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Dark Souls II: Scholar of the First Sin |OT| Your weapons are weak, old man
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Bad encounter design? I could say the same about an area or two in Bloodborne, but it never ruined the quality on the whole for me.
molnizzle
Member
Yeah... I don't understand what's going on there.
Ah well. Not done with Bloodborne yet anyway.
Orthogonal
Member
I didn't see if this was answered, but is there a discount offered to PC if you already own the original?
$20 off if you own the base game, an additional $10 off if you own all the DLC.
Orthogonal
Member
Cool, that's better than nothing. Still think its a bit steep, but I am tempted.
Crimsonclaw111
Member
How's the new enemy placement?
Deified Data
Banned
All the remixed encounters I've seen have just been additional hordes as opposed to intelligent placement. I open and hoping to be proven wrong.
Sorry I got it wrong, $20 off if you own the base game (So $30), and $10 more off if you own the DLC ($20).
Never forget:
Still one of my favourite areas in the game as it evoked the more horror-like aspects of DeS. Genuinely terrifying, especially on PC.
Not the prettiest place, but one of the coolest mechanics and 'WTF-moments' the game has.
AzureSkies
Member
Never forget:
Thanks for reminding me of the area I nicknamed Silent Hill.
I hate that place so much lol
Primethius
Banned
I hated it, absolutely hated it. Not due to the actual place but because it was utterly incompatible with the mods I used.
It was a choice between the game looking meh vs not being able to see while the game looks good.
I chose the latter. The area was practically white but I had the path memorized!
Orochinagis
Member
Is heavily connected to Dark Souls 1, in a wrong way, it takes the ideas from Dark Sousl 2 and goes to a completely new direction omiting key lores of the first game.
Dark Souls 2 is 1000 years or more after Dark Souls 1 and 5 cicles already passed so you are in the 6 cicle.
BB looks like past gen for me , have an amazing art direction but those textures....
Hype, you can wait for a cheap price or embrace yourself to the dark
That looks very nice!Just a taste:
clipping has always been there since demon's but it never bothered me too much, it's jarring however when you realize that sometimes there is no clipping in that spot and you hit a wall with your weapon, which nullifies your attack.
I fought those pigs a lot and actually they only have one attack where you could think of "horrible hit detection". when they charge you.
I'm positive that they follow your movements with that attack, so it might also be that your timing needs to be great and not that their hit detection is garbage. I'm not too sure though.
Orochinagis
Member
70% the same, some starting areas got filled with less enemies but with different enemies from advanced areas, and the Heides knights were moved to Heides tower
molnizzle
Member
Do we know if this version is fixing the 60fps double durability issue on PC? Or PS4/XBO for that matter.
Ah shit, I hadn't thought of that. 6 players now too.
Well damn. Might be time to load up the UK account on my PS4. =P
Ah shit, I hadn't thought of that. 6 players now too.
Well damn. Might be time to load up the UK account on my PS4. =P
Orochinagis
Member
It have the durability glitch yet it not confirmed if that was already resolved
ItsTheNew
I believe any game made before 1997 is "essentially cave man art."
It wasn't fixed, they said they'll get around to it later (really.)
Deified Data
Banned
Nope.
Crimsonclaw111
Member
Outside of the bundled DLC, sounds like a pointless PC upgrade then.
molnizzle
Member
LegalEagleMike
Member
dont worry, someone will be along soon to tell you why it is a feature and not a bug.
DannyDanger
Member
DS1:
Why is this gif so fluid
Veritigo_X
Member
Freedom = $1.05
Banned
probably from the PC version with DSfix
LegalEagleMike
Member
lol yep, not sure in this thread, but in the day leading up to this OT some people were doing so in the announcement thread.
air jordans for dogs
Member
Holy heck they didnt fix the durability bug? Maybe they dont know how.
LegalEagleMike
Member
you would think if they were really struggling with how to do it they would just raise the durability ratings and call it a day.
molnizzle
Member
I'm out then. Absolutely unacceptable for them to charge $60 for this "update" and still not fix such a ridiculous bug that's been there since release. Especially now that the game will be 60fps on console now too.
From Software's programmers are fucking god awful. How do they still have jobs?
Exactly. Just double them, problem solved.
WTF.
From Software's programmers are fucking god awful. How do they still have jobs?
Exactly. Just double them, problem solved.
WTF.
Veritigo_X
Member
I guess the fact that it's still in the game after all the changes they made gives credence to the idea that it's a feature.
Deified Data
Banned
"DS2 is the first game in the series where durability actually matters."
"They repair automatically at bonfires anyway so this is From's way of balancing it out."
"If people just stopped hitting corpses this wouldn't be a problem."
"People are just mad because they want to use their favorite weapon through the whole game. If they utilized all three of their weapon slots they wouldn't be having this problem."
Orochinagis
Member
PC version 60 fps
I had seen some people already accepted the bug because 60fps is worth it.
If you never played the DLC is really worth it it also contain exclusive features (you dont really want to know), didnt know the price is 60$ anyway considering you can play BB.
They apparently have reworked enemy AI across the board as well, so there is also that. But I never had a problem with the encounter design in the first place, so I am good.
Shmeagatory94
Member
Can't wait to play Dark Souls 2 for the first time!
You honestly can't mean that. Like, I can't possibly take this seriously. Having played Scholar of the First Sin and Bloodborne, saying BB looks last-gen seems like crazy hyperbole. They're night and day. I mean, shit, some if the textures might look bad in BB, but overall, it's leaps and bounds ahead of DS2.
Happily platinumed Demon's, Dark 1, and Dark 2. Bloodborne's is probably just a night or three away.
If this new version on PS4 comes with a separated trophy list, I will happily plat it again. Still has the best mechanics, loot, and combat options of all the Souls games, in my opinion. Not so much level and world design, but I guess you can't have it all.
I actually hope I can wrap up BB relatively quickly, as I'm more than ready to move on, and it has no replay value whatsoever for me. Quite happy we can cheese our way to all three endings without having to run through the game three times. -_-
If this new version on PS4 comes with a separated trophy list, I will happily plat it again. Still has the best mechanics, loot, and combat options of all the Souls games, in my opinion. Not so much level and world design, but I guess you can't have it all.
I actually hope I can wrap up BB relatively quickly, as I'm more than ready to move on, and it has no replay value whatsoever for me. Quite happy we can cheese our way to all three endings without having to run through the game three times. -_-
Morrigan Stark
Arrogant Smirk
Other than early into Old Yharnam (due to the smoke of the fires, I think), I found the framerate to be perfectly fine... not 60fps smooth but never dipping in the same ways as the console versions of Souls games.
That said, I was summoned by my friend once, and the framerate dropped quite a bit. Maybe playing solo helps.
I think you're right. Plenty of things people complained about in DkS2 and sneered at the "B-team" for, are back in Bloodborne, and I don't hear a peep.
Ridiculous. Okay, I haven't finished BB yet, but so far only 3 bosses have killed me (
Father Gascoigne, Vicar Amelia (once only, I was just really sloppy and got greedy for the last hit, slaughtered her on my second attempt), and the One Reborn (haven't retried him yet so I dunno if he's legit hard or if I'll just pwn him the second attempt like for Amelia)
See, those are harder than just about anything in all 4 games (so far).
Here's a good solo melee strategy though, to answer your question:
1) Strength build using red iron twinblade and a greatshield
2) Rings: 3rd Dragon, Chloranthy+1 (NG), Blades+1, Bird (to tank better), + whatever you like
3) Pop a brightbug
4) Buff your weapon (I used charcoal pine resin 'cause 0 att slots, but if you can cast a spell buff that might be better)
5) Spam on the first tiger, he should go down before the second one comes down or be close to death
6) Then you can take the second in 1-on-1 which is far more manageable
2) Rings: 3rd Dragon, Chloranthy+1 (NG), Blades+1, Bird (to tank better), + whatever you like
3) Pop a brightbug
4) Buff your weapon (I used charcoal pine resin 'cause 0 att slots, but if you can cast a spell buff that might be better)
5) Spam on the first tiger, he should go down before the second one comes down or be close to death
6) Then you can take the second in 1-on-1 which is far more manageable
I haven't beaten BB yet but so far it's... both harder and easier? The normal mobs are more dangerous I think. I lost more bloodstains in BB than I did in all past Souls games (of course, Dark Souls 1 and 2 had mechanics to prevent bloodstain loss, with the Rings of Sacrifice and Rings of Life Protection but even so, I didn't break them that often) and it was almost always due to normal enemies. Bosses are generally far easier, so far.
For the Souls games, some areas and bosses are really hard and others are really easy. It's always been a bit inconsistent. I think that overall Dark Souls II is the hardest, because of the DLCs.
Just googled that and... holy shit. Mindblown. Love how these games manage to blow my mind years after the fact. <3
ebullientprism
Member
I think because its still "classic souls". BB is a pretty significant departure. While this, good or bad, is still a "Souls" game.
LegalEagleMike
Member
well I doubt he is saying DS2 is the measuring stick for last gen and that is all he is comparing Bloodborne with. Bloodborne looks way better than the souls games for sure.
It's definitely better than Dark Souls 2, but Bloodborne isn't exactly a jaw-dropper, either. If I were to pick a console game which looks decidedly 'next-gen', it wouldn't even be in my top three. Perhaps not even top 5.
Spiritreaver
Member
It doesn't look "last gen" or worse than DS2, but the framerate and awful aliasing in BB really kills the visual appeal for me at times. It makes me really excited for the next multiplatform game.
And yeah, I'm one of those crazy people that really dislikes playing anything in 30fps. I'll do it and enjoy a game, but it makes me
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It's also not much better graphically than a lot of PC releases in the past few years.
And yeah, I'm one of those crazy people that really dislikes playing anything in 30fps. I'll do it and enjoy a game, but it makes me
.It's also not much better graphically than a lot of PC releases in the past few years.
BB spoilers
My game gets really bad in Unseen Village and completely shits itself (5 sec freeze) upon entering The One Reborn's fog door if he's already spawned (aka you die once). It's not unplayable, but it can get pretty bad.
Primethius
Banned
Well, BB might have issues but it's just as believable that DS2 has those problems in a worst quality, like hitboxes. I've never had issues with them in BB but I can see that it might be an issue. But in DS2, they were an apparent and consistent issue, especially with the tracking on some of the enemy attacks.
Nobody is ignoring the issues with DS1/BB or even Demon Souls, and they all certainly have issues and flaws, but lets not give DS2 more credit then it deserves by way of faulty comparison.
Nobody is ignoring the issues with DS1/BB or even Demon Souls, and they all certainly have issues and flaws, but lets not give DS2 more credit then it deserves by way of faulty comparison.
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