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Dark Souls III |OT+2| Why Can't We Poise the Game?
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Cannon Goose
Member
That's quite a list of changes! I'm glad they're finally (partially?) fixing the Astora Greatsword rolling R1. We'll see if it still deals thrusting damage for no reason once the patch is out.
Screaming Meat
Unconfirmed Member
In a good way or in a bad way?
RyanardoDaVinci
Member
Does this mean Greirat can return from Lothric Castle?
Dr. Benton Quest
Banned
I really hope both it and the claws stay the same. They're not broken and most people just spam their weapon art.
No, just that they'll come back from Irythill without needing a boss death to trigger it.
Screaming Meat
Unconfirmed Member
Me too.
Of course, we all know that Manikin Claws are the superior choice of claw weapon.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
http://darksouls3.wiki.fextralife.com/Poise
Just so people know, the poise system is this and was always there. The adjusments are based on this system, I'd say it won't really change significantly the actual metagame.
And, yeah, the game has a lot of weapons so adjustments are usually large. Probably outside of the meta weapons is probably the most balanced DS game. DS2 had so many bs builds...
Doesn't say either way - I think it would say if it was a nerf in particular like they've done with the Gotthard swords.
By the way, are we getting a separate DLC OT?
To me it seems their code might not be that well maintainable. While it is entirely possible to make a human error and forget to include some attacks into a list of parryable attacks, a lot of the things fixed in patches seem to be things that should just be simple boolean (true/false) checks.
Dr. Benton Quest
Banned
We don't know that. A few months ago From talked about overhauling the system and it seems from the patch note that it will be drastic.
The only thing you can do to hyper armor is just give it more or less frames. They could really just remove the poise stat in its current state and leave hyper armor.
I would guess that this update will make heavy armor viable in someone way.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
Looking at the notes, seems they are talking about how much poise defense heavy armor gives and how much poise dmg heavy weapons do. My guess is that they are gonna adjust the actual system to make it so, that you are gonna likely get staggered during hyper armor if you have light armor so heavy armor has.an adcantage over light armor when you use weapons with hyper armor frames.
So basically just adjust the current numbers, because that's how.poise works as now.
Nope, still garbage.
Head of Vengarl
Banned
Hey guys I heard there's an upda-
CountAntonius
Member
Some weopon and armor spoil. I am very excited about this. The options, the possible ranks and hopefully they keep adding more arena. A souls game is actually getting a legit PvP mode.
Arena gameplay.
Arena gameplay.
I really hope there are multiple arena options, including ones that are not just an arena but have some elevation to run around and obstacles for avoiding spells etc.
CountAntonius
Member
The option is there. Hopefully they will keep adding zones already in the game.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
Some very cool weapons there.
A proper PvP mode makes DS3 the most complete DS game. A truly masterful end for the saga.
CountAntonius
Member
I can already see mages in 3's being very useful casting from a distance while the melee focused builds take the front lines.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
A faith healing build + sorcery build and a melee focused one, will be hard to beat, surely.
CountAntonius
Member
According to peeve's video there may be some kinda of ranking system in place for each different mode. Also in the modes with respawns there is an auto Wrath Of Gods to protect spawn killing.
Two casters would make the team very weak unless they're very experienced.
Nothing official yet.
DorkLord54
Member
So I'm guessing the
is going to be
based on the Onyx Sword and Crow Quills descriptions?
Also, seems people weren't wrong when they speculated that some of the enemies are
, though seeing a connection to
is surprising, no wonder he's such a bastard. And an
? Please tell me that's foreshadowing for the second DLC.
scythe-wielding boss
Elfriede
Also, seems people weren't wrong when they speculated that some of the enemies are
connected to the Undead Legion
Sulyvahn (not to mention the fact that he's probably a Corvian since he was born in the painting)
Abyss Dragon
Tarkus
Member
No, it would be great at a soul level higher than 120. Maybe 140 like the new player-created covenants. Casting at 120 is a disadvantage however. Everyone can dodge through all the spells now. At this point, you have to have a weapon backup to compete.
Zank Frappa
Banned
Question: I'm about to respec and am around level 140. I'm coming off of a STR/FTH build but I found out that I don't care for magic at all in DS III. It's just not the same as in previous game. Now, I just want to wreck shit and go melee 100%.
So.. do I go quality build or pure STR? What does this choice boil down to? I'm not looking to incorporate any spell in my build. Also, any fun weapons to recommend for a fully melee build? I've been messing around with the F/UGS and Astora greatsword and such, but the first is too slow and the latter feels like it's built for magic & melee builds.
Edit: Wait..! I'm also in NG++ lol. If anyone is willing to give me advice, please keep this in consideration.
So.. do I go quality build or pure STR? What does this choice boil down to? I'm not looking to incorporate any spell in my build. Also, any fun weapons to recommend for a fully melee build? I've been messing around with the F/UGS and Astora greatsword and such, but the first is too slow and the latter feels like it's built for magic & melee builds.
Edit: Wait..! I'm also in NG++ lol. If anyone is willing to give me advice, please keep this in consideration.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
On a 3 vs 3 fight having complete awareness of your surroundings is harder so casters definetly have a chance to get hits, and a int 60 crystal soul spear hurts a lot, well most spells hurts a lot, same with pyros, at that level.
If the group is well coordinated it will be very hard for a melee based team to win.
The choice boils down that the number of weapons you can use on a STR build is greatly reduced. Most weapons works better in a quality build and the number of weapons you can use is much higher, basically you have access to most of the arsenal in the game.
In terms of fun weapons, Yhorn's machete is fun, even with the limited moveset, but you need an offhand weapon or can be frustrating. Right now I'm having a lot of fun with a DEX build and a chaos blade too.
Gundyr's halberd is great to and works wonderfully on a STR build.
Go quality or bleed, at least that's what I think.
I love the Hollowslayer GS, but Carthus Curved sword is great, too. I'm on my PvE journey through the game and don't care for the PvP meta, thats why I have both atm, quality + bleed
Zank Frappa
Banned
Go quality or bleed, at least that's what I think.
I love the Hollowslayer GS, but Carthus Curved sword is great, too. I'm on my PvE journey through the game and don't care for the PvP meta, thats why I have both atm, quality + bleed
I don't care for PvP meta either.. really just a PvE guy and occasionally I'll PvP. Do you have examples of this build? I googled "quality bleed" and stumbled upon this: https://www.reddit.com/r/darksouls3/comments/4eq3tg/quality_hollow_build_sl125/ I've never actually considered Hollow, I'm coincidentally at 99 hollow at the moment because I messed around lol.
Thanks. Right now I'm running with a +5 Chaos Blade and 45 DEX.. It doesn't nearly do as much damage in NG++ as I expected. I just kind of feel like I'm doing something wrong or not enough, despite having lots of dex and an S scaling Dex weapon. That bleed stuff I mentioned earlier seems to offer a little bonus AR to my weapons, might look into that.
I can have a look at it tonight, but I think I'm at 40 Dex, 40 Str and 35 Luck.
You'll get an additional 5 Luck for every hollow-infused weapon and shield you equip when hollowed.
The Hollowslayer GS can't be infused, so it doesn't matter there, but I did hollow Carthus Curved sword, my shield and Anri's.
You'll get an additional 5 Luck for every hollow-infused weapon and shield you equip when hollowed.
The Hollowslayer GS can't be infused, so it doesn't matter there, but I did hollow Carthus Curved sword, my shield and Anri's.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
Go for 60 DEX, is stil not really a beast in terms of dmg, but the moveset is really good.
Ain't no DS2 Chaos Blade that's for sure. Weapon was nuts there.
We killed the Old Demon King on the second attempt: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRhq9qsKpHA&index=98&list=PLnhwVsYSH1o1jW-5r-UfCbFz4VcQalzj5
Even being massively overleveled and using grossly overpowered weapons, bosses can still 2HKO you. Must be lonely being the king of all your brethren, in a room just full of corpses. Chaos Bed Vestiges and the Old King Great Hammer don't seem like they'd be all that useful for our Faith/Dex build either unfortunately.
Anri's reaction to us telling her about
?
Even being massively overleveled and using grossly overpowered weapons, bosses can still 2HKO you. Must be lonely being the king of all your brethren, in a room just full of corpses. Chaos Bed Vestiges and the Old King Great Hammer don't seem like they'd be all that useful for our Faith/Dex build either unfortunately.
Anri's reaction to us telling her about
Smouldering Lake was a bit strange - you must not tell her you've killed Horace if you pick that option, since she says she's going to the lake to investigate. I assume if Horace isn't dead, he'll kill Anri since he's hostile/Hollow
GwyndolinCinder
Member
What's pc launch time for dlc?
GwyndolinCinder
Member
Finally figured out a fix for the stuttering so many of us had for what seems like forever!
Wasn't that fixed in one of the patches?
GwyndolinCinder
Member
Alot of people have been having stuttering for quite a while just randomly, the saving/loading area stuttering was fixed though.
and what did you do? This might be of interest to some.