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Dark Souls: Prepare to Die Edition |OT| Durante Does In 23 Minutes What From Can't
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You have to kill the dogs as fast as humanly possible. When you first enter try running up the stairs and slash the dogs as fast as you can. If you get stuck in the entrance of this area slash away and try to kill one of the dogs. Run up the stairs for a breather then try to kill the other, healing when possible. Then use your spells and try to keep a distance on him. I have a similar build to you and I barely beat him.
You're build is fine for that fight, you should just try approaching the fight from a different angle.
edit: what's up with telling new people exactly how to best fight the bosses, totally ruins the thrill of figuring out how to beat them >.>
rogerroger22
Member
Right when you first enter? nope.
IoCaster
Member
Yeah, I already did the tail thing, but I really just want to kill the dragon. I'm tired of the fucker camping that bridge.
I did beat the Gargoyles and I remember there was an NPC there after the fight. Is he the one you mean? Also, I didn't get a chance to talk to the NPC in the Depths. Does he sell stuff?
InternHertz
Member
Alright, on NG++, only need the 5
in
so my total is 30, then I give those to the covenant and the
reward is the last item I need to get my perfect save! Obtained at least one of each item in the game + all achievements.
Of course, it may not be a perfect save if someone finally finds another use to the
rather than consuming it, or if there's a secret drop anywhere in the DLC that was not yet discovered and listed in the wikis.
If here is anything, I just need to get that and everything's fine again
dragon scales
Ash Lake
dragon torso
Of course, it may not be a perfect save if someone finally finds another use to the
Guardian Soul
If here is anything, I just need to get that and everything's fine again
cleveridea
Member
ugbh please tell me no more bosses put me in a tiny room, the game is infuriatingly broken in such tiny spaces
the camera just keeps spinning around disorientingly, I feel like the dozen deaths is entirely random and out of my control
all other fights I felt like I did something wrong, in this one its infuriating because I cant get my character to do what I want -
the camera just keeps spinning around disorientingly, I feel like the dozen deaths is entirely random and out of my control
all other fights I felt like I did something wrong, in this one its infuriating because I cant get my character to do what I want -
run up stairs, kill dogs, and evade attacks
cluxdeluxe
Banned
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Intelligence does nothing for Pyromancy, correct.
TimeEffect
Member
Are u a new player? I am curious to hear impressions from u PC guys. Souls is my favorite new IP this gen, I was always curious to know what 360 and PC gamers thought of it.
I highly recommend Demon's Souls if u want to go back and have a PS3/want an excuse. Demon's Souls multiplayer was much better (shut down now, I think)
whalleywhat
Member
I found myself having to co-op a lot early in the game, but soloed all of the late bosses.
Thanks, so Is there a stat that makes pyromancy better?
Cloudius12
Member
no iirc, but you can use Rings that increases intelligence and for some reason this boosts pyromancy damage.
MvmntInGrn
Member
I went all magic for that fight. Just ran in a circle (strafing backwards, locked on) up the stairs then dropping off them, taking out the dogs with fire then kept gauging my distance for soul arrows.
cleveridea
Member
do you get to meet any interesting characters? So far no one compares to the atmosphere of demons souls so far. hell the last few characters have stood with their arms straight out horizontally (is this a bug?)
dark souls has tons of gameplay innovation over demons souls, but its relatively soul-less so far NPC wise, SL 32
Or is this because the game is huge and I'm just not far enough into the game...
dark souls has tons of gameplay innovation over demons souls, but its relatively soul-less so far NPC wise, SL 32
Or is this because the game is huge and I'm just not far enough into the game...
H_Prestige
Banned
Where are you in the game? I think Dark Souls blows Demons' out of the water in terms of characters and lore. I also think there are a lot more characters, but I'm not sure. Just seems that way. Keep in mind, guys you fight like Havel are also characters who have interesting back story.
cleveridea
Member
can you run faster if you put a lot of points into DEX? i dont see a big difference in speed between <25 and <50 (apart from stamina use/regen)
I dont know if thats because my build is fairly high dex for zweihander, and then sorcerer (ie almost no endurance or dex)
I feel like I wasted my time up to SL32 since I cant move fast enough to dodge the demon attacks, 100% shield damage block is useless (attacks brush aside like nothing) and my STR weapons are so slow I always take damage in return
The Anti-Monitor
Banned
As someone who overleveled way too much in order to beat Sif (before even going against Quelaag!), the only boss that really drove me crazy was Bed of Chaos. Even Ornstein and Smough solo went down relatively easy.
Nito and Gwyn in particular, look fucking awesome but are so disappointingly easy. Four Kings are tough as fuck in NG+ but on the first run they were very easy. The only challenge with Seath was getting the tail. Bed of Chaos, though? Only the stupid cats from Darkroot Garden killed me more.
Also, a dex build is very good with a Katana +15.
I'm a new player and its some of the most fun I've had in a game for a while.
Uh oh. Bed of chaos is my next boss fight. I'm in for some fun.
MvmntInGrn
Member
To be honest I'm not sure how weight is handled in Dark Souls but I was weighted enough to have the slow dodge roll, but I didn't use it. Blocked with shield and just kept moving backwards, only close calls were if I ended up with him between me and the stairs and I got hit with one of the two-handed over the head attacks.
I'm not trying to build my character any sort of way really, figure I'll do that on my next playthrough.
cleveridea
Member
I dont know this game is VERY confusing to a first timer as I had no clue where to go after fighting the
gargoyles
I then thought the shoot dragon in tail was lame and un-atmospheric so I ended up
going through the church with the channeler and the boar
lightning spewing no head demon
in the gardens with the giant trees
so I went back and realized I needed to go down to the
capra demon
so far I think demons souls is a way more atmospheric world in terms of character and story, but again perhaps dark souls is huge and I just havent found the good stuff yet
are some NPC's supposed to just stand there with arms pointing out horizontally? bug?
"Well, what is it?"
cleveridea
Member
thats what I dont get, I block with a shield that is supposed to be 100% damage protect and have full stamina bar, first hit takes away half my health (which is 750 or something like that, SL 32)
cleveridea
Member
so presumably weapons are all slow because I have STR weapons right? Zweihander for example with 24 STR (awesome BTW)
I imagine dex weapons like katanas are super fast, ie DEX are fast but dont hit as hard
I kinda dead ended myself for the
with high STR and INT (and foolishly built up some faith also) since I cant survice hits even with a nice shield, my magic is too slow to cast, and my heavy weapons are too slow to hit without getting hit back in response
I imagine a higher DEX, higher endurance character would help with a lesser focus on INT.
I imagine dex weapons like katanas are super fast, ie DEX are fast but dont hit as hard
I kinda dead ended myself for the
capra demon
I imagine a higher DEX, higher endurance character would help with a lesser focus on INT.
cleveridea
Member
Always had nightmares about capra.
Later on i met few of them. I one-shoted two of them at once.
Feels good. Zweihander for life.
Seriously that weapon is OP. There was no any problem in tomb of giants with +10. With shield devastating stamina attack no one can stop me
oh if I wasnt stuck in a tiny room with camera spinning out of control, I'd own his ass no problem with the zweihander and heavy soul arrows
Try throwing an alluring skull (you can buy them from the undead merchant in the aqueduct leading to lower burg) when you first walk into the fog door. This will distract Capra long enough for you to run to the stairs, and take care of the dogs. Capra will chase you up there but he will fall down. When he falls, plunge attack, run up the stairs and repeat.
H_Prestige
Banned
DEX up to 40 increases casting speed, but that's it.
cleveridea
Member
it affects all casting? sorcery as well? (I knew it did faith...)
dammit, another reason I need to restart
Sort of. Weight has a lot to do with it. The less a weapon weighs (generally) the faster it swings. DEX weapons are typically faster than STR weapons (and they weigh less).
My strat:
For Capra: start running right when you get in. I found it was easiest to dodge the dogs, heading as quickly as possible, up the stairs to your left. From here,you can usually back up against the wall in the corner and take out both dogs by the time the Capra Demon makes his way toward you. then it's just a matter of fighting 1v1
Not sure, I know he is some fat tittied dude in our bro chat channel that is hidden from you.
Not all attacks (or shields) are equal. There are some different sizes of shields, which affect whether you can shield bash or parry, and whether you can block certain attacks. I think there are some unblockable attacks as well, but there are definitely attacks that large shields can block that small shields cannot.
H_Prestige
Banned
Yeah. It's not a huge difference or anything. You don't need to restart, unless you want to make a DEX/INT or DEX/FAI hybrid build. I made the latter and it turned out to be my favorite build. It's awesome being able to cast all these miracles and at the same time tear things up with a buffed balder side sword.
cleveridea
Member
er...thanks
I just "won" the fight using the tactic I think you suggested but I feel...like a dirty cheat LOL
Actually I didn't see the part that I could use, I accidentally rolled onto it
H_Prestige
Banned
If you think Capra is a bullshit fight, wait till you meet Bed of Chaos.
Pretty sure there was a last minute swoop in, but I'll have to log in to see if they quietly shut down or not. I'm guessing Sony might have an active interest in keeping it around.
You can get all Sorceries in one playthrough. You need to hit NG+ to get all Miracles.
For Sorcery-focused Int builds the traditional go-to weapon has been the Moonlight Greatsword since pretty much forever. Requires 16 Strength, and whether it's still top dog depends on how much the greatsword swing speed nerf bothers you. For something with lower requirements the Moonlight Butterfly Horn only requires 12 Strength, freeing up 4 points to use elsewhere. For the minimalist build that focuses totally on spells for offense you could start as a Sorcerer and put only a single point into Dexterity. That gets you access to the Rapier, which you can take along a non-scaling upgrade path and pair with a Heater Shield.
One of the main limiting factors in an Int build that really wants to use Sorcery beyond weapon enchantments is that 44 Int is basically the bare minimum, with 50 Int being preferable. That's a lot of soul levels to invest in something that doesn't increase your durability at all and that only gives you access to a scant few weapons. That's why I'm generally less inclined to go for the Moonlight Greatsword post-nerf; starting as a Sorcerer 16 Strength is 8 whole levels to get access to a sword that really just ain't what it used to be when you can devote those points to something else. Heavy Int builds are usually leaning heavily on their catalyst as their primary mode of offense, so your actual weapon is mostly just something you use to preserve castings on the way to a boss.
Faith builds are quite a bit more flexible, I think. You still need to go all the way to 50 to get access to all Miracles, but the top-level Miracles aren't nearly as important to a Faith build as the top-level Sorceries are to an Int build. 30 Faith gets you access to both Miracle weapon enchantments as well as Wrath of the Gods and the two readily-accessible Lightning Spear Miracles for offense. All you get for going above 30 are a couple of questionably-useful AoE heals and an limited-use offensive spell that requires two Attunement slots to equip. This leaves you a lot more wiggle room than an Int build in terms of meeting weapon requirements.
The only really onerous Faith build, stat-wise, is a Grant build, which requires a bare minimum of 34 Strength and 30 Faith to two-hand. If you want to use it one-handed you're looking at going all the way to 50 Strength. Grant builds are actually a lot of fun, but building an entire character around using a single weapon isn't necessarily something you want to do until you've got a few characters under your belt and have played the field a bit, so to speak.
cleveridea
Member
halberd moveset is amazing - VERY long range thrust like a spear for safe attacks against single enemies, and safe use in corridors, yet a wide attack that hits EVERY enemy in a huge radius and nice jump attacks
cleveridea
Member
Oh I'm terrified of whats coming
I felt like a dirty cheat scammer the way I won that fight as a sorcerer
cleveridea
Member
man it would be great if they released demons souls on pc
I really prefer the characters in demons souls, even though dark souls seems like a way better game.
I'm scared to play on my launch PS3 60 GB that can do high def PS2 upscaling - no longer can buy hardware emulation right?
I really prefer the characters in demons souls, even though dark souls seems like a way better game.
I'm scared to play on my launch PS3 60 GB that can do high def PS2 upscaling - no longer can buy hardware emulation right?
Haunted
Member
wat. One of the ugliest locations in the game. Terrible choice of colours.
Final fight is great, though, and has my favourite music track in the game.
I take this weapon to +10 Fire asap on any of my melee focused builds, every time. Not to mention it has insane damage at that upgrade, but the basic +15 path isn't bad either if you want it to scale and buff it. One of my favorite weapons, aside from the Gargoyle's Halberd Chaos/Fire.
Although, I have to admit I liked the animations and move set of the Halberd much better in Demon's.
cleveridea
Member
wow, I HAVE to go back and play demons souls now lol