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Dark Souls: Prepare to Die Edition |OT| Durante Does In 23 Minutes What From Can't
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rogerroger22
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Most bosses give you a homeward bone now I thought? It's just an easy trip back to a bonfire and keeping your souls 'safe' in the process if you are so inclined.
Also, if you got as far as Pin Wheel - you should know to look around for things, I know I stumbled into ToTG quite by mistake on my first play-through and was all 'pitch black? giant skeletons? nope nope nope' and backtracked the hell outta there.
Once completing a boss I'd typically do a run-around the room and see if there was anything I had missed during the fight that would be worth checking out.
rogerroger22
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I think the last-leg of DS is some of the best parts of the game - I love the final levels of World 1, and the boss fight is loads of fun. On the other hand, I think the last leg of Dark Souls is probably the weakest part of the game - Undead Burg/Parish/Lower Burg/Depths/Blight Town/Sens are all stellar levels --- I find that Anor Londo leaves a dramatic first impression, but the actual level then feels a bit wasted.
I know from a lore perspective it makes a little sense, but I really wish that there was more to Anor Londo, a few sub-sections, more of the 'moving bridges/landscape around to access parts of the castle'/etc.
The start of the game feels like this artfully crafted inter-locking world with all sorts of short cuts/hidden passages/etc, then once you get the Lord Vessel, feels more like a 'straight line down to a bonfire'. Considering you can see both Ash Lake / Demon Ruins from ToTG - why isn't there a hidden way to get there and connect the two?
I also feel like the Demon Ruins and Lost Izalith were a lost/wasted opportunity -- I remember when I was watching the first streams of DkS when it came out for consoles and doing the 'i want to watch, no, I don't want to spoil' torture-myself game, seeing a player enter the Demon Ruins, thinking 'omg, looks SO COOL' then quit watching immediately after as I didn't want to spoil anymore for myself - then getting there on my own, and felt a bit disappointed.
Such a lost opportunity to make a rather dastardly/evil feeling lava-based level just to do 'big field of laval, repeat old bosses!'
The Architecture of Lost Izalith has potential - but also feels wasted, and on my first play through, dealing with pre-patched Dino-Ass land, I just wanted the fuck out of there --- revisiting it on the PC, I hate it /slightly/ less now - but still feel like it was a let down.
Don't get me wrong, love this game to death --- probably my favorite game ever actually, but that just makes me that much more nit-picky and critical of the parts that don't stand up to the quality of the first parts of the game.
Red Liquorice
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I never thought about this, but I can see how the ladder out of
Pinwheel's room
You have to think though, if that was a dead end, what do you think the makers expect you to do since the way in is a drop? There are no real dead ends in DS where boss rooms are concerned, if you can't get out the way you came in, there must be another way out, or a bonfire.
balder swag sword is better than both.
Painted World is just gorgeous
downsampled from 1440p, 16x AF, SSAO, SMAA
Ya I didn't even think about it, I just looked around until I found something. I can see where people might Homeward Bone out though.
downsampled from 1440p, 16x AF, SSAO, SMAA
Ya I didn't even think about it, I just looked around until I found something. I can see where people might Homeward Bone out though.
rogerroger22
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Guess one of the times where From tried to make something easier/more user friendly, actually caused confusion/problems
First time I killed Pinwheel - didn't get a homeward bone, and had to explore the area to figure out how to leave.
I don't see how people had all that trouble getting out of that room. You're naturally attracted to the pile of books, and the ladder is just there, no need of any weird camera angles or anything to see it. Just hug the wall and you'll find it. Can't believe people made it to Tomb of the Giants only to get stuck in that silly room
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
Your ridiculous(ly powerful) computer is starting to piss me offWohooo new armor get!
I don't see how people had all that trouble getting out of that room. You're naturally attracted to the pile of books, and the ladder is just there, no need of any weird camera angles or anything to see it. Just hug the wall and you'll find it. Can't believe people made it to Tomb of the Giants only to get stuck in that silly room
It's even in clear view, to the right of the player's viewpoint when he grabs the loot from Pinwheel. Not like it's set behind a hidden wall. Some people...
zephervack
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Its so rewarding seeing this after finishing Sen's Fortress
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
I didn't like most of the areas towards the end of the game, I found myself just eager to find the route to the boss gate to get it over with.
rogerroger22
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I liked New Londo, it did make me rage quite a bit while learning/figuring out the level - but once you got the hang of it, rather neat. Also great once it's drained - the ambient sounds, the drips - listening carefully for foot steps of enemies/etc.
But god, how I used to die, and die..and die some more there.
But god, how I used to die, and die..and die some more there.
Mister0079
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Thanks for the tips on passing the Knights-with-huge-bows (whatever their name is), it was really easy when I equipped the lightest armor and just sprinted to them and they fell to their deaths when following me, lol.
And now I'm getting my ass kicked by Executioner Smough & Dragonslayer Ornstein.
And now I'm getting my ass kicked by Executioner Smough & Dragonslayer Ornstein.
Where's this? I picked the Pendant as starting gift since it's what Miyazaki suggested (asshole)
rogerroger22
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Where's this? I picked the Pendant as starting gift since it's what Miyazaki suggested (asshole)
If you didn't pick it as a gift, you need to do a trade-in with snuggly.
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
My middling machine can't manage all that SSAO and new DOF stuff, but DSFix made this game far more gorgeous than I honestly expected. A collection of my favourite HUDless images I've taken on my journey from start to current:
Just so many varied environments, brilliant use of palette. Fallen in love with game of the generation all over again
Just so many varied environments, brilliant use of palette. Fallen in love with game of the generation all over again
So I killed the moonlight butterfly and I got the watchtower keys though I can't find the door leading to it. Any ideas?
Also where should I go next? Blighttown? Garden Basin? I can't kill that huge monster there which shoots water. Also I'm way too weak for the dragon area.
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Also, where can I get huge shards?
Also where should I go next? Blighttown? Garden Basin? I can't kill that huge monster there which shoots water. Also I'm way too weak for the dragon area.
EDIT:
Also, where can I get huge shards?
So...I can pretty much skip all of Lower Undeadburg, The Depths, and Blighttown with the master key, correct? Am I missing anything big by skipping all that? Would make a second playthrough more enjoyable.
BSS + 15 >= SKS + 5 > BSS + 10
Kind of a toss up between BSS + 15 and SKS + 5. Depends on the fight. SKS + 5 has a strong R1 attack, but BSS + 15 has a stronger R2 attack with more range (though it may not work as well on big enemies like dragons).
BSS + 15 >= SKS + 5 > BSS + 10
Kind of a toss up between BSS + 15 and SKS + 5. Depends on the fight. SKS + 5 has a strong R1 attack, but BSS + 15 has a stronger R2 attack with more range (though it may not work as well on big enemies like dragons).
rogerroger22
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Pretty much, main thing you would be missing is the Large Ember from The Depths for upgrading weapons from +5 to +10. Depending on your build / weapons you want to use - this may or may not be a big deal.
Also, you still need to do Blight Town, but can skip a large portion of it - although I've ended up crawling back up for some of the items with some characters (Iaito, Eagle Shield, Ninja Armor set)
Baraka in the White House
2-Terms of Kombat
You can either head to the Darkroot Basin and take out Sif or into Blighttown for the second bell. Killing the hydra is a little tricky but you'll basically want to run toward it (crazy, I know) while juking around the water blasts until you're standing a few dozen feet away from it. Don't get TOO close or else you'll fall into the deep pool where the creature sits. You can see the edge if you look at the water closely. You'll know you're in the right spot because the hydra will stop trying to spit water at you and will attack with its heads. Simply keep your shield up to block the head strikes then hack them off one at a time.
Hmmmm...that could be an issue.
If I'm playing NG+, do I need to find all the embers again?
When I was fighting Kalameet I busted out the Balder Side Sword's 2H R1 attack for more vertical range which allowed me to easily reach the tail. The weapon's moveset is just godlike, it's got an answer for everything.
rogerroger22
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Yep, need to find all of the embers again. It's probably a good idea to upgrade the items you want to use before starting NG+, the last level of the game is great for farming chunks - I try and get everything I want to use fully upgraded before going onto NG+.
Man wearing light armor on this new character is so good, I'm so fucking fast.
Yes you do.
Yes you do.
I haven't played in a few days and I was so rusty today. It was ridiculous how many easy deaths I had.
Ya I can't go over 25% equip load anymore
Ya I can't go over 25% equip load anymore
Busta SMurk
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OK, part 28 is up: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QeTRURrLkjA&list=PLFBBDE8FD663440DB&index=28&feature=plpp_video
I noticed I'm a little late on the talks about
but I got part 28 up with my trek down there.
It's pretty ridiculous, so I used a weak weapon to make it a little more fun. Now, time to go visit the
I noticed I'm a little late on the talks about
Pinwheel in the Catacombs
It's pretty ridiculous, so I used a weak weapon to make it a little more fun. Now, time to go visit the
Gravelord.
zephervack
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Thats what I have been doing, I dont even understand how people can play with slow characters, Im not patient enough for the roll animations when you are too heavy.
Though Im considering suiting up to fight the damn 2 titanite demons at Sen's Fortress, I wasted so many pine resins already and I cant kill them both.
I killed a mimic in the township and got a key I thought...but maybe htat was a sorcery....never met gough yet.....I'll keep looking! Thanks.
The watchtower keys open a door near the hydra, although the master key will open this one as well making the watchtower keys redundant. You can open from the berg side as well via a door just before where you go up the stairs to Taurus demon. If you go from the butterfly area back toward the parish...take a left toward the basin...alternatively you can go out from the garden down a huge ladder close to hydra to get there as well but it is much more dangerous.
I am not sure what you have/havent done yet, but ringing both bells is still on your list I presume....if you already killed gargoyles, then you want to make your way to blighttown to kill queelag. You can do it one of two ways...either through the depths (requires killing capra) or backdoor via the valley of the drakes...drakes are tough but can be run by easily at any level. I strongly suggest the backdoor...it is easily the most preferred route of the developers and they give you lots of rewards for your creativity and ingenuity for figuring it out. I am just aghast every time I see the advice that you should go through the depths and do the whole blighttown area first before queelag because that was "what was intended." If it wasn't intended to have the backdoor and a master key etc. they wouldnt have made one..its not like its a glitch fer cripes sake!
I assume by huge you mean large titanite and not chunks ...which are even bigger than shards...they can be purchsed from a vendor in sens fortress, and later in Anor londo, which doesn't open until you ring the bells....RING THOSE BELLS! You will have to grind a lot of slugs in blighttown or the slime in the depths otherwise, or hope you get lucky on non-respawing big ass knight in the parish...lizards sometimes drop then as well do they not or is that chunks only ???!? Can't remember...becuase I never upgrade that far at that point....I use shit equipment for the bells then start upgrading after.....just get through the first two bell bosses first ...then come back with upgrades to kick ass on capra, gaping, hydra and sif afterward.
join the club bro...I only thought it was noobs that allowed themselves to be weighted down at all...??!?!!? even my strength characters carry more weight in their weapon than they have on their body...this goes back to demon's for me where my favorite build was the demon mage with the greatsword and homing soul arrows. Something great about an "eastern traveler" "very slim" chick that likes to carry a monster weapon around and has the endurance to roll with it.
I can work with the mid-roll though, quite well. But yeah overall I'm always looking for ways to limit equip load. Probably the most satisfying outcome of pumping endurance.
I am the opposite. This is my third playthrough, and I now prefer wearing a heavy armor (black knight or Havel) and just ignore enemy hits so I can concentrate on zweihander'ing the fuck out of everyone.
Game becomes waaay easier.
Just got the Very Large Ember, about to take on the 4 Kings.
I've been using my Estoc for the majority of my playthrough and it has never failed me. I want to upgrade it from +14 to +15 but I understand Slabs are very hard to come by. Do you guys think I should upgrade or save it for something else?
I've been using my Estoc for the majority of my playthrough and it has never failed me. I want to upgrade it from +14 to +15 but I understand Slabs are very hard to come by. Do you guys think I should upgrade or save it for something else?
If you've been happy with it up to this point then you may as well stick with it.
The majority of weapons are viable as long as you're comfortable with the move set.
I killed that fucking water hydra thing and that stupid knight guarding the watchtower entrance. Take that you fuckers. I then ascended in the upper gardens, noticed that the tree-guys are much stronger there and saw some sort of wolf from the distance. And I ran away like a little girl to save my soul(s).
Im level 37 now, what should I tackle next? Blighttown or the upper gardens?
Also I gave the smith some gadgets several times, he always told me "you'll get something great just wait and see" and I never got something so far.
Im level 37 now, what should I tackle next? Blighttown or the upper gardens?
Also I gave the smith some gadgets several times, he always told me "you'll get something great just wait and see" and I never got something so far.
Beat Manus last night. He looks awesome, though much like Artorias, he's an enjoyable fight mechanically but was underwhelming difficulty-wise on NG. I even forgot to equip the Silver Pendant, and just dodged his magic attacks.
They're likely to be more punishing in NG+, especially with use of the Calamity ring. I think Kalameet was much more difficult than the other DLC bosses.
They're likely to be more punishing in NG+, especially with use of the Calamity ring. I think Kalameet was much more difficult than the other DLC bosses.
I assume you mean ladders? 2nd tier for BT is to ignore the ladders completely and just jump down to the next platform.
that depends on you...if you love your estoc and it is your primary weapon than by all means go for it...you will get the chance to get 2 slabs per playthrough, one for stray demon and one for the siegermeyer/siegelinde quest.....it is very easy to screw up this quest however...even after 1000 hours of souls and guides etc. I just screwed it up on my PC DLC playthrough....I bet I have done it only 2 times in all of 5 or 6 attempts (many other characters used BB glitch so was not important.) Apparently more people are getting SLABS from farming darkwraiths in new londo...still rare, but I actually got one for the first time every on this PC playthrough so it makes up for the loss with siegermeyer.
RING The bells -
It unlocks the modify equipment tab where you can ascend weapons to +6, +11, or different elemental properties, depending on the ember you gave him
AcceptableGhost
Member
Did you fight the dual sanctuary guardians? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOglL601_T0 Not technically a boss but pretty neat. The Sanctuary Guardian boss fight probably should have been two of them from the get go.
Pretty great DLC bosses, the DLC levels themselves are only OK though.
Whoa, didn't even know about that. Guess I know what I'm doing next.
And I enjoyed the DLC areas a lot. Only issue I had with them is they're a bit small.
How do you trigger this? Just clear the DLC?
Yeah, you just need to beat Manus, and they wind up being respawning enemies in the area you fought the first one.
I ended up beating both without the tunnel cheese with a Reinforced Club +15 last night. Pretty awesome, but the tails are still pretty useless, would be better if they inflicted toxic after enough hits.
Busta SMurk
Member
***Slight spoiler warning for new players***
Does anybody know what to do if patches goes hostile? I accidentally said yes I'm a Cleric to him, and now he's going crazy on me when he sees me in TotG. I let him push me in and came back and he wanted to kill me, he said something along the lines of having to do it himself, and just goes nuts.
Is there anyway to get him into Firelink if I accidentally said yes to him?
Does anybody know what to do if patches goes hostile? I accidentally said yes I'm a Cleric to him, and now he's going crazy on me when he sees me in TotG. I let him push me in and came back and he wanted to kill me, he said something along the lines of having to do it himself, and just goes nuts.
Is there anyway to get him into Firelink if I accidentally said yes to him?