No is not 10 level, it's 10%. So if you are level 36, your friend need to be at least 33-39.
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Dark Souls: Prepare to Die Edition |OT| Durante Does In 23 Minutes What From Can't
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No is not 10 level, it's 10%. So if you are level 36, your friend need to be at least 33-39.
cleveridea
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you can equip 2 items to the left hand, and 2 to the right and then pressing left or right dpad alternates between them on that hand
eg I have shield and talisman on left, sword and catalyst on right
also press up to cycle equipped spell
Thanks very much. In that case, I might make a new character, and make sure I have the Rite of Kindling but no optional bosses killed. That should clear the way, right? Goodness, I can't believe it's almost been a year since DS came out. More excited for this DLC than anything else that's come out in the meantime.
It's been said countless times before, but This Game.
The only thing you need is to place the lordvessel.
Ventured into the DLC recently. Man,
is such an awesome fight from a mechanical standpoint but he's still kind of a pushover. Should be quite a treat in NG+ and above though.
I have a feeling the next two bosses will be assholes. I'm playing with a vitality 9 build, Chaos Blade, and the occasional Power Within, so things can get enjoyably dicey.
Artorias
I have a feeling the next two bosses will be assholes. I'm playing with a vitality 9 build, Chaos Blade, and the occasional Power Within, so things can get enjoyably dicey.
Busta SMurk
Member
Thanks. I thought it would be fun to document my play through, and share the progress with my favorite gaming community.
I'm following along with most of this thread, so figured video contributions would be a unique way to participate.
The playlist can be found at http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLFBBDE8FD663440DB&feature=plcp if anyone else wants to check it out.
I play so scummy against invaders and feel no shame for it. Kicking them on ladders, hiding around corners, sniping them halfway across the zone with poison arrows, etc. I never invade, so the way I feel about it is that I don't come into your house to fuck your dog so stay out of mine. The only people I give an honorable fight are the ones that bow, because they don't backstab me while afk then spam emotes on top of me.
I never died to an invader on ps3, but I am getting my ass kicked left and right on pc. Very first day before I even fought the gargoyles I had someone invade me spamming endless amounts of dlc spells. I was jumping all over like a coked up jack rabbit and got a backstab off that did virtually nothing. Finally got hit with a spell that one shotted me. Couldn't even indict the asshole hacker, because I was miles away from even meeting the npc for the first time.
One time I was summoned and during the animation saw my summoner sprinting away from an invader. I caught up with them to help and they were on a ledge at the top of a ladder. My summoner was almost dead and so I hurled an amazing lucky shot fireball at the phantom and saved his ass. Then the guy banishes me! You're welcome ass.
This game is gud.
I never died to an invader on ps3, but I am getting my ass kicked left and right on pc. Very first day before I even fought the gargoyles I had someone invade me spamming endless amounts of dlc spells. I was jumping all over like a coked up jack rabbit and got a backstab off that did virtually nothing. Finally got hit with a spell that one shotted me. Couldn't even indict the asshole hacker, because I was miles away from even meeting the npc for the first time.
One time I was summoned and during the animation saw my summoner sprinting away from an invader. I caught up with them to help and they were on a ledge at the top of a ladder. My summoner was almost dead and so I hurled an amazing lucky shot fireball at the phantom and saved his ass. Then the guy banishes me! You're welcome ass.
This game is gud.
rogerroger22
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Does killing the Sealer never drop the key now, or is it a 'chance to not drop the key?', having fun with my Dark Wraith and invading on my current char, and wouldn't mind doing a lower-level build.
If it's a 'never drop the key', then I'll just progress my normal route, but if it's simply a 'chance to not drop the key', make use of save backups until it does drop.
If it's a 'never drop the key', then I'll just progress my normal route, but if it's simply a 'chance to not drop the key', make use of save backups until it does drop.
rogerroger22
Member
For me, it's 'if I'm looking for PvP, I'll do a fair fight - if I'm simply trying to progress, I'll do what I need to to defend my world, even if it means using 'cheap tactics'.
rogerroger22
Member
I do think that the later half of the game lacks the same polish as the first half - things feel a little too spread out, and the level design isn't as good. I loved how inter-connected the first half of the game felt, but by the end it's more 'longish linear path with a bonfire to warp home from'.
The Boss Souls that you give to the Lord Vessel are not used for weapon upgrades, so you didn't miss out on any of that crafting - it can still be done.
You really should check out the DLC though, it's some quality content.
cleveridea
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ye olde fashioned wired internet cable = super simple solution for me lol
rogerroger22
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Only time I did that (generally don't), is when I was trying to beat O&S - getting like 20 failed summons in a row, while defending against invaders non-stop.
I'm still baffled to why I can seem to invade/be invaded fine - but can't summon help / be summoned as help for the life of me.
Sorry but this is your fault. If you go afk you dont have any right to be angry againt the one who invade you legit.
I've been having a lot of bad luck being summoned. Wasn't at all able to be summoned for the first two DLC bosses as well, which is annoying since I'd like to fight them a bunch.
It's just a mess right now.
rogerroger22
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Yup, if I'm human and need to AFK - I'll just quit game for a second, you start right back where you left off when you load again.
Although, 3 of the times I've come across someone AFK - I've given them a friendly poke or two to get their attention, backed off waited for them to heal before fighting. The 4th time - several minutes later, I just killed him.
When I invade and happen across someone who is AFK, my favorite thing to do is
- Open the shortcuts in the level if it's possible for the phantom to do (eg: painted world wheel skeletons)
- Throw dung piles at them until they go toxic
- Wait.
It's also one of the only good times to use chameleon. Many players are experienced with the subtle difference in what a chamelon item looks like and aren't fooled.
Buy an alluring skull and it will distract enough to get to the stairs and kill the dogs. Armor with high poise will allow you to eat a hit from capra without it interrupting your attack animation.
- Open the shortcuts in the level if it's possible for the phantom to do (eg: painted world wheel skeletons)
- Throw dung piles at them until they go toxic
- Wait.
It's also one of the only good times to use chameleon. Many players are experienced with the subtle difference in what a chamelon item looks like and aren't fooled.
Buy an alluring skull and it will distract enough to get to the stairs and kill the dogs. Armor with high poise will allow you to eat a hit from capra without it interrupting your attack animation.
The funniest thing just happened. So im PVP'ing Anor Londo, and i invade this one guy's world. As I'm fighting him im noticing his health not going down, so obviously he's hacking, and hes too bad to be able to kill me because im popping humanities. But i wanted to mess with him so i run over to the giant blacksmith and sit there. He knows what im trying to do so he leaves for about 5 minutes and comes back and thinks he's smart by pulling out his bow to try and shoot me. Well anyway his first arrow misses me and nails the blacksmith and the blacksmith falls over dead. 2 Seconds later "The Master has Disconnected from the Game." I couldn't stop laughing.
That is awesome too bad for him it probably saved.
Make a roll to the stairs under his first attack. Once you are on the stairs you basically one.
I don't have a high pose armor. Need coop partner.
I'm sure people will be willing to help you out. But you don't need high poise armor if you use an alluring skull and book it to the stairs
Busta SMurk
Member
That's classic! Hahahaha sucker, goes to show you, even if you hack, you can still loose.
My general strategy was to avoid his initial attack by rolling. But you don't want to roll straight into the dogs, for me this usually means rolling to the right, and then sprinting up the steps to the left. The dogs should come up the steps first so take care of them. Once they are down it is much easier. Just avoid his attacks and it shouldn't be too bad.
The fight is much easier if you summon help, if one person gets the attention of the boss, and the other takes care of the dogs then it is super easy.
rogerroger22
Member
Take a detour to the Darkroot Garden, and you can get the Wolf ring that will greatly increase poise --- if you a detour towards the
Moonlight Butterfly
Best thing to do though is when you run in - don't lock onto anything yet, dash for the stairs - take out the dogs.
Then, lure the Capra up the stairs, jump down before he attacks you - he will then jump down, leaving you with a window of opportunity to kick his ass
non-spoilery tip: don't panic.
Well he'll probably use the same tool he used to cheat infinite health to make the blacksmith alive again.
Still, it's nice that you can find ways of ruining their day through non-combat means.
cleveridea
Member
Also estoc + resin = one hit kills on dogs without them dodging (estoc gained below firelink shrine at begin of game)
that ring + hollow shield +5 balder sword + resin = first time kill (prior chars had HUGE trouble killing capra)
zephervack
Member
Dont know how easy you want me to make this fight for you but...
If you go up the stairs and then stand on the corner, on top of the Arch like structure not the stairs, the Demon will follow you but cant really hit you there, every time he tries, he just falls down to the first floor allowing you to fall on top of him with an attack, rinse and repeat a few times, done.
If it didn't take such an unreasonable amount of time to be summoned, then I wouldn't complain. Got up to take a piss after staring at the screen for half an hour and come back to someone dancing over my grave like they accomplished something.
One thing I never do in any game is cord pull. I take it how it comes.
What you originally said and what you are quoting are two vastly different things. You know that right?
And the difference between 10 and 15% is speculation on whether the game rounds or not.
To summon its +/- 10 levels + 10% and the game rounds up (or just say 15%).
I'm a first time player but based on reading, what people have indicated, and even what you quoted, this is fact.
Hint: You can only be invaded when you have NOT defeated the boss of the area. So before helping others first defeat the boss in that particular area.
VanillaCakeIsBurning
Member
I don't get it. I thought all npcs were fogged out when you invade.
the_prime_mover
Member
Hint: You can only be invaded when you have NOT defeated the boss of the area. So before helping others first defeat the boss in that particular area.
I must be missing something. How can you help others if you are human? And if hollow, how do you get invaded?
Started a new character last night and am going to keep it lower level so i can help people out. I was human and invaded by a cheater - annoying because i lost 1 humanity in the ordeal but otherwise just annoying. Also got 2 baldur swords and shields in about 10 minutes of farming. Seems like a great weapon and i love that shield (until i can get a black or silver knight shield). Can't for the life of me get them to drop their helmet for some reason.
This is largely because of the
pyromancer NPC who is trapped in a barrel, if you hit it instead of rolling he will aggro. But you can of course see him so it would be stupid to hit him.
Anyone have any tips on successfully recording? FRAPS makes my fps take a shit, and in the resulting videos my character doesn't move (it also cuts off the video after a few seconds). So for all the people recording stuff, what are you using and what settings?
Baraka in the White House
2-Terms of Kombat
Love how Sif starts to limp when you knock his health bar down enough. Seeing that was such a morale boost. Stupid giant sword wielding wolf who can still somehow move like a ballerina...
IoCaster
Member
Nah, I mean Soul of Sif, Soul of Quelaag, etc,. I hadn't gotten around to using any of them yet and when I first placed the Lordvessel I chose to offer it souls without thinking and it took all the boss souls that I had at the time. At least they weren't in my inventory anymore when I checked. Just a dumb mistake and one of the hazards that can trip someone up if they don't know how the game works. Honestly, it was a very disheartening type of screw up.
I also thought I had made it pretty clear that I don't dislike the game, but that it's a "one and done" type of thing. I'm not feeling any interest in playing it again. I've basically seen and done everything I want to in the game for now. This may change with time and I'm not explicitly writing off a possible NG+ at some point. If that happens I'll be sure to read up on how to access the DLC content.
Don't worry, you only offer the four lord souls to the lordvessel, it won't take any other ones, so those are still in your inventory. However, the lord souls show up under keys, and the other ones show up under consumables. I wouldn't worry about it unless you cared about making all of the boss weapons. Many of them aren't even very good.
And starting a new game is more fun for me than doing NG+. Definitely check out the DLC content before shelving the game, some of the best bosses are there.
Baraka in the White House
2-Terms of Kombat
Keep your eyes peeled in the Undead Burg and you'll come across an item that will allow you to see and activate summon signs from other players who can be brought into your game to help you. Naturally you can drop your own summon sign as well and be rewarded with humanity and souls for helping others beat a boss.
The flipside of the coin is that restoring your humanity also leaves you vulnerable to invasions, where other players come into your game with the intent of killing you. Certain items as well as being a member of some covenants will allow you to invade other games. But it's a bit of a dickish thing to do and chances are you'll either invade the game of a veteran Souls acolyte who will smear your ass or a game where the host has two summoned players helping them out, leaving you nearly hopelessly outnumbered. But you will have earned that for being a dick.
Your pvp experience may vary
You need a certain item to help other players. If you want the exact location, it's:
In the Undead Burg, right before you go to the bridge where the dragon keeps breathing fire. There's a guy in armor looking out at the view from the ledge. Talk to him and he'll give you the item.
You can only be invaded while in human form, and only if you haven't beaten the area's boss yet.