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DC Cinematic Universe |OT| Superfriends with Benefits

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Ashhong

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Is this San Francisco?
 
I'm surprised the clip even exists. I recorded the episode, but NBC broke in right at the start of the show with Obama's nomination to the Supreme Court. By the time the press conference was done, the Affleck section was over.
 

DeathoftheEndless

Crashing this plane... with no survivors!
I read one of the impressions saying in this movie Snyder showed a lot of restraint, in terms of his normal directorial efforts. Last time he showed restraint we got DotD remake (a great remake btw).

Well, 300 is my favorite of his movies and that was full-blown Snyder lol.

I feel like the reviews will be like Man of Steel's, saying its loud and joyless. Then again, I predicted Deadpool to have a 38% tomatometer, so what do I know?
 
I'm curious to see how this film feels without the Nolan influence this time. I love Nolan's films, but felt like his influence on Man of Steel hurt it rather than hindered it. The clear lifting of Batman Begins' structure did that film no favor.
 
I'm curious to see how this film feels without the Nolan influence this time. I love Nolan's films, but felt like his influence on Man of Steel hurt it rather than hindered it. The clear lifting of Batman Begins' structure did that film no favor.

But how much of that was Nolan and how much of that was Goyer hoping to strike gold twice?
 

Verendus

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I think Zack Snyder said "About 30 minutes" at the China press event.

3 hours, christ.
Yeeeeeessssss.

The last time I watched a movie more than once was back in 2008 when I bought The Dark Knight on blu-ray. 8 years later, and I'm going to do it again for the Buttman vs. Supersauce.

Truly a once in a decade kind of moment. Glad I got an extra thirty minutes to look forward to.

Let's talk scene additions. Here's what we need.

More Bruce and Alfred.
More Bruce and Clark.
More Bruce and Diana so I can see the Buttman give her more shit.

Alternatively, I will take thirty minutes of an entire subplot that is dedicated to The Rock so we can finally see him in this goddamn universe. End it by hinting at a crossover with X-Men.
 
Yeeeeeessssss.

The last time I watched a movie more than once was back in 2008 when I bought The Dark Knight on blu-ray. 8 years later, and I'm going to do it again for the Buttman vs. Supersauce.

Damn. I rewatch favorite films all the time. Heck, I've seen MoS three times and I think that movie is just "pretty good."
 

VanWinkle

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Kind of off-topic, but what were the problems with the Green Lantern movie? What made it so bad? When I first watched it, I was embarrassingly uncritical about movies, so I can't think of what was bad about it. The only thing I remember not liking was the CG mask.

I bought the extended cut Blu-ray when it came out and haven't watched it since it released, so I'm kind of wanting to now, just because.
 

Penguin

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Kind of off-topic, but what were the problems with the Green Lantern movie? What made it so bad? When I first watched it, I was embarrassingly uncritical about movies, so I can't think of what was bad about it. The only thing I remember not liking was the CG mask.

I bought the extended cut Blu-ray when it came out and haven't watched it since it released, so I'm kind of wanting to now, just because.

I think the uninteresting plot, the questionable CG, it's more just bland than bad or anything.

Like it's unremarkable
 

Ahasverus

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I think Jesse is pretty good looking too, it's just that his clothes and hair choices are not trying to reflect a "hot" man, still he has a very symmetrical face and could look as good as those guys. Who cares now though, his girlfriend is gorgeus and they seem happy together.

Henry is the hottest man on the planet right now though.
 

Verendus

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Damn. I rewatch favorite films all the time. Heck, I've seen MoS three times and I think that movie is just "pretty good."
I never have the time. I'd rewatch more stuff if I did, but choosing to rewatch something means missing out on something new. Therefore I always pick watching something new. Too many movies that I'd miss out on otherwise.

I'm only going to rewatch BvS due to the extra footage. I likely wouldn't bother otherwise. It's rare for me to appreciate a movie more on a rewatch anyway. When I like something, I tend to absorb it, and it stays with me for a long time. (Long time meaning the big moments remain, but inevitably fade, while the small moments were forgotten weeks after the viewing.)

I'll probably rewatch the entire TDK trilogy in a few years, if the time is right or whatever.

Edit:

I've probably seen MoS 30-35 times since it came out.
If anyone ever needs to check something about this movie, they know who to ask now. Strafer probably has it memorized at this stage.

You will never forget. Never. Ever.
 

BadAss2961

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I think the uninteresting plot, the questionable CG, it's more just bland than bad or anything.

Like it's unremarkable
That's a good assessment.

I've said it before, it's the spitting image of a standard Marvel movie. Just that it's a standalone without the aid of an entire universe to carry it.
 
To provide proper context, she tweeted this right after:
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YIKES.

EDIT: And regarding her earlier comment: if she's not a primary critic and not reviewing the movie, then it doesn't really matter if she's biased or not.

She can be as biased as she wants. It's got about as much weight as one of my posts.
 

Ahasverus

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That's a good assessment.

I've said it before, it's the spitting image of a standard Marvel movie. Just that it's a standalone without the aid of an entire universe to carry it.
Eh, I think its characters were insufferable, some Marvel movies have the blandest of storylines but it's easy to care for them, they make him very human and I think that's their biggest strength.
 

Ophelion

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Kind of off-topic, but what were the problems with the Green Lantern movie? What made it so bad? When I first watched it, I was embarrassingly uncritical about movies, so I can't think of what was bad about it. The only thing I remember not liking was the CG mask.

I bought the extended cut Blu-ray when it came out and haven't watched it since it released, so I'm kind of wanting to now, just because.

In my opinion, a large part of their problem is they tried to run before they could walk as far as the plotting goes.

Under no circumstances should Hal be fighting fucking Parallax by the end of his first film. That's absurd. There was a Hector Hammond plot, a Sinestro plot and a Parallax plot. All of them undercooked. On top of that, they had to introduce the Corps, info dump all the weird lore tied to Oa and all that AND work in a love intrest sub-plot because how could you not do that?

Even if they had a decent script writer, that is too much shit to do in one movie. Pacing was, to say the least, a problem.

Should've followed the arc in First Flight where the "villain" is just some space criminal and the movie is basically Training Day in space where Hal slowly comes to realize that Sinestro is a piece of shit and the real problem. Leaves a lot more breathing room for exploring the GL universe without having to be so obsessed on advancing the plot. GL is a lot to take in. First outing with him shouldn't be too bloated. Give the audience a little time to figure all this stuff out before you start pitting him against elemental fear gods and shit.

Also, the CGI suit was pretty ugly, but that's neither here nor there.
 
Watched MoS again this afternoon when i finished uni work early ('ll probably regret it) and got bored. Has its problems but all cbm's do. But daaaamn Diane Lane (?) feels perfect as Ma Kent. Feels like such a genuine protective mother to Clark. Pa Kent has good moments "You are my son" gets me every time...but we all know how that ends up.

I feel Zod is the most interesting character though, his motives as almost empathetic until he starts to kill everyone.
 

Verendus

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Fleas bass could be confused for 70s porn music to be fair
Superman is sexually frustrated after all.

Wait. I can actually build a whole story around this.

Superman notices Batman, and he begins to question his loyalty to Lois Lane. Batman dislikes Superman, especially due to his image in the media. Classic love and hate relationship you see in those romcom movies. Superman decides to take matters into his own hands and comes on strongly to Batman, even damaging his property in the process. Batman takes issue with Superman's aggressive advance. He prepares to put him in his place in a classic duel.

Luthor, Superman's daddy in this story, doesn't like the fact that Superman is falling in love with Batman. He uses leverage and forces Superman to fight his growing love for another man. Superman is surprised to see Batman ready to engage him, so decides to bring the fight to an end by displaying his superiority before someone really gets hurt. However Batman refuses to accept Superman's love and turns the tables. He beats up Superman, and soon Superman realizes things will end up going too far. This makes me question his own desire to beat Batman.

As Superman battles between his growing love for Batman or his existing love for Lois, Lois valiantly races to the battlefield to bring a stop to everything, but she ends up dying in the middle of the fight. Suddenly, Batman realizes that Superman had another woman. He decides to stop fighting. Superman realizes he never loved Batman, and it was just the hormones confusing him. He truly loved Lois Lane.

The End.
 

Blader

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I'm curious to see how this film feels without the Nolan influence this time. I love Nolan's films, but felt like his influence on Man of Steel hurt it rather than hindered it. The clear lifting of Batman Begins' structure did that film no favor.

The only influence Nolan had on Man of Steel was hiring Snyder and getting Goyer in a room with WB.
 

Verendus

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Uh oh.

A Superman who's conflicted with what's happening in the world thanks to his appearance. A Superman who's questioning whether it's right for him to be there. A Superman who's receiving advice from a concerned mother who sees the toll its taking on her child. A Superman who doesn't have it all together like the perfect leader he's supposed to be. Even if his character develops by the end of the movie, this is clearly gross!

Also, this scene has to be a favourite of mine in hindsight. Really good stuff. I feel for you Superboy. :(
 

IconGrist

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I would put you all to shame with how many times I have watched Man of Steel from beginning to end. Or would the shame go to me? Either way I have seen it well over a hundred times.
 
Kind of off-topic, but what were the problems with the Green Lantern movie? What made it so bad? When I first watched it, I was embarrassingly uncritical about movies, so I can't think of what was bad about it. The only thing I remember not liking was the CG mask.

I bought the extended cut Blu-ray when it came out and haven't watched it since it released, so I'm kind of wanting to now, just because.
The CGI as you noted is pretty iffy, it becomes painfully obvious on the Oa scenes that Ryan Reynolds is just acting in front of a green-screen. I think the movie is just kind of boring, it tries to balance the corps and Hal's personal life at the same time but doesn't work necessarily. It was DC's answer in a way to Iron Man so a lot was riding on it too.

Comic fans didn't like Hal being a lot more comedic in the movie then he ever is in the comics (plus in the first part of the movie pre-ring he is sort of a dick) and non-comics fans were confused at Hal being Green Lantern as a lot grew up with John Stewart in the DCAU as GL.
 

guek

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Watched MoS again this afternoon when i finished uni work early ('ll probably regret it) and got bored. Has its problems but all cbm's do. But daaaamn Diane Lane (?) feels perfect as Ma Kent. Feels like such a genuine protective mother to Clark. Pa Kent has good moments "You are my son" gets me every time...but we all know how that ends up.

I feel Zod is the most interesting character though, his motives as almost empathetic until he starts to kill everyone.

I liked Shannon's Zod but I wish they had given him more to work with beyond varrying degrees of anger. The way his conversation goes with Clark in the dream sequence makes it painfully obvious he never expected Clark to see things his way. He could have been written to actually regret killing Jor-El and maybe even as a possible rival father figure. I feel like he could have been a sympathetic character but definitely wasn't.

I should probably rewatch MoS this weekend...blah. Maybe while I'm cleaning or doing paperwork.
 

BadAss2961

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The only influence Nolan had on Man of Steel was hiring Snyder and getting Goyer in a room with WB.
Through Nolan's involvement or not, there was definitely a Batman Begins influence to a lot of the movie though. It was written that way, but Snyder also strayed a bit from himself to go along with that idea. Almost as if they wanted to leave open the possibility of it actually tying to the Nolanverse.

Batman v Superman looks full Snyder.
 
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