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[johnnydrama]

I'm really surprised people didn't seem to like the Knightmare sequence, especially as it was probably one of the most anticipated scenes heading into the premiere.

I loved it. A lot of people seem to hate it because it is very confusing unless you're a DC comics fan. Also it feels a bit shoehorned in. But man, I can't get enough of it.

Yesterday I was talking to a friend who seemed to hate it cause it all went over his head. Then I explained it to him and he thought it was really cool.

 

[Boke1879]

I'm really surprised people didn't seem to like the Knightmare sequence, especially as it was probably one of the most anticipated scenes heading into the premiere.

Visually it looks fucking amazing and I hope in the future we get to see more of that. But I would have rather seen something like that place

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after the credits.

 

[DecoReturns]

I'm really surprised people didn't seem to like the Knightmare sequence, especially as it was probably one of the most anticipated scenes heading into the premiere.

When you see it, you'll know why its more disliked then liked.
Actually i thing the scene it's good, just I didn't like it for different reasons. I don't want to spoil it.

 

[Bleepey]

I wonder how deceptive that latest trailer was. The first one made Suicide Squad look like a very dark and grim movie which is exactly what David Ayer usually does. I would imagine that it was closer to what the movie is going to be than the Bohemian Raphsody trailer.

Will Smith said the film was very comedic.

 

[jackdoe]

The Knightmare scene is good, it just belongs in a different movie.

 

[DecoReturns]

Visually it looks fucking amazing and I hope in the future we get to see more of that. But I would have rather seen something like that place

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after the credits.

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i would've liked it in the beginning, or near it even tho I did love the opening of the movie.

 

[Verendus]

Making less than MoS WW would be catastrophic.

It would also be impossible.

Even with poor legs, the movie will pass $900m worldwide. Less than that would be one of the biggest box office disasters in terms of legs.

 

[rokero]

I liked the knightmare scene jut not the way it was handled/placed in the film, it should have been shorter and placed towards the end, Snyder should have left a lot of things for the extended cut, this was one of them

 

[Kenzodielocke]

The Knightmare scene is good, it just belongs in a different movie.

I agree. It felt out of place.

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The destruction was enough for Bruce to take on Supes.

 

[Corpsepyre]

I think WB should be happy with a $350 US BO, given the negative reviews.

 

[Boke1879]

I agree. It felt out of place.

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The destruction was enough for Bruce to take on Supes.

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I don't think that was the intent of the scene. It was more so building up Justice League/giving us a taste of what could be coming in this universe.

 

[IconGrist]

My only issue with the Knightmare sequence was how it was cut to.

It would have been way better if

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they lingered on Bruce falling asleep before cutting to it. As it is it just comes out of nowhere.

 

[Pachimari]

Alright good, very interesting. I'm super curious about that Knightmare scene now as well. I'm gonna read the theory article after I have seen the movie, so I'll maybe be able to understand it, because I'm no DC Comics fan, and haven't followed the series. But I love me some DC films and shows.

But I will know for certain when I am in the Knightmare scene right? It's not like I have to look out for it, or that I'll be confused if it's present day or a Knightmare scene? I imagine there's some kind of filter on top of the Knightmare sequence.

 

[Corpsepyre]

Alright good, very interesting. I'm super curious about that Knightmare scene now as well. I'm gonna read the theory article after I have seen the movie, so I'll maybe be able to understand it, because I'm no DC Comics fan, and haven't followed the series. But I love me some DC films and shows.

Do that. Posted it above. It's excellent.

And No, you will know when it hits. Best to read after watching.

 

[Firemind]

I just don't understand how

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Flash's warning

came into being.

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IIRC Bruce falls asleep behind his computer and then dreams about Flash for some reason? Shouldn't Flash be physically appearing before his eyes?

 

[IconGrist]

I just don't understand how

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Flash's warning

came into being.

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IIRC Bruce falls asleep behind his computer and then dreams about Flash for some reason? Shouldn't Flash be physically appearing before his eyes?

I fear this is one of those things you just kind have to roll with. Flash's powers are so goddamn weird sometimes and we don't know to what extent they work in the DCEU.

 

[Poodlestrike]

My only issue with the Knightmare sequence was how it was cut to.

It would have been way better if

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they lingered on Bruce falling asleep before cutting to it. As it is it just comes out of nowhere.

Another example of the film's connective tissue deficit, imo. All of 10 seconds are needed to

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have him fall asleep, then some weird effects

and it feels much less abrupt.

 

[Blade30]

Alright good, very interesting. I'm super curious about that Knightmare scene now as well. I'm gonna read the theory article after I have seen the movie, so I'll maybe be able to understand it, because I'm no DC Comics fan, and haven't followed the series. But I love me some DC films and shows.

But I will know for certain when I am in the Knightmare scene right? It's not like I have to look out for it, or that I'll be confused if it's present day or a Knightmare scene? I imagine there's some kind of filter on top of the Knightmare sequence.

Trust you'll know, it's basically a "huh... wtf just happened?" situtation.

 

[Pachimari]

I fear this is one of those things you just kind have to roll with. Flash's powers are so goddamn weird sometimes and we don't know to what extent they work in the DCEU.

Fuck. Now I expect The Flash to be part of the Knightmare scene. It's probably some kind of "looking-into-the-future" or a glimpse of the Justice League, because the Darkseid sign was there in the trailer.

Oh well, that's what I expect now. I should go sleep, and stop reading this thread.

 

[jackdoe]

Another example of the film's connective tissue deficit, imo. All of 10 seconds are needed to

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have him fall asleep, then some weird effects

and it feels much less abrupt.

The cut to it wasn't the problem. The scene itself just wasn't effective and contributed nothing to the actual story of the movie. A much better replacement would have been

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a repeat of the Martha grave nightmare.

 

[IconGrist]

Another example of the film's connective tissue deficit, imo. All of 10 seconds are needed to

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have him fall asleep, then some weird effects

and it feels much less abrupt.

It's one of those things I believe will be in the 3 hour cut. There's so many mini snips all over the place. Like Snyder just cut everything he felt he could get away with to make that runtime.

 

[Corpsepyre]

The cut to it wasn't the problem. The scene itself just wasn't effective and contributed nothing to the actual story of the movie. A much better replacement would have been

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a repeat of the Martha grave nightmare.

It was setting up the future films, I believe. Foreshadowing Darkseid.

 

[Poodlestrike]

The cut to it wasn't the problem. The scene itself just wasn't effective and contributed nothing to the actual story of the movie. A much better replacement would have been

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a repeat of the Martha grave nightmare.

I mean...

Look, I'm not gonna say that the various JL (and onward) teases weren't effectively shoehorned in, but they don't need to be as much of a problem as they currently are.

 

[ryan299]

I think WB should be happy with a $350 US BO, given the negative reviews.

They should but they won't be.

 

[Boke1879]

I fear this is one of those things you just kind have to roll with. Flash's powers are so goddamn weird sometimes and we don't know to what extent they work in the DCEU.

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I read that theory and it suggests that it's Bruce's memory from that possible future collapsing into this current timeline. Which gives Bruce the impression it's a dream. Don't know if I'll go with that yet. As you said. Flash's speedforce/time travel powers can get weird.

 

[johnnydrama]

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I read that theory and it suggests that it's Bruce's memory from that possible future collapsing into this current timeline. Which gives Bruce the impression it's a dream. Don't know if I'll go with that yet. As you said. Flash's speedforce/time travel powers can get weird.

Everything can be explained by Speedforce.

 

[Boke1879]

Everything can be explained by Speedforce.

Yea you're right

 

[Pachimari]

Okay I'm definitely sure now. That Knightmare scene is a look into the future, foreshadowing Darkseid, and in that Knightmare sequence is where we will see minor glimpses of Cyborg, Aquaman and The Flash all in costume.

I just know I'm 99% on this one. I'll sleep but I can't stop reading this thread while I count down the hours.

12:30 hours left!

 

[jackdoe]

I mean...

Look, I'm not gonna say that the various JL (and onward) teases weren't effectively shoehorned in, but they don't need to be as much of a problem as they currently are.

Well that's true. But I feel even with added connective tissue, the scene would have still felt completely out of place. There really isn't much you can do about it outside of flat out removing it. And I think they may have considered it, but it was shot on expensive IMAX cameras so that was out of the question. Only Bryan Singer could get away with cutting a a very expensive sequence out of a movie.

 

[Corpsepyre]

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I read that theory and it suggests that it's Bruce's memory from that possible future collapsing into this current timeline. Which gives Bruce the impression it's a dream. Don't know if I'll go with that yet. As you said. Flash's speedforce/time travel powers can get weird.

Didn't know much about Flash earlier on. Thought its a guy who runs fast, and then I read Flashpoint....

 

[DecoReturns]

Well that's true. But I feel even with added connective tissue, the scene would have still felt completely out of place. There really isn't much you can do about it outside of flat out removing it. And I think they may have considered it, but it was shot on expensive IMAX cameras so that was out of the question. Only Bryan Singer could get away with cutting a a very expensive sequence out of a movie.

I think Nolan can too until one of his movies fails to being the big bucks.

 

[Sgt. Kabukiman]

Okay I'm definitely sure now. That Knightmare scene is a look into the future, foreshadowing Darkseid, and in that Knightmare sequence is where we will see minor glimpses of Cyborg, Aquaman and The Flash all in costume.

I just know I'm 99% on this one. I'll sleep but I can't stop reading this thread while I count down the hours.

12:30 hours left!

Stop reading this thread! Someone ban this man for his own good.

 

[IconGrist]

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I read that theory and it suggests that it's Bruce's memory from that possible future collapsing into this current timeline. Which gives Bruce the impression it's a dream. Don't know if I'll go with that yet. As you said. Flash's speedforce/time travel powers can get weird.

Huh? That makes no sense and as far as I'm aware has never been a thing that's happened to anyone but

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Flash during Flashpoint where his memories of one timeline clashed with the new one. There's no reason (even comic book-y reason) that would happen to Bruce. I just think trying to explain time travel in a movie in any sense gets you in trouble and it's best just to accept what's given, lol. Insert "Speedforce. I ain't gotta explain shit" meme.

 

[ryan299]

Everything can be explained by Speedforce.

 

[Lord Virgin]

I think Nolan can too until one of his movies fails to being the big bucks.

Once you create a BO hit for WB, you'll get a pass for at least 5 movies. Nolan is set for life.

 

[Sgt. Kabukiman]

Once you create a BO hit for WB, you'll get a pass for at least 5 movies. Nolan is set for life.

How many movies have the Washowskis left on their pass? Or are they already over the limit? To be honest, I wouldn't mind them doing a Superman movie but it would probably end ud bombing harder than Green Lantern.

 

[DecoReturns]

Once you create a BO hit for WB, you'll get a pass for at least 5 movies. Nolan is set for life.

Good point.
He's one on what? 6 movies with BO success, brought back Batman bigger then ever, convenienced a Superman Sequel, couple Oscars awards and Nominations, and also gets stuff done early and under budget.

Still I find it funny how WB trusted Nolan with Batman after his only movies were Following, Insomnia, and Memento. I can understand after watching Batman Begins, but I wonder how much Nolan had to push for it.

 

[johnnydrama]

Good point.
He's one on what? 6 movies with BO success, brought back Batman bigger then ever, convenienced a Superman Sequel, couple Oscars awards and Nominations, and also gets stuff done early and under budget.

Still I find it funny how WB trusted Nolan with Batman after his only movies were Following, Insomnia, and Memento. I can understand after watching Batman Begins, but I wonder how much Nolan had to push for it.

WB have always had a thing for newer directors and experimental films, and I respect them for that.

 

[DMczaf]

WB have always had a thing for newer directors and experimental films, and I respect them for that.

Like when they gave Catwoman to a French VFX supervisor.

 

[jackdoe]

Like when they gave Catwoman to a French VFX supervisor.

To be fair, still a better idea than handing off a big budget, sci-fi sequel in an established franchise to a screenwriter with no prior directorial experience.

 

[DMczaf]

To be fair, still a better idea than handing off a big budget, sci-fi sequel in an established franchise to a screenwriter with no prior directorial experience.

Wait...I don't know what movie this is in reference to lol

Blade 3?

 

[broncobuster]

WB being crazy led to Mad Max. Jupiter Ascending and Pan are worth sacrificing.

 

[jackdoe]

Wait...I don't know what movie this is in reference to lol

Blade 3?

Star Trek Beyond. Paramount was seriously considering letting Roberto Orci direct it until they snapped out of the crazy, drug induced state and realized it was a mistake. David Goyer has one directorial credit before Blade Trinity at the very least.

 

[Cooter]

WB being crazy led to Mad Max. Jupiter Ascending and Pan are worth sacrificing.

Amen brother

 

[IconGrist]

I agree. I appreciate WB taking risks. They don't always pan out, and not even as often as I'm sure WB would like, but when they hit they fucking hit. I'll take that over safe any day of the week. And it's not like they don't have franchises to rely on that will always make bank regardless to keep the money coming in.

 

[Kenzodielocke]

WB also makes triple A video games and I appreciate too.

 

[onipex]

Don't know if it was posted yet but Batman v Superman will be the fourth biggest worldwide opening of all time if weekend numbers hold. Link.
That puts it ahead of any Marvel movie.

 

[johnnydrama]

WB also makes triple A video games and I appreciate too.

Arkham series, Injustice series, Lego series, Telltale (upcoming), and the rumored Suicide Squad and Superman games. I love that they give a shit, and I wish Disney would, too.

 

[IconGrist]

Arkham series, Injustice series, Lego series, Telltale (upcoming), and the rumored Suicide Squad and Superman games. I love that they give a shit, and I wish Disney would, too.

I just remembered WB makes the Lego Marvel games too. That Lego license is amazing.

 

[VanWinkle]

Am now in the theater wth my wife, my dad, two of my brothers, and one of my friends. Very excited. Theater is not packed at all right now but fifteen minutes to go still and people are coming in quickly.