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Dark Souls: Prepare to Die Edition |OT| Durante Does In 23 Minutes What From Can't
- Thread starter indigo-cyclops
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Invading as a Forest Covenanter is a lot less fun that I hoped it'd be. Fighting is alright but they can heal and you can't and you can't even interrupt their healing, and half the times you get lagstabbed by full Havel set people that just back into a corner and spam parry. Really, unlike co-op, the PVP in this game is very dull and I don't think I'll do it again.
My secret technique so far is using toxic cloud so I can kill them bit by bit lol
My secret technique so far is using toxic cloud so I can kill them bit by bit lol
Invading as a Forest Covenanter is a lot less fun that I hoped it'd be. Fighting is alright but they can heal and you can't and you can't even interrupt their healing, and half the times you get lagstabbed by full Havel set people that just back into a corner and spam parry. Really, unlike co-op, the PVP in this game is very dull and I don't think I'll do it again.
My secret technique so far is using toxic cloud so I can kill them bit by bit lol
People just farm forest covenanters as far as I can tell. The only time it was any fun to me was when I was fighting some guy who was wandering around with 600k souls on him for some reason I could fathom. He rolled off a cliff by accident mid-fight.
Seems so, I'm pretty disappointed :/People just farm forest covenanters as far as I can tell. The only time it was any fun to me was when I was fighting some guy who was wandering around with 600k souls on him for some reason I could fathom. He rolled off a cliff by accident mid-fight.
For some reason backstabs won't ever register (they did when I was invaded just running in human form) but it's true I could use a better weapon. Right now I don't like the ones I have...You need a different kind of weapon. With my lifehunt scythe, if they stop in front of me to heal its basically game over for them.
A good backstab weapon works too.
zephervack
Member
This game couldnt be any more cryptic even if it tried.
I joined the foresr covenant, than went to the bonfire, i go back to the forest and see the crazy assassins have respawned again so I rush and 1 hit kill one guy and lo and behold I have now betrayed the covenant >_>
I joined the foresr covenant, than went to the bonfire, i go back to the forest and see the crazy assassins have respawned again so I rush and 1 hit kill one guy and lo and behold I have now betrayed the covenant >_>
This game couldnt be any more cryptic even if it tried.
I joined the foresr covenant, than went to the bonfire, i go back to the forest and see the crazy assassins have respawned again so I rush and 1 hit kill one guy and lo and behold I have now betrayed the covenant >_>
Why would you kill one of your own? You joined them, they are like your brothers.
This game couldnt be any more cryptic even if it tried.
I joined the foresr covenant, than went to the bonfire, i go back to the forest and see the crazy assassins have respawned again so I rush and 1 hit kill one guy and lo and behold I have now betrayed the covenant >_>
You shouldn't have done that....
Lost about 30 humanity on O+S in NG+ (no useful magic, just melee). All my summons failed, so i had to rely on Solaire for assistance. I often couldn't even get to him because of the ridiculously tough giant guards. And when I did get into the fight, I had to race solaire to kill the right guy first. And then he always died immediately in the second part.
I don't want to think about Four Kings NG+ without magic..
I don't want to think about Four Kings NG+ without magic..
zephervack
Member
Why would you kill one of your own? You joined them, they are like your brothers.
Well they were less than friendly the first time i killed them all so i was afraid of them
Is there any way to fix it?
Well they were less than friendly the first time i killed them all so i was afraid of them
Is there any way to fix it?
Yes, you can absolve your sins by paying (a shitload of) souls to Oswald of Carim. It's that guy in the tower after you defeated the twin Gargoyles. To see if you have sinned or not, you can buy the Book of the Guilty from the same guy for 1000 souls.
Busta SMurk
Member
Well they were less than friendly the first time i killed them all so i was afraid of them
Is there any way to fix it?
Request absolution from Oswald. You know the dude on the church roof before the first bell?
zephervack
Member
Cool thx guys
This game couldnt be any more cryptic even if it tried.
I joined the foresr covenant, than went to the bonfire, i go back to the forest and see the crazy assassins have respawned again so I rush and 1 hit kill one guy and lo and behold I have now betrayed the covenant >_>
Even the level design is cryptic as hell. I would've never found the bridge to the church in the Londo. Never ever. Even when I knew that here is the place where it needs to go on.
Even the level design is cryptic as hell. I would've never found the bridge to the church in the Londo. Never ever. Even when I knew that here is the place where it needs to go on.
You mean through the broken window? Yep, that is the biggest bullshit, now way would I know where to go without reading a guide. Haha, I think Anor Londo has the most bullshit stuff going on, the broken window and those two archers, ugh.....
AcceptableGhost
Member
You mean through the broken window? Yep, that is the biggest bullshit, now way would I know where to go without reading a guide. Haha, I think Anor Londo has the most bullshit stuff going on, the broken window and those two archers, ugh.....
I don't see how you could miss it... it is literally the only way you can go.
I don't see how you could miss it... it is literally the only way you can go.
Are we talking about the same thing? I'm talking about that part after defeating the Gargoyle. You first have to drop down a bit and walk on the roof tiles. Not just very easy to miss, but just plain not seeing it!
The two archers in Anor Londo is the worst designed part of the entire game.You mean through the broken window? Yep, that is the biggest bullshit, now way would I know where to go without reading a guide. Haha, I think Anor Londo has the most bullshit stuff going on, the broken window and those two archers, ugh.....
AcceptableGhost
Member
Are we talking about the same thing? I'm talking about that part after defeating the Gargoyle. You first have to drop down a bit and walk on the roof tiles. Not just very easy to miss, but just plain not seeing it!
Well I think if your exploring around you will probably drop down (there is a treasure chest around there as well) and then the path to the window is basically unmissable.
The two archers in Anor Londo is the worst designed part of the entire game.
Can someone explain what their problem is with the two archers?
Well I think if your exploring around you will probably drop down (there is a treasure chest around there as well) and then the path to the window is basically unmissable.
Can someone explain what their problem is with the two archers?
ONLY if you know that you CAN drop down on those tiny tiles, then yes, the window is obviously unmissable.
And about the two archers:
The two archers in Anor Londo is the worst designed part of the entire game.
That was just straight up cheap. Not only are there two of them, but they are standing on the opposite sides of each other. So when you're facing one, you can't see the other, but of course they are both shooting "rockets" at you and you have to evade the one which is facing your back. And when you get hit, you will most likely fall to your're death, even if you block you most likely slide off the edge and also fall to your death. You then have to run all the way back and will probably not be your only time doing that.
I seriously don't remember any other parts in the game, just navigating through a level (except for a certain boss) that's this annoying and cheap.
People keep getting hit by themCan someone explain what their problem is with the two archers?
AcceptableGhost
Member
If you position your body to be facing diagonally to the wall (back to the wall but shield angled enough to block the arrow) the arrows will never knock you off the platform. The archer on the right has a tendency to also jump off the building lol.
Well I think if your exploring around you will probably drop down (there is a treasure chest around there as well) and then the path to the window is basically unmissable.
Come on now...I like the game but that's a bit overly defensive. I consider those things as part of the "community experience". No way in hell I could finish this game without GAF and YouTube, that's just how it is. I don't think From Software really considers that, they are just lucky that their gamedesign and online communities blend very well. I don't even believe that they fully understand it what's going on with their Souls games. Maybe. I don't know.
I'm really confused, since the archers were really simple for me to deal with. I ran to the right archer first, and the left archer's arrows were blocked by a pillar while I took care of him (her?). Then I could take care of the left archer at my leisure. Are there certain conditions under which that happens?That was just straight up cheap. Not only are there two of them, but they are standing on the opposite sides of each other. So when you're facing one, you can't see the other, but of course they are both shooting "rockets" at you and you have to evade the one which is facing your back. And when you get hit, you will most likely fall to your're death, even if you block you most likely slide off the edge and also fall to your death. You then have to run all the way back and will probably not be your only time doing that.
I seriously don't remember any other parts in the game, just navigating through a level (except for a certain boss) that's this annoying and cheap.
Phonomezer
Banned
Geez guys, just use poison arrows on the archers.
Come on now...I like the game but that's a bit overly defensive. I consider those things as part of the "community experience". No way in hell I could finish this game without GAF and YouTube, that's just how it is. I don't think From Software really considers that, they are just lucky that their gamedesign and online communities blend very well. I don't even believe that they fully understand it what's going on with their Souls games. Maybe. I don't know.
They give enough visual cues so that you don't need to be online to get hints; it's just a matter of close observation.
I found out you can parry arrows. Totally neglects the knockback.
Nice, I never knew that!
Nice, I never knew that!
I wonder if that means you can parry other spear-like objects that are tossed at you.
I wonder if that means you can parry other spear-like objects that are tossed at you.
Maybe you can parry a boulder. Chris Redfield eat your heart out!
Wtf you can seriously parry arrows?
And lol @ about yet another discussion re: AL archers. There were so many parts that were more difficult than that my first playthrough. Interesting that so many people seem to get stuck here. Just run. Roll through the arrow. Knock the knight off the ledge. Done. I'm sure now that I'm saying this I'll die on the archers when I record it on the playthrough I'm doing.
And lol @ about yet another discussion re: AL archers. There were so many parts that were more difficult than that my first playthrough. Interesting that so many people seem to get stuck here. Just run. Roll through the arrow. Knock the knight off the ledge. Done. I'm sure now that I'm saying this I'll die on the archers when I record it on the playthrough I'm doing.
jerpdoesgames
Member
No they can be OP at times. I found out you can parry arrows. Totally neglects the knockback.
Wow, didn't know about the knockback. That's hugely useful.
AlphaDragoon
Member
The Anor Londo archers are another example of thinking something in Dark Souls is impossible until you play the game enough times and realize it isn't.
Even if I might screw up once or twice on some playthroughs, I can get through the archers without even using a shield.
Even if I might screw up once or twice on some playthroughs, I can get through the archers without even using a shield.
I thought the archers were pretty easy. Once you get to the end of the ramp, the archer on the left is being blocked by the column so it's just one archer. Then it's just a matter of dodging/blocking the other archer and getting close enough so he goes melee.
The Anor Londo archers are another example of thinking something in Dark Souls is impossible until you play the game enough times and realize it isn't.
Even if I might screw up once or twice on some playthroughs, I can get through the archers without even using a shield.
It's actually better when NOT using a shield and probably easier. Just roll, roll, roll.
I summoned a guy and he dropped me 50 divine blessings. How is that possible? I've only ever seen a few in multiple playrhroughs. Was that a cheat or legit?
They can be bought later on and once you stop leveling and have your gear you have enough disposable income to be kind.
EatinOlives
Member
They give enough visual cues so that you don't need to be online to get hints; it's just a matter of close observation.
There's no way to tell that you can walk on the roof tiles, though. They're curved in a way that it's very easy to believe that you'll just slide off them and into your death. There are plenty of other instances in the game where you have slightly curved things that the designers just arbitrarily chose not to let you walk on them.
The only reason I knew where to go is because people had written "GO HERE", and even then I thought I was doing some weirdass shortcut. I didn't know that's actually the only way to progress.
You can bought like 2 of them for playtrough, unless he's in NG+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ is kind hard to have 99 of them...
99*1000 is not that much...
Rhea
She only sells one though afaik.99*1000 is not that much....Rhea
She only sells one though afaik.
You are right, I apologize.
I thought the archers were pretty easy. Once you get to the end of the ramp, the archer on the left is being blocked by the column so it's just one archer. Then it's just a matter of dodging/blocking the other archer and getting close enough so he goes melee.
This. If you just run they won't even hit you until you're on same ledge as them, and by then one of them can't hit you any more.
The biggest diffuculty is that if you do fall, you'll have to run past the giant knights and fight a bunch of demons again, but I think the Capra demon is much cheaper.
No they can be OP at times. I found out you can parry arrows. Totally neglects the knockback.
Mind blown. Godlike.
Mister0079
Member
Just found the Parrying Dagger in
. It has a full 1 second parrying window. Godlike.
New Londo Ruins
There's no way to tell that you can walk on the roof tiles, though. They're curved in a way that it's very easy to believe that you'll just slide off them and into your death. There are plenty of other instances in the game where you have slightly curved things that the designers just arbitrarily chose not to let you walk on them.
The only reason I knew where to go is because people had written "GO HERE", and even then I thought I was doing some weirdass shortcut. I didn't know that's actually the only way to progress.
You can see the open door from the ground level, and there's an elevated surface that conveniently goes high enough to reach it. It's just simple logic, really.
Just found the Parrying Dagger in. It has a full 1 second parrying window. Godlike.New Londo Ruins
I can never parry with that or the Target Shield. Too used to the timing with regular shields/barehand.