David Goyer hired to write 'THE MAN OF STEEL'. Not a reboot. No Routh.

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Terry O'Quinn as Lex Luthor is too damn perfect now. I'd be disappointed if that doesn't come to pass :/.
 
Wow consider me interested! Im so done with origin stories, bring this on! I agree O'Quinn as luthor would be the greatest thing ever. Between this and the pirates casting news, I'm ready for a good time.
 
Ah man I really thought Routh was perfect.

Purely speculative Goyer isn't writing it yet.

Hey folks, Harry here... So just a while ago I just got off the phone with Thomas Tull at Legendary Pictures who told me that the story that appeared over on LATINO REVIEW just frankly isn't true. Tull has not unilaterally hired Goyer to come in and write the new SUPERMAN. He loves Goyer, but frankly - the project isn't at the Script stage yet. Seems Nolan is still hatching some ideas. But he just wanted me to pass on that they have the highest enthusiasm for this project, but the story on Latino just isn't accurate. I'll see what more I can find out, but as of right now, there really isn't anything else to tell.
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Its hard enough to get excited about Superman but even worse is just how overused Brainiac is with DC toons and the Smallville show.
 
Hey folks, Harry here... So just a while ago I just got off the phone with Thomas Tull at Legendary Pictures who told me that the story that appeared over on LATINO REVIEW just frankly isn't true. Tull has not unilaterally hired Goyer to come in and write the new SUPERMAN. He loves Goyer, but frankly - the project isn't at the Script stage yet. Seems Nolan is still hatching some ideas. But he just wanted me to pass on that they have the highest enthusiasm for this project, but the story on Latino just isn't accurate. I'll see what more I can find out, but as of right now, there really isn't anything else to tell.
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It's not all bad news. At least WB is trying to get the project up and going.
 
madara said:
Its hard enough to get excited about Superman but even worse is just how overused Brainiac is with DC toons and the Smallville show.
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Eh Brainiac isn't overused on Smallville. And Smallville is a completely separate world and with such a small fan base anyway.
 
Eaten By A Grue said:
Damn you Latino Review, you are no longer my #1 trusted news source
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People need to learn to read the thread before replying. This news has already been confirmed in Variety, and the WB is threatening to blacklist LR for leaking this info. It`s absolutely real.
 
Keep Routh. He looked like Superman more than anyone else probably can seeing as how he was chosen for the Christopher Reeve resemblance - how Superman should look in a movie. It's been 4 years later and Routh should look a little more mature for the Superman role. I agree there was a little disconnect in Superman Returns - but I blame that more on the story, lack of action, and misdirection of that movie.

Everything else sounds exciting. Bring on a real comic book Superman story with new villains yet to be shown. Braniac makes the most sense since it would involve a Krypton story line. Would like to see other villains from comics down the line....culminating in an epic confrontation with Darkseid (would be awesome).
 
Do Want. A pedal to the wall, balls to the metal kind of Superman movie that doesn't try to re-explain shit and just goes deep into mythology.

Hell yeah.
 
AHAHAHA fuck you Mark Millar. Anyways I guess this is a good thing for the planning stages, but as for an ACTUAL screenplay this is horrible news. Goyer can't write for shit. He's only good at planning stuff like this out apparently. I hate to go the safe route here but they should also throw in that Nolan brother.
 
David Goyer is good as long as he has someone else collaborating with him. Like with TDK and BB he has the Nolans with him.

Writing it on own could be risky.
 
I'm not convinced that Goyer's established style will work well with for a Superman movie. More to the point, I personally think that Superman is in desperate need of a reboot if they want to build a successful film franchise. I don't think the Dark Knight would have been as successful as it was if it didn't have Batman Begin to build off. Everyone already knew who Batman was before Batman Begins was released, but I was extremely fascinated to see his origins. There are so many different versions of Superman this point in various mediums, and there are a lot of nuances to the character. I think it's important for movie-goers to see these characters develop from their beginning, and I think people genuinely like origin stories. I loved Richard Donner's Superman and have probably watched it 50 times in my lifetime, but it's horribly outdated in many regards. It's been 32 years, for crying out loud! It's time for a reboot!
 
AlternativeUlster said:
That sounds tits awesome actually.
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Thanks. Too bad I have no influence over the decision.

The one guy I know who might have a shot is no longer interested in playing with other people's characters.
 
Jibril said:
I want an OLD Lex. And old angry Luthor with nothing to live for. With the world as his stage to enact his final performance of life.

Terry O'Quinn can deliver:
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THIS.
 
The problem with Terry O'Quinn I think will be his voice. It just wouldn't sound like Lex to me. He looks great, he's a great actor, but I just can't imagine his voice fitting the role.
 
Holtz said:
People need to learn to read the thread before replying. This news has already been confirmed in Variety, and the WB is threatening to blacklist LR for leaking this info. It`s absolutely real.
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Therefore Latino Review has redeemed itself as my #1 news source. How dare you doubt them.
 
Eaten By A Grue said:
Therefore Latino Review has redeemed itself as my #1 news source. How dare you doubt them.
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Hooray! I feel bad for AICN - they got rolled by PR.

Back to the important news:


Routh:

Is bad at the skill of acting
Is lacking charisma
Is too young
Is too thin
Is part of the awfulness of Returns
Is creepy
Is obviously fetishized by the director
Is beloved by gaf weirdoes

Is gone.
 
OuterWorldVoice said:
Hooray! I feel bad for AICN - they got rolled by PR.

Back to the important news:


Routh:

Is bad at the skill of acting
Is lacking charisma
Is too young
Is too thin
Is part of the awfulness of Returns
Is creepy
Is obviously fetishized by the director
Is beloved by gaf weirdoes

Is gone.
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Too thin? Reeves wasn't any bigger. Superman doesn't actually lift planes because he has big muscles. Hes a comicbook character!
 
Teh Hamburglar said:
Too thin? Reeves wasn't any bigger. Superman doesn't actually lift planes because he has big muscles. Hes a comicbook character!
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All of the representations of him in comic books are of a broad shouldered, incredibly muscular man. Reeves was too thin too. I think in a way he'd be a more interesting character as a bit of a meathead.

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Reeves in a way, played Clark Kent, with a hint of Superman. He had a unique take, in a campy version. He should be gifted that as part of his legacy. The new movies should do something different.
 
Jibril said:
I want an OLD Lex. And old angry Luthor with nothing to live for. With the world as his stage to enact his final performance of life.

Terry O'Quinn can deliver:
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DON'T TELL ME WHAT I CAN'T DO, SUPERMAN!!!
 
A big problem I had with the casting of Returns is that Marsden was just better looking, more chiseled, and more mature than Routh - so much so that it's hard to buy Lois swooning over him every time he flies by.

Coolio McAwesome said:
I'm not convinced that Goyer's established style will work well with for a Superman movie. More to the point, I personally think that Superman is in desperate need of a reboot if they want to build a successful film franchise. I don't think the Dark Knight would have been as successful as it was if it didn't have Batman Begin to build off. Everyone already knew who Batman was before Batman Begins was released, but I was extremely fascinated to see his origins. There are so many different versions of Superman this point in various mediums, and there are a lot of nuances to the character. I think it's important for movie-goers to see these characters develop from their beginning, and I think people genuinely like origin stories. I loved Richard Donner's Superman and have probably watched it 50 times in my lifetime, but it's horribly outdated in many regards. It's been 32 years, for crying out loud! It's time for a reboot!
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No one cares about Superman's origin story. No one wants another (exlusively) Lex Luthor movie. The franchise needs to move on if it's going to grow. Silly that in a franchise about an Alien, the only other aliens we've seen are from his planet.
 
The opening credits of Singer's version were such a goddamn cock tease.

Thanks for showing us the universe and then spending the rest of the movie on Earth with human villains.

Asshole.
 
Count Dookkake said:
The opening credits of Singer's version were such a goddamn cock tease.

Thanks for showing us the universe and then spending the rest of the movie on Earth with human villains.

Asshole.
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Yes, everybody knows Lex Luthor is secretly a Kandorian with no superpowers.
 
Marty Chinn said:
The problem with Terry O'Quinn I think will be his voice. It just wouldn't sound like Lex to me. He looks great, he's a great actor, but I just can't imagine his voice fitting the role.
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No, it's a brilliant casting choice. Think about scenes in Lost where Locke explains to Jack why he had to kill somebody or blow something up. Locke is always calm while Jack is going into a self-righteous rage. Now imagine Locke is Lex and Jack is Superman. It would be awesome.
 
Medalion said:
Yes, everybody knows Lex Luthor is secretly a Kandorian with no superpowers.
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I have no idea what this means. Reference to the Abrams script?

Anyway, I agree with Sho Nuff that it is dumb for a movie about Superman to remain on Earth to fight villainous humans, given the state of FX these days.

Singer's credits were just cruel.



And all that bullshit about Kryptonian technology... I'm hoping to see giant, crystal mechs or some shit, but all we got was a fucking island.
 
Darkseid, Doomsday or Brainiac will do just fine, this movie is already sounding better than SR. No Luthor as the main villain.
 
OuterWorldVoice said:
All of the representations of him in comic books are of a broad shouldered, incredibly muscular man. Reeves was too thin too. I think in a way he'd be a more interesting character as a bit of a meathead.

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Reeves in a way, played Clark Kent, with a hint of Superman. He had a unique take, in a campy version. He should be gifted that as part of his legacy. The new movies should do something different.
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Well its a good thing these comic book movies are ADAPTATIONS and not direct translations. Otherwise all the women would have to be super models with D cups and the menw ould have to be WWE wrestlers. Superman is large because its a artistic choice. Hes large, imposing which depicts strength. But good luck finding a man that looks like that, has the ability to carry a movie by himself and have marketability.

OMG. How many innocent people were killed during that one fight.
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No one. It was a new housing development created by Lex. It didn't have tenants yet.
 
Byrne's version were a great start and match up nicely for a movie trilogy with some tweaks.

Part 1
Billionaire Lex is embarrased by Superman and vows revenge.
Superman fights and loses to the man with the Kryptonite heart but is rescued by Luthor who wants to be the one who destroys him.
Makes a ring of Kryptonite so Supes cannot get to him and sets the stage for a lifelong rivalry.

Part 3
Something involving magic since that is Superman's weakness outside of Kryptonite. Otherwise Braniac or Darkseid although I'm not big on aliens.


Part 2
Bizarro who is a clone of Superman rather than an alien but is not holding together too well - almost like Frankenstein. Plus the subplot of finding out who is Superman plus Lex getting radiation poisoning from the Kryponite.

I also liked Byrne's version of Kent because he pursued Lois from the get go as Kent rather than Superman.
 
Teh Hamburglar said:
Well its a good thing these comic book movies are ADAPTATIONS and not direct translations. Otherwise all the women would have to be super models with D cups and the menw ould have to be WWE wrestlers. Superman is large because its a artistic choice. Hes large, imposing which depicts strength. But good luck finding a man that looks like that, has the ability to carry a movie by himself and have marketability.
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That's a weird bug happening with tinypic. My original is showing and your quoted version is borked.

REGARDLESS - I just think trying to ape Reeves version is redundant. Doesn't have to be Hulk, just shouldn't be a low-rent Reeves clone.

Bolded your excellent idea.
 
OuterWorldVoice said:
That's a weird bug happening with tinypic. My original is showing and your quoted version is borked.

REGARDLESS - I just think trying to ape Reeves version is redundant. Doesn't have to be Hulk, just shouldn't be a low-rent Reeves clone.

Bolded your excellent idea.
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I agree with Grant Morrison on this one. Superman is not like Batman or any of the other human superheroes. Guy is powered by the sun he does no training at all really so he shouldn't be muscler and completely ripped. He might just be a big guy like a tradesmen or something. Someone who may do some heavy lifting as part of their job but nothing more. Superman is not Batman, he is not trying to instill terror. He is trying to instill trust. Thats why he doesn't wear a mask, they make a point of this in Geoff John's Secret Origin story I believe and it makes complete sense. Here is a being who can rip cars apart with his hands and can see through walls. Thats somewhat terrifying.

I would be disappointed if Routh does not come back, I thought he did a great job with what he had. Still he had a multi movie contract so if they go ahead without him he still gets paid right?

Here is a quote from a All Star Superman interview with Morrison:
"My entire approach to Superman had come from the way that guy had been sitting; so easy, so confident, as if, invulnerable to all physical harm, he could relax completely and be spontaneous and warm. That pose, sitting hunched on the bollard, with one knee up, the cape just hanging there, talking to us seemed to me to be the opposite of the clenched, muscle-bound look the character sometimes sports and that was the key to Superman for me."
 
http://movies.ign.com/articles/107/1071879p1.html

EXCLUSIVE UPDATE: IGN has heard from reliable sources that Tull is downplaying this report. Goyer is in fact on the project, but not only that -- his The Dark Knight co-writer Jonah Nolan will also be scripting Superman: The Man of Steel along with him. Nolan's brother Christopher is expected to only executive-produce, and not direct, the film. That said, he will be "hands-on" as a producer. Since the Superman film is under the gun because of the ongoing legal entanglements involving the property, Warner Bros. wants the pair to get started on their script on the double.

Our sources add that Warners is confident in the early work that Goyer and Jonah Nolan have done so far on Batman 3, and that as a result Superman has now taken on a higher priority status at the studio than it had since Superman Returns was released.
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I believe that the physical appearance of Superman relies heavily on proportions. Brandon Routh was a big guy, probably more cut than Reeves too. But Routh looked a bit stretched, a bit goofy, a bit lanky. Reeves had it down - he wasn't huge, but he had the right type of shoulders and his neck wasn't too long. As an aspiring comic artist, I've always found Reeves' body in the costume to look like it's out of a comic book without looking absurd.

Compare these two pictures:
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Routh also looks too young, too much like a pretty boy. Superman is supposed to have strong features which he balances through charm and a certain amount of light heartedness. He doesn't have to be suave (that's Bruce Wayne) but he needs to come off as being genuine with his facial expressions: a few intelligent grins, not empty smiles. Routh's Superman looks like he lacks confidence, he looks unsure of himself and he looks more comfortable as Clark Kent than he does as Superman.

Edit: Christ, the Returns costume is an eye sore. Is that a 'S' on his belt? Also, stupid muted costume colors are stupid.
 
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