have the option give demons souls a try. Many people consider it their favorite, even after experience the improvements and conveniences of the other games. There's a purity to its design that is kind of missing in the others. It's certainly still my favorite, in almost every regard. The whole series is fantastic though!
Have you been dodging very much at all? If you have and have been doing so successfully, you must have great timing with your adp being so low.
If you aren't really dodging at all and are turtling behind a giant shield (which would make sense given your stats), I'd put the next 5 levels into vigor for an additional 150 HP before moving on from there.
What weapon and shield are you using?
Omega Ultimus
Member
Just run to the fog gate. The casters shouldn't be able to hit you in time.
*Tries to use resonant soul, has no chime
Fuck my life >_>
Where was the best chime for hexes again? I've been upgrading the sunsomething staff which I read was the best for hexes, but I need a chime
Fuck my life >_>
Where was the best chime for hexes again? I've been upgrading the sunsomething staff which I read was the best for hexes, but I need a chime
Yes, i did it. I was just pissed off. Sorry.
Typical frustration rant post. Souls style.
Oh god, just arrived at
undead crypt. Knights everywhere. How is the hall leading to vendrik? Two hundred knights plus casters
Moon_frogger
Member
It depends on what weapon you're using. Try using a whip or for special self loathing try dual wielding certain low durability weapons that have certain swiping animations that tend to hit the ground. You will understand.
bobawesome
Member
Going back to Bloodborne last night was rough after a week of Scholar of the First Sin. Everything felt so janky.
SonicXtreme
Member
Wheres my casters at
Stop using melee you bastards!
nah after bloodborne i have no interest in dealing with this series' clunky ass magic system. magic for a buff or a buff and a pyro is ok but dark was so OP when i beat this game first time i puke in my mouth when thinking of magic. bc they nerfed lightning to be crap for offense, and magic is kind of cool but then you realize dark is almost always stronger so regular magic is just outdated and i've never been able to give it fair stance in DS2.
i'm gonna stream all night if anyone would like to chat souls with me, or anything else. gotta hit up bright for the last primal and as always throw my hat at pvp if anyone wants to fight, iirc i'm a little above 550k SM on ps4
http://www.twitch.tv/sonicxtreme/
Who in the world thought it was a good idea to have youfarm 50 loyce souls for Alsanna's soul? I have every bit of item discovery and I'm eating rusty coins and barely getting one every other fight. I'd just kill her, but I want the armor set too.
Whats this?
Who in the world thought it was a good idea to have youfarm 50 loyce souls for Alsanna's soul? I have every bit of item discovery and I'm eating rusty coins and barely getting one every other fight. I'd just kill her, but I want the armor set too.
Supposedly cooping raises the drop rate. Dunno if its true, but I got multiple souls every run.
Schweinehund
Member
Amana is not so bad if you use a bow to pull the mobs.
A...sidequest? I guess? In the 3rd DLC.
Oi, is my lack of caring about Co-Op going to bite me in the ass? I'm like lvl 225 and 10 million soul level haha. Well, I still get invaded at this level so perhaps I'll get lucky. I'll give it a shot.
Can you elaborate please?
Inside the final boss arena are these 3 mirrors that will spit out some dudes called Charred Loyce Warriors. They have a small chance to drop their souls. As you collect 50 of them this NPC outside the boss area will incrementally give you pieces of an armor set. At 50 she'll give you her soul/unlock the ability to buy the Ivory King set.
adampa1006
Banned
My first time playing Dark Souls on PC. Beat Dark Souls 1 on PS3, got 2 on PS3 but never played it much....holy shit 60FPS is just unreal and a completely different experience. Great port.
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