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MeisaMcCaffrey
I tried farming with around 400 item discovery, still couldn't get Slabs from those guys. Pretty frustrated right now.
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Wait until you're standing on the wheel itself before stepping off. Saw it on a stream once and haven't died on the water wheel since.
BruceLeeRoy
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Just did my 10th run through. Fricken ridiculous and I need 4 of these damn things to max out my Elite Armor. Gaaaaahh
Red Liquorice
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I grabbed the loot from around the corner of Ceaseless discharge, but died trying to bolt out the area! Another time, he's pretty scary.
This is the way, thanks!
Jackben
bitch I'm taking calls.
Eh, unless you just really love the looks of the Elite Armor I would definitely not waste 4 slabs on the set. It's actually fairly terrible compared to what you could be upgrading with that much material.
I'm still experimenting with a good lightweight-but-still-protective Dexterity style armor set. Mixing and matching Xanthos/Painting Guardian/Brass Armor/Paladin/Darkwraith/Dark Leather
Finding the best possible defense while still looking cool is fairly difficult. I usually wear Smough's gauntlets if I have the endurance to spare as they look fine and offer a shitload of poise for just a glove slot.
Maxing out isn't worth it.
The best armors all tend to be upgraded with Twinkling Titanite. Giant's, Black Iron, etc.
The first time you venture into these games, Dark Souls is harder because of the open world thing and how you can go to many places that are very hard if you're not prepared.
But once you know the game well, Demon's Souls is much harder.
Blighttown connects to another area I didn't see mentioned here.
Which in turn connects you to another area...
swordfishtrombones
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I finally beat the game, the last parts went quicker than I expected.
I took on Four Kings on my own, wasn't that bad at SL84 and lots of pyromancy.
The last boss I managed to get down to 25% on my first try before I got into the dreaded stun lock - recovery attempts cycle. A few attempts later I gave in and summoned two phantoms. These guys were backstabbing the knights on the way to the boss before I could even try and get a hit at them.
On the ending itself:
I tried half an hour of NG+ and that was surprisingly easy so far (got up to Solaire). I felt like I was doing a speed run with my nifty gear (silver knight because it looks cool) and lightning spear +5. Very tempting to just continue, helping others beat bosses is so much fun. Shame that you can't do that easily due to the level ranges (which is required, I realize).
Thanks for the help from all in this thread (both to my previous questions and the general discussion; it helped a lot).
I took on Four Kings on my own, wasn't that bad at SL84 and lots of pyromancy.
The last boss I managed to get down to 25% on my first try before I got into the dreaded stun lock - recovery attempts cycle. A few attempts later I gave in and summoned two phantoms. These guys were backstabbing the knights on the way to the boss before I could even try and get a hit at them.
On the ending itself:
very underwhelmed. I had stayed away from spoilers/discussion, so I was expecting a bit more than that. The build-up at the start of the level was great (white walls with phantoms passing through). The sudden loading screen (toward NG+) was pretty jarring. I lit the bonfire, didn't even realize there are apparently other options. At least in Demon's Souls you had the idea that you made a choice.
I tried half an hour of NG+ and that was surprisingly easy so far (got up to Solaire). I felt like I was doing a speed run with my nifty gear (silver knight because it looks cool) and lightning spear +5. Very tempting to just continue, helping others beat bosses is so much fun. Shame that you can't do that easily due to the level ranges (which is required, I realize).
Thanks for the help from all in this thread (both to my previous questions and the general discussion; it helped a lot).
BruceLeeRoy
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Yeah I agree
swordfishtrombones
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Yeah, once I got to know each level in Dark Souls, I never really had problems. In Demon's, I still have nightmares featuring those laser beam firing ghosts (4-2 I think?).
why you wanna complete your armor? not worth using slabs for amors, it only add a few points of defense which is meaningless. Always use slabs for weapons
BruceLeeRoy
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Good point. I still need at least 2 of the bastards for my Uchi and Claymore. What kind of END are you guys shooting for. Do you always have Havels ring on?
Got it thanks to WOWbagger
I'll try it out tomorrow Just had my first co-op experience in the game! This is more fun than I could have ever imagined.
I did co-op with WOWbagger, we went through Demon Ruins and Lost Izalith.
We were invaded a bunch of times, more often he did while waiting for me to summon him. I died every time
Got invaded by some Darkwraith dick who was shooting poisoned darts and throwing dung pie lol
Almost died at almost every boss
Bed of Chaos managed to kill me, and I lost 700K souls trying to go back there after we killed her... by a fucking Titanite Demon The most difficult thing in this was finding the bonfire in Lost Izle lol. I searched for it for a good amount of time
This is my second playthrough, and I used the short cut to Lost Izle last time, so I had no idea where to go in that place
I had to kill sunbro... had to put him out of his misery
Also, the shortcut to Lost Izle was open, which is weird. I did open it in my first playthrough, but not in this NG+. Had a great time, thx WOWbagger
If someone would like to co-op, PM me your PSN ID
Just got wrecked by some guy using the Darkmoon Blade weapon buff miracle with Claws. I had no idea such a combination was so effective, it's super fast and kills me in about four hits.
That's Dark Souls I suppose some nights things go excellent and other nights you just get destroyed, still though it's all a learning experience.
That's Dark Souls I suppose some nights things go excellent and other nights you just get destroyed, still though it's all a learning experience.
Poise is the game changer.
I went back and played through Demon's Souls again after completing several playthroughs of Dark Souls and found it way easier. The MP bar, the existence of passive HP regen items that are actually worthwhile, and being able to easily stock up on huge amounts of healing items made it feel like easy mode.
I was even running a Blueblood Sword build so my character was totally garbs until I had finished 5-3 and 1-3. Still powered through the game no prob.
I was even running a Blueblood Sword build so my character was totally garbs until I had finished 5-3 and 1-3. Still powered through the game no prob.
Darkmoon Blade is the strongest buff in the game. It will transform any weapon+15 to a beast.
I remember doing 900 damage with a Washing Pole buffed with Darkmoon Blade. I can't imagine how it would be with some uber weapons like Demon Great Axe or Demon Great Machette.
See You Next Wednesday
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To fully level it up to +3 takes an insane amount of time though.
It does about 1150 damage with a DGM and about 1180 with DGA.
This is true, unless you BB glitch or have someone who BB glitched drop some ears for you. I have gotten about 50 ears from Darkmoon Invasions though, and I got about 20 from farming the Harpies in Painted World.
sloppyjoe_gamer
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mother f'n ornstein and smough.....i cant make any progress on one without the other cheesing my ass while im attacking the other one. Any tips or should i just try to summon someone for coop? i have a drake sword +4, and lightning spear +2 im trying to beat them with.
having a shield with good stability helps as well....bring the eagle shield, then sit behind it with a spear or other weapon that allows you to turtle up and still attack.
if you want to do this alone you will nned ot upgrade your spear and bring a fire weapo or pyro......Orn I beleive i impervious to lightning. (but it could be smu...can't remember which but one is for sure)
sloppyjoe_gamer
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Which blacksmith can attach fire?
Catacombs blacksmith Vamos does.
Did you pick up the Crystal Halberd at the beginning of Anor Londo from the Mimic chest? Both of your weapons are kinda weaksauce, so if you have the Crystal Halberd, it will be an easier fight. If not, equip the Eagle Shield and Drake sword, attack Ornstein first, then after you kill him, switch to your Lightning Spear to attack Smough. If you want to kill Smough first, then do the opposite, I just suggest killing Ornstein first because Smough is easier to kill second when you have a lightning spear.
Crystal Halberd is your best option if you have it though, it does excellent damage, don't upgrade it though, it breaks easily, it's just a disposable weapon.
Heh. When I summoned Solaire he got trashed on the easy first stage of that fight. I can't imagine how useless he would have been on the second stage where shit gets real.
You can kill the fat guy quickly with the lightning spear. He's weak to it. Keep circling around him so the spear guy is on the other side of the fat guy. When the spear guy goes super saiyin (after the fat guy dies), stay close to his legs; try to be right behind him/his legs whenever you can. You can run under his legs. When he hops away, run like hell to get back under him with your shield up (in case he attacks on your way there). When he jumps up to do his lightning stomp, run and/or roll away quickly, then run back when the lightning stops.
Spotless Mind
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Spent over an hour farming to get the Channeller's Trident. What a pain in the ass. Was satisfying, though, when i got it and my final trophy dinged. The Platinum in this was easy compared to Demon's Souls. The World Tendencies always confused the shit out of me in that game, so i gave up trying after a while.
There's very few games that completely suck me into their world like this one. Can't wait to see what FROM come up with to follow this game up. The mechanics and world designs in this series are a cut above everything else. I think i'm gonna give Demon's Souls another playthrough now.
There's very few games that completely suck me into their world like this one. Can't wait to see what FROM come up with to follow this game up. The mechanics and world designs in this series are a cut above everything else. I think i'm gonna give Demon's Souls another playthrough now.
MMaRsu
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I'm always using Havels ring in combo with his armor, sometimes to go PVE I like to wear my elite knight armor +6 or however high it is, just because it looks so cool.
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Hawkian what armor is that? It's not havel's is it?
CountAntonius
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Looks like ornsteins armor and gold hemmed black hood.
Well done!
Just why didn't you upgrade your reinforced club to beyond +5? Or is it just for the challenge?
Probably taking it Chaos/Fire.
MMaRsu
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How do you obtain Ornsteins armor? Is it better than Havels? Probably not right..
The Xtortionist
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How do people have such powerful weapons? Summoned some guys to help me with Smough & Ornstein and they took down Smough in like, 5 seconds. My Lightning Spear +5 is good, but not that good. SL 55 if that matters.
Game has been out a while, people have that kind of stuff in the first area already. It's become especially common lately since everyone uses the glitch that lets you transfer items to new characters.
The Xtortionist
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I mean, what could they be using specifically.
Max Lightning Spear isn't good enough I guess : (
That, and
going to eventually do this. Might make a lightning one too, but I don't have the large ember yet anyway. I plan on beating most of the bosses on this SL1 run.. capra and gaping dragon are next. tried a couple of times to beat capra with the same setup (naked without blocking, +5 club). he was not intimidated and planted me firmly into the ground.
How do you obtain Ornsteins armor? Is it better than Havels? Probably not right..
You kill Ornstein last in the Anor Londo boss fight (it's considered harder to do it in this order), and then you can buy it from Domhall of Zena, the merchant wearing the armor of the glorious set who is sitting under the bridge into undead burg in firelink. If you kill Smough last, Domhall sells that armor instead. Ornstein's armor is one of my favorite sets in the game. It's not "better" than Havels in terms of poise or any sort of defense, but it's lighter, has pretty good stats/poise,and looks cool.
Well, they could be using anything really, SL means very little. The spear isn't a very strong weapon and will be outdone by most weapons taken the same upgrade path. There is also scaling of course, which is better in many cases but demands more dedicated stats and/or faith/magic buffs. Not very common at SL 45-65.
Lightning spear +5 will work fine though and you'll be able to upgrade other weapons if you want to switch it up. The only rare materials are the slabs for the final level and dragon scales which are used for a few specific ones.
Whats the Darkmoon Blade? Cant find it in the wiki.
Has anyone been watching YouTuber EpicNameBro's videos? He is amazing and hilarious, I've been following him since the Japanese release. He recently put up a whole set of Dark Souls lore videos and a badass FlameLurker kill. He had a FlameLurker kill contest and a dude submitted a melee/no shield FL kill which was impressive.
Yeah, I like the new build he posted (power within + crystal magic weapon + balder side sword + lingering dragoncrest). definitely want to make a build with buffed balder side sword after watching this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bBKtlY1LH4&list=UUI6keWArpxmfeiuAATv7jZw&index=1&feature=plcp
Its not an actual weapon, its an enchant spell i think
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