Ninja Scooter
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Freshmaker said:
if i love the Dynasty Warriors games will this bother me less?
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DARKSIDERS |OT| More like Zelda than God of War
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if i love the Dynasty Warriors games will this bother me less?
Dr. Kitty Muffins
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Any word on some DLC?
I would love for Vigil to with Darksiders what team Ninja did with Ninja Gaiden's DLC. I could see myself paying 1200 points for a DLC pack that includes a "lost level", new enemies, another Panzer Dragoon stage and some new weapons/outfits.
I would love for Vigil to with Darksiders what team Ninja did with Ninja Gaiden's DLC. I could see myself paying 1200 points for a DLC pack that includes a "lost level", new enemies, another Panzer Dragoon stage and some new weapons/outfits.
whatevermort
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ZealousD said:
Thanks. That's what I thought, and what I thought I was doing. Must have been aiming dreadfully or something. I'll try again tomorrow...
whatevermort said:
You might have accidentally messed up and then had one portal on each column. Remember you can use the left trigger to remove a portal, so if that happens, clear the portal on the first column and then shoot the portal on the wall again.
Wait, there's no way to go back just for that item?! I thought people said there were only 3 missable trophies on one playthrough!? God damn it. I thought I had everything there.ZealousD said:
edit: Damn you guys for scaring me. You can go back to get it by using the portal at Samael's location at the Scalding Gallow.
Hey developers,
way too destroy all the great texture work by having no filtering. I was growing annoyed over how shitty the textures looked, when I accidentally panned the camera straight down to the ground, and thus revealing how the textures actually look. Get to work on that!
way too destroy all the great texture work by having no filtering. I was growing annoyed over how shitty the textures looked, when I accidentally panned the camera straight down to the ground, and thus revealing how the textures actually look. Get to work on that!
Lostconfused
Member
That of course means getting it ported to PC, which solves all the problems of v sync, aliasing and AF.Truant said:
Ninja Face
Member
Anyone else strategically opening chests/hitting the finishing move button on dudes for that brief moment of immunity? :lol
TrAcEr_x90
Member
Truant said:
well i feel like that game has such a cool style and level design, that the graphical shortcomings dont even get noticed or bother me. Running down into a secret area or tuneel and finding it turns into something really cool like a giant mechanical fan room. There are alot of places that open up and look really cool.
Hobbun said:
Hey Hobbun, you can definitely lock and and queue up to five targets just like zelda, it's also required for some puzzles. You can do it in combat, but there are more effective ways that are less intrusive. It is a nice starter if your starting a fight with a small group that isn't aware of you. Queue up five targets, let your crossblade go and then move in for some melee.
Q8D3vil said:
Just make your way to them the same way you did the first time. The only place you can't reach on foot is the Twilight Cathedral.
And remember, blue lanterns signal a Vulgrim location. I somehow didn't figure that out until I'd already found all of them.
eXistor said:
Yeah, the second and third dungeons aren't really proper dungeons. The next two are far more... dungeoney. The last one is up there with the best Zelda dungeons, if you ask me.
TrAcEr_x90
Member
Ninja Face said:
do it all the time!!! i dont really get bored of it either.
I didn't post in here earlier cause I was avoiding spoilers, but now that I've finished the game I felt like posting here and saying what a great way to start 2010 this was. I had not even heard of this game until last weekend and on a whim I decided to buy it thanks to all the comparisons to games I really like such as Zelda, God of War and Soul Reaver. And while the game was obviously using those as inspiration, I felt it suitably brought it's own style and wasn't just mindless rehash.
I seriously hope this sells well enough for a sequel, and hopefully the 3 year drought of a game like this (has there been one since Twilight Princess?) leads people to buy this.
Based off the ending I'd really like to see
Overall impressions of the game
+Dungeons and exploration. I liked the dungeon designs. In fact the game didn't quite "click" for me until I started the Twilight Cathedral, and then I was hooked. I know some have said the overworld is a bit linear, but I felt it was designed well enough to advance the player along and hide some secrets without having the open world game design problem of too much space and not enough to do in it. That being said, I would have liked some larger areas to ride Ruin in though. The desert wasn't big enough once you acquired him. Basically on foot areas were spot on, horse areas were a bit smallish.
+Combat. What can be said? Fighting worked like a gem, mostly. Enough of a challenge to make the game fun and rewarding, but the mechanics were accessible and easy to grasp.
+Characters and world. I'm not a comic book guy, I don't even know what the concept and design artist of this game's portfolio consists of, but I thought the designs were all pretty cool. At first I was groaning at the prospect of another gravelly voiced white protagonist, but I thought the game handled the characters surprisingly well. The game definetly set up a premise I'd like to see revisited in a sequel.
-Ocassional glitchy response. Most times the controls felt pretty spot on, however there were a few instances where weird crap would occur. Sometimes it seemed to not register my jumps and I'd instead watch War fall into a pit. Other times the swinging seemed to hesitate, like I'd be aiming at it and it would take 4 or 5 seconds before the game realized "hey he's targeting a hook!" and activate the reticle and trigger prompt. There were even a couple times I'd target one of the circles with the Voidwalker, fire, and nothing would happen to the circle thing or like with the delayed response of the hook I'd have to wait for it to recognize I was shooting the circle...thing. Like I said, these were an exception, but noticeable when they did occur.
-Too much of the good stuff is late game. What I mean is that by the time you get the add-ons for your weapons or all the armor pieces the game is almost over. I know this happens in Zelda too, but when I finished I'd logged 23 hours and still had my scythe at level 3 and my fist at 1 because all the stuff to boost blue orbs came so late in the game I went ahead and finished because I didn't feel like grinding for orbs, even with the booster effects. Perhaps if some of the booster stuff was accessible earlier, or, even better if there was some optional side/post game dungeon (think like the stuff you see in JRPGs like Omega Ruins in FFX) or quest it would seem you got the full benefit of all the gear you acquired towards the end of the game.
So that's just a recap of my opinion after my first playthrough. It really is a good thing I picked this up. Kudos to the people at Vigil.
I seriously hope this sells well enough for a sequel, and hopefully the 3 year drought of a game like this (has there been one since Twilight Princess?) leads people to buy this.
Based off the ending I'd really like to see
a 3 way war occurring between the 4 Horsemen, Heaven (led by Uriel) and Hell (Samael takes his new throne?). I really think we only got proper fights against the demonic side in this one, suitably so for the plotline, but if they could have some massively batshit crazy epic fights in a sequel that could potentially be awesome.
Overall impressions of the game
+Dungeons and exploration. I liked the dungeon designs. In fact the game didn't quite "click" for me until I started the Twilight Cathedral, and then I was hooked. I know some have said the overworld is a bit linear, but I felt it was designed well enough to advance the player along and hide some secrets without having the open world game design problem of too much space and not enough to do in it. That being said, I would have liked some larger areas to ride Ruin in though. The desert wasn't big enough once you acquired him. Basically on foot areas were spot on, horse areas were a bit smallish.
+Combat. What can be said? Fighting worked like a gem, mostly. Enough of a challenge to make the game fun and rewarding, but the mechanics were accessible and easy to grasp.
+Characters and world. I'm not a comic book guy, I don't even know what the concept and design artist of this game's portfolio consists of, but I thought the designs were all pretty cool. At first I was groaning at the prospect of another gravelly voiced white protagonist, but I thought the game handled the characters surprisingly well. The game definetly set up a premise I'd like to see revisited in a sequel.
-Ocassional glitchy response. Most times the controls felt pretty spot on, however there were a few instances where weird crap would occur. Sometimes it seemed to not register my jumps and I'd instead watch War fall into a pit. Other times the swinging seemed to hesitate, like I'd be aiming at it and it would take 4 or 5 seconds before the game realized "hey he's targeting a hook!" and activate the reticle and trigger prompt. There were even a couple times I'd target one of the circles with the Voidwalker, fire, and nothing would happen to the circle thing or like with the delayed response of the hook I'd have to wait for it to recognize I was shooting the circle...thing. Like I said, these were an exception, but noticeable when they did occur.
-Too much of the good stuff is late game. What I mean is that by the time you get the add-ons for your weapons or all the armor pieces the game is almost over. I know this happens in Zelda too, but when I finished I'd logged 23 hours and still had my scythe at level 3 and my fist at 1 because all the stuff to boost blue orbs came so late in the game I went ahead and finished because I didn't feel like grinding for orbs, even with the booster effects. Perhaps if some of the booster stuff was accessible earlier, or, even better if there was some optional side/post game dungeon (think like the stuff you see in JRPGs like Omega Ruins in FFX) or quest it would seem you got the full benefit of all the gear you acquired towards the end of the game.
So that's just a recap of my opinion after my first playthrough. It really is a good thing I picked this up. Kudos to the people at Vigil.
You think Twilight Cathedral is the best dungeon? It seemed like it would be a good first dungeon basically, but the best? I thought it had a weird feeling to it-- the scale felt much larger than a typical Zelda dungeon, but I was never stumped or even confused about where I should be going. Black Throne is good though?Firestorm said:
Booser said:
Well, I'd say, the whole Hollows+Ashlands segment altogether was really poor form for a Zelda game. So it doesn't really compare favorably to a Zelda title, imo, because at this point I'm already at the
Black Throne
Spider Lair
I also already got through this beam puzzle you mention, and it's pretty neat how it works, but it wasn't very challenging. Still, it's a little better than what the game was before.
It's definitely got all the foundation but in a Darksiders 2, if they really want to be compared to Zelda favorably, they're going to have to make the design of the dungeons more clever. Ashlands wasn't even a dungeon.
Of course, it ISN'T Zelda... it's something else. And that something else is still pretty decent, but people should probably stop pawning this off as a Zelda title. It is not a good Zelda game.
~Devil Trigger~
In favor of setting Muslim women on fire
nvm
I mean it is definitely in the Zelda format, which is why it compares so unfavorably. When you go up against something of such a high quality, there are certain expectations.
This is a first effort for Vigil and so I'm not going to be overly harsh. It has a solid foundation and a Darksiders 2 could, perhaps, become as good as a mid-tier Zelda title. Darksiders 1, however, is not a good Zelda game.
It's still a decent game, just not one that can stand against Zelda. Again, all this is just our own projection, since Vigil never really said it wanted it to be God of War or Zelda or whatever. It clearly takes inspiration, but it is its OWN game. As its OWN game, it is a weird, uneven package, with lots of highs, lots of lows, lots of things Vigil can learn from for the future. A decent game for sure.
It's just no Zelda.
This is a first effort for Vigil and so I'm not going to be overly harsh. It has a solid foundation and a Darksiders 2 could, perhaps, become as good as a mid-tier Zelda title. Darksiders 1, however, is not a good Zelda game.
It's still a decent game, just not one that can stand against Zelda. Again, all this is just our own projection, since Vigil never really said it wanted it to be God of War or Zelda or whatever. It clearly takes inspiration, but it is its OWN game. As its OWN game, it is a weird, uneven package, with lots of highs, lots of lows, lots of things Vigil can learn from for the future. A decent game for sure.
It's just no Zelda.
FrenchMovieTheme
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are we talking zelda OOT or zelda twilight princess? because this game obliterates TP. of course OOT is the 3D adventure game of forever and im not sure any game can ever eclipse it.
HungryPillow
Banned
Just finished the Twilight Cathedral last night and really what an amazing game so far. Bits and pieces really reminded me of Zelda as I was playing through... Bought this with Bayonetta and I don't think I'll touch it again until I finish Darksiders 
Mejilan said:
The Tremor Gauntlet is honestly the best crowd control weapon in the game. You can use it to punch smaller enemies away so that you can focus on a single enemy and it's also good for punching enemies off ledges. There's one move in particular you can buy that's great. I can't remember what it's called, but it's RB+Hold Y then mash Y. War will repeatedly punch the ground and it'll stun every enemy in the vicinity.
brandonh83
Banned
The opening cinematic was very well done.
MMaRsu
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will52 said:
Strange, my experience was the complete opposite. There are a lot of things I like about Bayonetta, but its pacing and overabundance of pointless cutscenes sort of kill it for me.
Back on topic, however, the area leading up to the dungeon after the Cathedral looks amazing. I'm surprised by how colorful this game is.
Considering that this is Vigil's first game and people already mentioned it in the same sentence as Zelda is a huge compliment.
I hope this game sells well, I want to see sequels. Even if the sale number is not great, I hope Vigil continue this franchise. Or maybe Sony or Microsoft took notice of the great reviews and buy it for exclusivity I don't care on which console this franchise exists (well maybe not on Wii), as long as it continues.
I'm buying 2 more copies as gifts for my friends just to support Vigil.
so you hear that Vigil, I am gonna spend nearly 200 bucks on this game, I wanna see sequels!
I hope this game sells well, I want to see sequels. Even if the sale number is not great, I hope Vigil continue this franchise. Or maybe Sony or Microsoft took notice of the great reviews and buy it for exclusivity
I don't care on which console this franchise exists (well maybe not on Wii), as long as it continues. I'm buying 2 more copies as gifts for my friends just to support Vigil.
so you hear that Vigil, I am gonna spend nearly 200 bucks on this game, I wanna see sequels!
Narcosis said:
For the first part, check out Batman: Arkham Asylum if you haven't.
For the second part,
I think it pretty clearly set up for the Horsemen to fight back against the Charred Council. I don't think War's very happy with being used the way he was, and I don't think the other Horsemen are gonna be very happy when they find out that the Council basically let the apocalypse happen prematurely.
As for Heaven, they seem to be on a very tenuous alliance with War as of the end of this game. But, as Uriel said, she won't hesitate to fight him if the need may come. And she realizes that the Horsemen aren't taking sides in this battle.
And Hell, well, I think they're definitely gonna be pissed at War, what with him running around and screwing up the great hold they had on Earth. Samael was helping War out in this game, but it was entirely to his own ends - getting his power back and knocking the Destroyer out of the way so he could take over - so he's definitely not on friendly terms with War. There's no way his line, "It would take all four Horsemen to take me down!" (or however it exactly went) wasn't foreshadowing to an epic boss battle in the potential sequel.
On top of all this, we have a few wild cards. Where are the Creator and the Devil in all this? Are they just kinda watching to see how it all plays out? Did they just leave and don't really give a shit? And who was the voice that convinced Abaddon to fall?
So, hopefully they get to do a sequel. They clearly have ideas beyond just this game.
As for Heaven, they seem to be on a very tenuous alliance with War as of the end of this game. But, as Uriel said, she won't hesitate to fight him if the need may come. And she realizes that the Horsemen aren't taking sides in this battle.
And Hell, well, I think they're definitely gonna be pissed at War, what with him running around and screwing up the great hold they had on Earth. Samael was helping War out in this game, but it was entirely to his own ends - getting his power back and knocking the Destroyer out of the way so he could take over - so he's definitely not on friendly terms with War. There's no way his line, "It would take all four Horsemen to take me down!" (or however it exactly went) wasn't foreshadowing to an epic boss battle in the potential sequel.
On top of all this, we have a few wild cards. Where are the Creator and the Devil in all this? Are they just kinda watching to see how it all plays out? Did they just leave and don't really give a shit? And who was the voice that convinced Abaddon to fall?
So, hopefully they get to do a sequel. They clearly have ideas beyond just this game.
canova said:Or maybe Sony or Microsoft took notice of the great reviews and buy it for exclusivity
Is Vigil owned by THQ? If not, Sony or Microsoft would be smart to buy them up and pump some money into them to create an exclusive Zelda-killer series. What they've done as an unknown with a small budget (I imagine) is amazing.