Ohhh?
Teach me your ways, sempai. I just made a new character using fist weapons. I transferred claws, caestus, and manikin claws down from my first character who isn't using them. And well I'm only as far as the Foot of the High Wall right now, so super early still but I've been using the regular claws (only just raised my dex high enough to wield the Manikin claws and they aren't upgraded), they're at +2, I made them raw for now just for a slight damage boost until my stats catch up, and.... fuck me, but claws
suck.
Bleed takes too long to proc, they have no reach, and their damage output is shite. Same for the caestus except they're somehow worse since they don't bleed, though the buff from the weapon art might be OK (but doesn't last very long?).
I haven't tried the Manikin claws yet though. Right now AR-wise they're lower than the regular claws, but should I abandon the regular claws and keep upgrading the Manikin claws then? What infusion and stats work best for them? I was thinking Sharp/dex, or Refined/Quality, and using L1 combos if they don't completely suck...
tl;dr How do I make claws/fists not suck? Am I just too early in the game for that and I just need to be patient, or is there something I'm missing?