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Dark Souls III - E3 Demo Impressions
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IchigoSharingan
Member
he's gonna burn out so hard but in the meantime......man's on an epic roll
Completely disagree. I even ignore a lot of bonfires in most of my playthroughs.
Having to actually learn how to traverse the levels is great.
Things like using a homeward bone back to firelink shrine after killing Quelaag because going down the shortcut later for Demon Ruins is faster than climbing back up (since you can just drop a couple of times) makes replaying it quite special.
Some people use the Firesage Skip to even do everything at once, before Lordvessel, but I'm not that good, I can only skip Ceaseless Discharge through the lava.
Wait wait wait...
Maybe in this game you linked the fire already and are the new Lord of Cinder ... Your job is to remake the world all nice and less apocalyptic...
Would explain why the player character is described as having a cape that is singed but still glowing as well as a torch that doesn't go out?
Edit: Also might explain the rumors that you can make bonfires now too?
Maybe in this game you linked the fire already and are the new Lord of Cinder ... Your job is to remake the world all nice and less apocalyptic...
Would explain why the player character is described as having a cape that is singed but still glowing as well as a torch that doesn't go out?
Edit: Also might explain the rumors that you can make bonfires now too?
Sticky&Sweet
Banned
I need footage!
You can still do that in a game that lets you warp from the start.
I don't want what should be a 30 second trip to a blacksmith turned into 5+ minutes because I can't warp. It's flat out stupid.
Because they made PVE awesome?
eot
Banned
He probably means the enemies pivoting. In DkSII they curve through the air to track you even in jumping attacks.
Capra actually does that too, kinda.
I swear i read it somewhere but i can't find it now. Big M stated leveling up to agility dodge is not a great idea.
RedAssedApe
Banned
i know. just initial confusion on my part heh
Getting behind enemies already puts you in an extremely advantageous position. Having them stand up straight and let you stab them in the back isn't awesome, imo.
Tarin02543
Member
Yeah, that sort of connectivity was totally lacking in ds2.
ps: ds2 is not a bad game
Orochinagis
Member
Bonfires are fueled with* humans so you maybe are using your own soul, fire or bones to reignite them
Aces&Eights
Member
There are not too many games out there that I go bat shit crazy over but Souls games are one of them. Reading the OP just made me hyped as hell. It sounds like they took the best of all the previous games and ate making one last super Souls. That new power stance and "whirlwind of swords" moveset? Holy shit!
I dont think were going to employ the idea of agility, otherwise the action would be stressful until you raise your stats.
please
Souless Squirrel
Member
All those details have me super hyped for this. Miyizaki is doing level design again, no more floaty feeling, level based multiplayer. Obviously the game I'm most looking forward to.
Melon Husk
Member
Good news keep on piling.
Randomizer
Member
Miyazaki personally on level design is the biggest news. He is pretty much without parallel in the industry. The seamlessness and interconnectedness in Dark Souls and Bloodborne are one of their strongest elements.
Weltall Zero
Member
Dat first post magic. I should get a tattoo of that (minus the typo
). Everything sounds delicious, can't wait. Good thing I just started Bloodborne!
I think I'm okay with from-the-start bonfire warping as long as the level designs are DkS1-tier.
Oh look, a backstab-able enemy. Time to spin circles around them until they whiff an attack and then 1 shot them.
Instant backstabs broke DkS1 PvE in a terrible way. In DkS2, they led to a weird arms-race where you could still insta-backstab but enemies spun way faster in order to prevent you from getting a clean shot.
The DkS backstab system needs a significant revamp. Bloodborne did them well, but introducing charge attacks on 90% of weapons also has a huge effect on gameplay that they might not want, so I understand if they don't go down that route. But I really, really, really, really, really hope they don't use one of the existing DkS systems without some tweaks.
Oh look, a backstab-able enemy. Time to spin circles around them until they whiff an attack and then 1 shot them.
Instant backstabs broke DkS1 PvE in a terrible way. In DkS2, they led to a weird arms-race where you could still insta-backstab but enemies spun way faster in order to prevent you from getting a clean shot.
The DkS backstab system needs a significant revamp. Bloodborne did them well, but introducing charge attacks on 90% of weapons also has a huge effect on gameplay that they might not want, so I understand if they don't go down that route. But I really, really, really, really, really hope they don't use one of the existing DkS systems without some tweaks.
I don't know what DkS1-style movement means. Is free-rolling gone?
Parries and Backstabs need a drastic re-work if they are to be included. Broken as fuck in Dark Souls 1 and Bloodborne.
Fast-travel is iffy. At the very least, it will be better than the launch version of Dark Souls 1, and closer to that game post-patch.
Stances sound like the natural evolution of power-stancing, which was proto-trick weapons. More of a focus on different movesets between stances sounds great.
Revamp of ranged weapons is fantastic. Spells need some more revisions, namely speed & moveset. I hope that weapon durability works like 2, except that even broken weapons auto repair at bonfires. Hell, make ranged weapon ammo work like spell charges/durability, as well. Fuck consumables of every kind.
My guess is that the game will use a mix of 1 and 2's weight/roll mechanics. Continuous, non cut-off dependence on roll type, but distance and i-frames are linked as in 1. I suspect that weight load will still be a separate state from the stat that boosts stamina.
Since when has Miyazaki focused on balance during the creation of the game? Post-release patches, sure, but not during the main development. Dark Souls 1, as it exists now, is fundamentally different than the balance at launch.
Parries and Backstabs need a drastic re-work if they are to be included. Broken as fuck in Dark Souls 1 and Bloodborne.
Fast-travel is iffy. At the very least, it will be better than the launch version of Dark Souls 1, and closer to that game post-patch.
Stances sound like the natural evolution of power-stancing, which was proto-trick weapons. More of a focus on different movesets between stances sounds great.
Revamp of ranged weapons is fantastic. Spells need some more revisions, namely speed & moveset. I hope that weapon durability works like 2, except that even broken weapons auto repair at bonfires. Hell, make ranged weapon ammo work like spell charges/durability, as well. Fuck consumables of every kind.
My guess is that the game will use a mix of 1 and 2's weight/roll mechanics. Continuous, non cut-off dependence on roll type, but distance and i-frames are linked as in 1. I suspect that weight load will still be a separate state from the stat that boosts stamina.
Since when has Miyazaki focused on balance during the creation of the game? Post-release patches, sure, but not during the main development. Dark Souls 1, as it exists now, is fundamentally different than the balance at launch.
eot
Banned
Warping is a get out of jail free card for shortcuts though. If they have warping it's going to affect the level design because they can get away with more dead ends and linear spokes. Not having it there forces them to push themselves. You see it in Bloodborne too, sure it has shortcuts but the world is not designed to be traversed in the same way Lordran is.
Thank god for PC version
Weltall Zero
Member
Stay? No Souls game has been over 30 aside from PC.
Vanilla DS2 also runs at 60 FPS/1080p even on my 7 year old PC. Obviously DS3 will be that much more demanding, but yeah. Worst case scenario, we have blessed Durante.
Well, yeah, but getting both is possible (PC) and best. DS1 was a thing of beauty on PC with Durante's fix.
Actually, console players got a taste of 60 FPS (mostly) Souls with SotFS.
Teletraan1
Banned
You can't even ask questions regarding this game. Game is perfect 10/10 perfect frame pacing according to the bloodborne cult. Just ignore these irrational kids or ridiculously immature adults with their fervent attacks. The game has a slight frame pacing problem but it is playable. You stop noticing it after a while or you won't but will press on because the rest of the game is really good.
And spoiled by it.
Every Souls game has been 30fps on consoles at launch.
Dictator93
Member
Or at least a very futile attempt at 30.
"Oh look, a backstab-able enemy. Time to spin circles around them until they whiff an attack and then 1 shot them."
Not familiar with this strategy. For me, a shieldless user, it's more of a high risk, high and oh so satisfynig reward situation. Roll into an attack and make use of the invincibility frames, end up behind the enemy, backstab for massive damage/insta-kill. Feels good, man.
I haven't used shields since my first character in DS1. You don't even have to circle around them. All you need to do is run behind them (without locking on), and 99% of the time they will whiff an attack and you get a free backstab.
Other than the backstab stuff, all of this sounds awesome.
It was stupidly abusable , especially in Dark 1. Also, fucks up PvP, especially when there's lag going on.
I don't feel like backstabs are needed in this game IMO.
It was stupidly abusable , especially in Dark 1. Also, fucks up PvP, especially when there's lag going on.
I don't feel like backstabs are needed in this game IMO.
Where are all these games which are like ps3 graphic for the sake of 60 fps on ps4? O_O
I missed it. Because if you are talking of remastered that's a really stupid comparison, no offence.
Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
Slightly less maps than DSII, yet much bigger individually, makes it seem like the game could be bigger than DS1 anyway.
DSII is a huge game even if individual areas are often not that large.
DSII is a huge game even if individual areas are often not that large.
Windom Earle
Member
Only the latest console Souls.
If it's really only slightly fewer maps than DS2, and they are individually larger than in DS2, then it will almost certainly be bigger than DS1. DS2 was huge (with the 3 DLCs it's gigantic).
Zombegoast
Member
Glad they are taking pages from Dark Souls 1.
Orochinagis
Member
I prefer few zones but big, some Dark Souls 2 areas were pretty bad designed you could feel the areas are just simply rooms and pretty linear