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Dark Souls: Prepare to Die Edition |OT| Durante Does In 23 Minutes What From Can't

I think I made a mistake going with dex build. I rang the 2nd bell and all the weaon options suck right now.

nah dex is sweet, but you do need a decent weapon. kill the knights near undead parish for a balder side sword if you want the best dex-scaling in the game, though personally I prefer rapiers for a dex build because you can jab away at things with your shield up. also, the short bow has s-class scaling from dex right off the bat so you can use it for long-range carnage.
 
I always find DEX weapons come in to there own a little later once you've levelled up the stat a little.

Right now I'm playing a DEX build, or the startings of one. Been using a Falchion+15 after grinding large shards from the slugs, then getting a slab from the Stray Demon. Been ripping through everything until I hit Sen's and a ripost on the Lizard Men was doing something like 295 damage - pitiful! So I made a Fire Shotel+7, wondering where I can get more Red Chunk from to take it further - (I did a suicide run to Demon Ruins for the large flame ember), got the chunks from the Knights in the Asylum, still haven't been to the Great Hollow, too much active humanity to risk a couple of stupid falls. Even the Fire Shotel is only doing just over 400 off a riposte. I only have 14 DEX though.
 

Afrocious

Member
I couldn't decide on what kind of build I wanted to go for, so I now have STR - 29 and DEX - 28.

Forget about that though, I need some gaffers to help me with Smough and Ornstein. These fuckers are hard.
 
Finally starting to see the end of the tunnel. Just got done defeating Seath and he was extremely easy. I think I might have overleveled my character before fighting him. Oh well, off to the Catacombs.
 

Antiwhippy

the holder of the trombone
I couldn't decide on what kind of build I wanted to go for, so I now have STR - 29 and DEX - 28.

Forget about that though, I need some gaffers to help me with Smough and Ornstein. These fuckers are hard.

If you summon solaire the fight becomes 10x easier.
 

ParityBit

Member
Just normal shards.

Then you can turn it into a chaos blade at +10.

If you don't want to kill the merchant just wait till you get to darkroot forest and join the forest covenant. Then you'll be able to buy it.

I think I bought everything from him I need. I have been de ting it though! I am sick of the tail...
 
I've just started Dark Souls as a Cleric. I have obtained Astora's Straight Sword and the Dragon Crest Shield from the Valley of the Drakes. What now? I increased DEX to 10 to equip the aforementioned items but I have absolutely no idea what to level up from here on out.

Can someone please recommend a build for someone new to the game or give me some suggestions/advice on how best to progress in terms of Stats and Soul Level?

Thanks in advance.
 

JRW

Member
In the Undead Burg Is it normal for the red dragon on the bridge to disappear if you reach the bonfire behind it?
 

ArynCrinn

Banned
Some NPCs are invading phantoms, though. If they drop actual loot, they're NPCs.

I drop loot all the time when I invade. Nothing better than doing a near complete Deprived playthrough and dropping a Balder Side Sword & Balder Shield set for a noob after ganking them in the Burg! Sometimes if I'm bored I'll +14 a Balder Side Sword and drop that. :p

In the Undead Burg Is it normal for the red dragon on the bridge to disappear if you reach the bonfire behind it?

Yes.
 

2AdEPT

Member
I drop loot all the time when I invade. Nothing better than doing a near complete Deprived playthrough and dropping a Balder Side Sword & Balder Shield set for a noob after ganking them in the Burg! Sometimes if I'm bored I'll +14 a Balder Side Sword and drop that.

notwthstanding your magnanomous chivalry...it is still easy to differentiate becuase he killed kirk in the depths and got THE sword he drops....you either drop before killing them or after on the next round. ;)

i love kirk
he appears three times...if you kill him in all three spots you can find his full set of armour...it does damage on roll...it is not a huge amount but the stun affectg nakes you much more formidable....its a kick asss looking set as well.

the depths is definitely one of the kirk spots and the fact he dropped the barbred sword when he killed him means it was almost definitely the NPC version.
Can someone please recommend a build for someone new to the game or give me some suggestions/advice on how best to progress in terms of Stats and Soul Level?

Thanks in advance.

if you started as a cleric the logical thing to do is to carry on with faith...you can add either str of dex....i recommend dex. Don't bother with occult or divine the damge sucks. Stay with normal weapon path and tkae your faith to 18 by the end of anor londo at the latest...you will get a good attack miracle...as long as you ensure to find sigermeyer...look him up. Also joining the sunbros will enable you to throw lightning bolts...this is highly recommended...maybe even before you worry about the other miracle actually Finally you can cap at 40 and use either sunlight or darkmoon buffs on your +15 weapons for the most crazy damage. You will be a flippin jedi.

don't take you sl too high...you will be 30 or so by the time you ring both bells and 50 when you get the lordvessel...you need some end...and enough dex to hoold the weapons katanas and rapiers, or the balder side sword if it drops......but not much vitality...learn not to get hit by staying light..wear robes not armour....you are a jedi not a stormtrooper. Keeeping low SL will enable you to assist others in coop and get the sunlight medals you need for lightning bolts.
 

RedSwirl

Junior Member
I tried to start out as a DEX build but ended up finding no DEX weapons but a Black Knight Halberd instead. So now I've switched to a strength/endurance build mid-game. That's probably cost me some levels.

Man, this game was basically made for min-maxing.

I've got 32 dex right now, still rocking the starting scimitar at +5 :(

See that's basically what got me through the entirety of Demon's Souls. I started out as a knight but found a scimitar in 1-1 and just kept reinforcing that.
 

ArynCrinn

Banned
notwthstanding your magnanomous chivalry...it is still easy to differentiate becuase he killed kirk in the depths and got THE sword he drops....you either drop before killing them or after on the next round. ;)

i love kirk
he appears three times...if you kill him in all three spots you can find his full set of armour...it does damage on roll...it is not a huge amount but the stun affectg nakes you much more formidable....its a kick asss looking set as well.

the depths is definitely one of the kirk spots and the fact he dropped the barbred sword when he killed him means it was almost definitely the NPC version.

Yeah, I'm 99.9% sure it was just the NPC phantom of Kirk if he was human and in the Depths near the boss hall, and got the drop. He's lucky, sometimes I have to wait for Demon Ruins or Izalith for the drop. If it was a real human, he was a damn good copycat.
 

2AdEPT

Member
I tried to start out as a DEX build but ended up finding no DEX weapons but a Black Knight Halberd instead. So now I've switched to a strength/endurance build mid-game. That's probably cost me some levels.

Man, this game was basically made for min-maxing.



See that's basically what got me through the entirety of Demon's Souls. I started out as a knight but found a scimitar in 1-1 and just kept reinforcing that.

don't riase your str further than 22...you can two hand your halberd there...you will have more room for other things later...str is a killer when it is mostly unnecesary unless you specialize in str and need the scaling.
 

NBtoaster

Member
Seems the steam sale almost quadrupled the number of players. Used to be 1000-2000 max concurrent players daily, todays peak was 7624.
 

Soulhouf

Member
I tended to agree when I didn't actually do it myself, maybe its because with my strategy I didn't even use the shield I had, grass crest on back...even our SL 1 run you helped me with it as a SL1 character and it was easy as pie....but solo I used the pillars, was very patient, and it still took me multiple tries, got frustrated and summoned solaire...I knew I could do it and ironically the time I did do it, I did all the work and solaire died almost within seconds of our arrival...but the amount of cheesy hits that ornstein got on me by floating around the area was ridiculous...seemed like trivial luck the at the time I was successful he just happened to miss me by inches instead of getting me by inches etc. Once it was super smough one on one....It was like (k)night and day....the poor bastard had zero chance ...only used half an estus just pinning him behind the pillar and smacking him with the halberd one or two hits at time.

thanks for the reminder about the Demons event! off to start a new character immediately! I never did a dex character ever only magic faith and strnght ones....might go female and use whats her face (miranda?) armour from the first gate being unlocked owing to pure white!!!

anyone wants to co-op my PS3 ID is adepterik2

Yeah, I remember very well that epic fight SL1 no upgrade we did. I never use the pillars against S&O and that's what makes the difference for me I think. I just stay as close as possible and run when he does the lightning butt slam.

I will be playing Demon's Souls SL1. PM me if you're interested to co-op, it could be fun.

I've got 32 dex right now, still rocking the starting scimitar at +5 :(
How did you up your dex to 32 and still don't have a good dex weapon? Also, only scimitar +5? c'mon...

Here are some awesome dex weapons you should have by now:
- Ushigatana
- Iaito
- Chaos Blade
- Balder Side Sword
- Ricard's Rapier
- Great Scythe

Dexterity builds are very effective in Dark Souls, especially if you use a bleeding weapon such as katana or Great Scythe. You can do 2-3 slashes before any boss can attack and you will kill most of the enemies before they can react.
 

Antiwhippy

the holder of the trombone
Only if you really want repair powders and lloyd's talismans, which I don't think you can buy from anyone else in the game. Lloyd talisman is useful for PVP when you're invading, and I find that most of the time I could just go to a bonfire to repair my stuff with a repairbox (which he sells, get that by the way), even with the really low durability of the all katanas. Stock up on it anyway if you're concerned. It's pretty cheap.

Other than that I'd say make sure to get the residence key, and then you are pretty much done with him.
 

Soulhouf

Member
Repair powder is a must for weapons that have special R2 attack.
The Moonlight Great Sword for example, its durability will break after a few R2 attacks. When that happens, use the repair powder to repair it, it's like MP herbs for spells when you run out of MP in other games.
Also there are some enemies who will break your weapon with some kind of acid. Whenever that happens, if you don't have repair powder, you will be in trouble.
 
Ugh, any way to turn off/change lock on selection from mouse? Fucked up way to many situations.


Hopefully you are already using Durantes dsfix. If so you need the dsmousefix as well. I'm not sure how you could be playing without dsmousefix though.

http://pages.cs.wisc.edu/~petska/

Allows you to configure your buttons as well as adjust sensitivity. I have guard bound to mouse 4 and parry bound to muse 5 and switched lock on to F (use in game keymapping to set the lock on ). But you can switch it to whatever button you are comfortable with.
 

Raide

Member
Te get uchigatana ... or to not .... I can't decide :)

Its a hard choice. He does sell the repair powder pretty cheaply and that can be handy and the Lloyd Talismans as well. To be honest, if you can dominate the early part of Dark Souls, then he is really not needed.
 
Balder side sword
Drake sword
Claymore
Rapier
Battle Axe
Gargoyle tail axe
Spear
Halberd

heater shield
knights shield

None upgraded. What my best weapon? I would prefer to not use a 2 hand weapon just because I really love using shields :D

17 Titanite shard
4 titanite chunk
2 twinkling titanite

Thats what I have for upgrading. Or do I need to use souls to upgrade at the blacksmith?
 

Sullichin

Member
Balder side sword
Drake sword
Claymore
Rapier
Battle Axe
Gargoyle tail axe
Spear
Halberd

heater shield
knights shield

None upgraded. What my best weapon? I would prefer to not use a 2 hand weapon just because I really love using shields :D

17 Titanite shard
4 titanite chunk
2 twinkling titanite

Thats what I have for upgrading. Or do I need to use souls to upgrade at the blacksmith?
Out of those, I like balder side sword, halberd, and claymore. It just depends on what move set you like, any weapon in the game is viable. Out of those 3 the BSS is probably best for 1 handed use. You'll probably want a shield with better stability than heater/knights
 
Shiva
sells Uchi's doesn't he? If you wanted one right now but keep the Undead Merchant alive, that's the way. Plus you get the best gesture in the game from his
Look skyward!



I bought the game from steam, do I have the DLC? I do not even know where the DLC would start. I am in the Depths
The DLC content is standard in the PC edition. You're not able to access it yet as where you are, a bit later on.
 

ParityBit

Member
Shiva
sells Uchi's doesn't he? If you wanted one right now but keep the Undead Merchant alive, that's the way. Plus you get the best gesture in the game from his
Look skyward!

I do not know where he is, or when I will be in that area! Seems like keeping the undead around is hit or miss in peoples books. Hrm ....
 

Sullichin

Member
Shiva
sells Uchi's doesn't he? If you wanted one right now but keep the Undead Merchant alive, that's the way. Plus you get the best gesture in the game from his
Look skyward!




The DLC content is standard in the PC edition. You're not able to access it yet as where you are, a bit later on.

He does.

A few days ago 2adept and I both made characters to rush Shiva/forest covenant and get the washing pole as soon as possible. I never knew until he told me that you can climb up the ladder in the darkroot basin without killing the hydra. So, unlocking shiva as a merchant can really be one of the first things you do in the game, and then you have a really nice selection of great weapons. When you know the game, there are so many ways to get strong weapons early on. Even if you're a new player it's worth trying out, if you don't mind suicide runs (I know you're not new to the game Red Liquorice, just saying in general :D)

For new players, here's a few ways to get really strong weapons early (2adept already mentioned some of these earlier in the thread):

Shiva's Wares
- Master Key
- Rush to darkroot basin via firelink shrine -> New londo Ruins -> Valley of Drakes -> Darkroot Basin, climb the ladder by the hydra, run to forest covenant, join. Talk to Shiva, he'll be the new guy in the forest wearing cool armor.
- Homeward bone, then do something easy like the undead burg and rack up 20K souls (only 5K if you just want the uchi)
- Head down to blighttown through the back door and down to the swamp, buy washing pole from Shiva. Maybe farm some large titanite so you're ready when you get the large ember later.
- Alternatively, as discussed in this thread you can just get the uchigatana if you kill the first merchant in the burg. In a beautiful display of balance, this guy is the only guy for QUITE some time that sells repair powder, and the uchigatana has very low durability. You'll want to have the bonfire repair box at least before killing him.

Black Knight Weapons
- This one might take some restarts to get the weapon you want as they are random drops from black knights. They are also pretty difficult to kill when you have a shitty weapon and you're new at the game!
- There's three black knight weapons in early areas: Black Knight Halberd, dropped by the knight in the Darkroot Basin, the Greatsword, dropped by the one on the tower in the Parish, and the regular Black Knight sword dropped by the one in the undead burg.
- Stock up on humanity early, as this increases your item discovery stat (max at 10 humanity + gold serpent's ring, but you won't have this ring yet - try to get 3-5 humanity in your counter). Then go after the BK(s) whose weapons you want. From the very start of the game you can try to get the Halberd. It will be a while before you have the stats to use it, but remember that you only need 22STR to 2 hand this bad boy.
- With the master key, firelink -> new londo entrance -> valley of drakes -> darkroot basin, and you'll run into this knight. Try to lure him off the edge. Don't worry if he falls, the drop is automatically given. If you're lucky you'll get the halberd.
- The one in the burg is the easiest of the 3 to kill. If you have a phantom with you it should be cake. Chance of sword drop. The one in the parish isn't too bad either.

Gravelord Sword
- This one doesn't require the master key.
- Rush to the graveyard from firelink - yup, that graveyard, and into the catacombs. There's a bonfire very early on. Run past the enemies and rest there. Push the switch in the bonfire room and kill that first necromancer.
- Run up to the first bridge, turn around and look below. Drop down onto a ledge far below. Heal immediately and roll away from the exploding skull thing. Head to the right.
- Scary ass titanite demon at the end of the hallway. You need to run past him and grab the eyes of death that are behind him. Then, in the same hallway approach a coffin that is open and sticking out. You'll have the option to lie in the coffin. Do so. The titanite demon will slowly approach you... but he won't get to you before a cutscene interrupts and you're taken into Nito's lair. Here's a random video I found on YT showing this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBKIiqUIezQ
- Join the gravelord covenant for the gravelord sword and miracle. Homeward bone, then run back up to firelink and start the game proper.
- Bonus: Kill the boss in the catacombs (very easy) for the rite of kindling, and enjoy being able to have up to 20 estus flasks at any bonfire.

Easier graveyard run - Zweihander, Winged Spar
- Run to the graveyard, you'll find two large skeletons. One is guarding the zwei and the other the winged spear. Grab them and don't mind if you die. You'll want to upgrade these like a normal weapon as they're not OP "out of the box", but they are good for early game stuff.

Claymore
- Again, not incredibly over powered but better than most unupgraded weapons. It's on the bridge with the dragon. Pick it up and burn to death or keep running and survive.

For mages - Tin Banishment Catalyst
- The tin banishment catalyst doubles nicely as a melee spear weapon that can take out most early enemies in one shot. You'll eventually replace it with a better weapon for sure, and it's not the best catalyst either, but it's very good early on in the game.
- Master key. Back entrance of blighttown via New Londo Ruins -> Valley of Drakes.
- Explore a bit on the upper level (no need to drop into the swamp), and you'll find a chest with the catalyst and the crimson set.
- On your way back in New Londo ruins, head down a broken staircase and find Rickert. Buy some more soul arrows and heavy soul arrows if you can afford them. Then you'll have plenty of casts.

I <3 The Reinforced Club
- A staple weapon in a SL1 playthrough, but just a very good weapon honestly! It does great damage when upgraded, and unupgraded it's a great weapon for the early game. Buy it from the undead merchant in the burg. 2 hand that, the R2 attack is excellent, you leap forward which helps because the weapon has bad range. It also inflicts bleed.

Drake Sword
Lol just kidding

Good early armor/ring: Wolf Ring + Elite Knight Set
- If you're having trouble with the capra demon especially, and you haven't tried the wolf ring, try it. It adds 40 poise which prevents you from getting stunned from enemy attacks so easily. As a bonus, the elite knight set has good defense and offers even more poise.
- Using the methods described above rush to darkroot basin and then up into darkroot forest. Here's a video showing where the wolf ring is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lOEJ5FgBo8
- As a bonus, going this way allows you very early access to Andre (blacksmith) and undead parish. So you can upgrade your weapon and unlock the shortcut back to firelink.

Some of these options might be more trouble than they're worth for a new player. But the point is, you have more options than you might expect right from the start of the game. I always see posts asking "what's a good build for a new player", and there's no one answer to that.
 

Raide

Member
Ghosts in new londo ruins fuck that. Where can i get more of the ghost curse?

Killing ghosts, looting some corpses and from some NPC's. You should find 2 just before the bridges into the main area and that should keep you going for a while and you will find more as you go.
 
Killing ghosts, looting some corpses and from some NPC's. You should find 2 just before the bridges into the main area and that should keep you going for a while and you will find more as you go.

I've used up all of them(died), so I can't kill more ghost and continue further.
 
aw yeah, much love for the reinforced club. there's nothing like smacking a fatty in the ass with it and then seeing him stand up and immediately die from bleed damage <3

I've used up all of them(died), so I can't kill more ghost and continue further.

female undead merchant sells them, but if you're feeling brave you can head to the depths and let one of the frog-things curse you to death. that's my favourite approach personally.
 
I've used up all of them(died), so I can't kill more ghost and continue further.
An alternative is to create the Cursed Greatsword of Artorias, which requires a +10 straight blade (any of them will do, just NOT the broken ones) and the Soul of Sif. Oh, and access to the Giant Blacksmith.

Bit of a pain in the ass if you're not up to Anor Londo already, but it's what I used.
 
I'm not even sure what just happened. I took the same route from the Undead Burg bonfire to the Undead Parrish bonfire that I've taken maybe 50 times before. Climb up to a rooftop to kill some snipers like always
and there was some kind of creature up there that shot 6 arrows at once.
Didnt get a good look at it before I died. Really disappointed that I didnt kill it because I'm guessing it would have dropped something good.
 

Sullichin

Member
I'm not even sure what just happened. I took the same route from the Undead Burg bonfire to the Undead Parrish bonfire that I've taken maybe 50 times before. Climb up to a rooftop to kill some snipers like always
and there was some kind of creature up there that shot 6 arrows at once.
Didnt get a good look at it before I died. Really disappointed that I didnt kill it because I'm guessing it would have dropped something good.

That's a vagrant
 
I'm not even sure what just happened. I took the same route from the Undead Burg bonfire to the Undead Parrish bonfire that I've taken maybe 50 times before. Climb up to a rooftop to kill some snipers like always
and there was some kind of creature up there that shot 6 arrows at once.
Didnt get a good look at it before I died. Really disappointed that I didnt kill it because I'm guessing it would have dropped something good.
Same thing happened to me in the Tomb of the Giants (fucking worst place for it to happen!).

Can be a real pain in the ass since they're so rare and likely to take you completely by surprise.
 
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