WB/DC could use a critically and commercially successful film after BvS. It would help the DCCU going into next year.
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DC Cinematic Universe |OT| Superfriends with Benefits
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Yup and I do hope that SS is received well. I do think it'll be a "fun" movie
which they do need I think. It helps build up their world and does cameo batman. I'm hoping they throw us some nuggets about potential solo batman film storylines lol. And then we have WW which a lot of people can't wait to see more of. A trailer done well can bring in a lot of hype. Either way I'm there day one for it.Sgt. Kabukiman
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I wonder how deceptive that latest trailer was. The first one made Suicide Squad look like a very dark and grim movie which is exactly what David Ayer usually does. I would imagine that it was closer to what the movie is going to be than the Bohemian Raphsody trailer.
Yup and I do hope that SS is received well. I do think it'll be a "fun" movie
The little preview we got of the WW film already looked great. The character seems to be getting universal praise in BvS.
All they have to do is make a solid film.
Poodlestrike
Banned
Basically right after that first trailer leaked, Ayer straight up said that people were going to be surprised how funny the movie turned out to be. I think it's more representative.
Sgt. Kabukiman
Banned
Ah, I missed that. That's good news.
I'm extremely hyped for tomorrow lol. I want to see Wonder Woman swing the lasso and Batman taking downs goons Arkham Knight style, and I want to see Superman's struggles and how Washington deals with all of this. I'm also interested in seeing Gotham and Metropolis' reaction to Batman coming out of retirement.
If this is what you are looking forward to I think you will leave very satisfied.
This is probably where I would rate it as well. I expect the ultimate cut to increase my rating to 8.5. Will the ultimate cut include
the entire scene of Batman steeling the kryptonite from Lex Corp? We only see the aftermath, which looked fucking brutal.
Are you talking about BvS? Because there is no retired or semi-retired Batman in it.
WTH GUYS. You told me this movie was terrible and broken. I absolutely loved it! Some of the edits definitely bothered me
but overall I felt it was really good.
Personally it was like this movie threw the superhero genre on its head and I *loved* that. Where the Marvel stuff was stagnating for me, this absolutely made me excited for the genre again and I can't wait to see what Suicide Squad brings.
Reading some of the opinions in here and seeing the RT score over the past few days, I honestly thought this movie was completely broken, but as it turns out, it's just people treating this the same as MoS (which I loved) and making big deals out of little issues.
Is it perfect? Hell no. Is it objectively great? Nah to that too. But it was everything I expected, and more, and I honestly don't see how this movie is so offensive to some people. Even the humour and some of the character dialog were just terrific imo, and the tone wasn't nearly as oppressive as I'd have guessed from the reviews.
Goddammit. I'll never listen to GAF again.
(looking at you, JL cameos on the PC)
Personally it was like this movie threw the superhero genre on its head and I *loved* that. Where the Marvel stuff was stagnating for me, this absolutely made me excited for the genre again and I can't wait to see what Suicide Squad brings.
Reading some of the opinions in here and seeing the RT score over the past few days, I honestly thought this movie was completely broken, but as it turns out, it's just people treating this the same as MoS (which I loved) and making big deals out of little issues.
Is it perfect? Hell no. Is it objectively great? Nah to that too. But it was everything I expected, and more, and I honestly don't see how this movie is so offensive to some people. Even the humour and some of the character dialog were just terrific imo, and the tone wasn't nearly as oppressive as I'd have guessed from the reviews.
Goddammit. I'll never listen to GAF again.
Above all else, it felt like a mature, as in something that grew out of, a DC Animated film... which is something that made my childhood. That's why I felt I resonated with it so much.
I want to say no just because that's a lot of money to waste to cut something like that.
Also, Beautiful Lie is hauntingly beautiful. I dare anyone to tell me otherwise.
8.5. Suffered from editing problems but I enjoyed everything, I got all the motivations and the emotional gut punches resonated with me. Like the intro, damn nearly cried.
I want to say no just because that's a lot of money to waste to cut something like that.
Also, Beautiful Lie is hauntingly beautiful. I dare anyone to tell me otherwise.
The world only makes sense if you force it to.
8.5. Suffered from editing problems but I enjoyed everything, I got all the motivations and the emotional gut punches resonated with me. Like the intro, damn nearly cried.
I'd rate it an 8/10. The ultimate edition would definitely raise my rating to a 9/10.
I loved the cameos, especially
Beautiful Lie made that intro amazing. As in, I've never seen a superhero movie with an intro that epic before.
What was the track that played when Supes was going to stab Doomsday.
I loved the cameos, especially
The Flash's cameo. It was so epic. The nightmare, the way he was reaching out.
Beautiful Lie made that intro amazing. As in, I've never seen a superhero movie with an intro that epic before.
The Waynes murder was done so well. Didnt waste much time on it.
What was the track that played when Supes was going to stab Doomsday.
They trimmed the Knightmare scene by about 8 minutes I heard and that wasn't cheap to shoot either. I heard this from Jon Schnepp though, might not be true. I remember hearing Ahman Green was cut from the film and he plays a Lex goon.
thehypocrite
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Going to be pretty hard to miss coming off a $424M opening with no competition in sight for 3 weeks. It'll get to $1B even if WB has to start fudging numbers.
DecoReturns
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Can anybody explain the
I don't read the comics so I think I was sorta lost here.
Flash cameo in the nightmare scene? I couldn't understand what he was saying or why he was there?
I don't read the comics so I think I was sorta lost here.
johnnydrama
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This Is My World.
Flash was warning Bruce from the future through the Speed Force. He said that Lois is the key and that Bruce was right about "him". Who that "him" is though, we don't know. Lex, Clark, Darkseid?
Smokey_Run
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If we're talking score, I'd probably go with a 7/10. Second viewing raised it an additional point for me.
Sgt. Kabukiman
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He travelled back in time, presumably to warn Bruce about the dark future we saw in the Knightmare scene. He kept asking if he was too soon, meaning that he doesn't control his time travel ability very accurately and that Batman doesn't know him yet. He said that "Lois is the key". So, if she gets killed, it might start a chain of events where Superman turns evil or gets posessed by Darkseid (a huge Justice League villain, there were a lots of hints about him in the film).
Also, as Wingfan19 mentioned, he says "you were right about him". In the context of that scene, we assume he was talking about Superman but since he came back too early, that was probably a red herring and he was talking about someone else.
Also, as Wingfan19 mentioned, he says "you were right about him". In the context of that scene, we assume he was talking about Superman but since he came back too early, that was probably a red herring and he was talking about someone else.
To add to this, it felt like that scene was
ripped straight from Injustice, that alternate world
DecoReturns
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Damn mobile.
Okay thanks,
I got a little confused because the
actor they got for Flash had a mustache and I was trying to figure out if that was the Flash or somebody else. Didn't the injustice game had superman go evil when Lois died?
Sgt. Kabukiman
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Yeah, it was pretty difficult to recognize
the Flash
Injustice as well as Darkseid
turn evil
"BRUCE, BRUCE, LISTEN TO ME RIGHT NOW. SECURE LOIS LANE. SHE IS THE KEY TO THIS. AM I TOO SOON? I AM TOO SOON. YOU WERE RIGHT ABOUT HIM. YOU WERE ALWAYS RIGHT ABOUT HIM. FEAR HIM. FIND US, FIND US BRUCE"
Him in this context definitely refers to Superman, nothing else really makes sense.
Him in this context definitely refers to Superman, nothing else really makes sense.
Definitely talking about Superman. But we know the larger threat is Darkseid. I'm wondering Superman willingly allies with Darkseid or is being controlled by him?
The New 52 got me into reading Batman and the Justice League comic lines... but I dropped it almost right before Convergence where things got super weird and I didn't like the idea of finding out what was happening in a dozen other comics... but can anyone recommend if I missed anything in 2015? Like is it worth picking up a volume or something?
I'm waiting on the hardcover of American Alien by Max Landis in August.
I'm waiting on the hardcover of American Alien by Max Landis in August.
Simo
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Knightmare and Ending spoilers.
Seems like it's more of a set up for the JL movie part one or part two about what can possibly happen and now Bruce needs to find them to prepare for who's coming. Though Snyder has said part of those movies is the JL trying to figure out how to bring Superman back since its only his life-force you briefly see at the end and if they succeed he may not be the same.
All I did was stick with Batman by Snyder and Capullo so everything there was great and didn't spin off into other books, as far as I remember or they weren't needed.
I'd echo the same about recommendations for what to read for New 52 Superman or JL stuff since the early New 52 Superman and JL that I read I gave up on were shite. lol Just wondering if there's a better jumping on point or story line for those?
Sounds like killing off Lois Lane triggers Injustice Superman to me
Not where I want the story to go, since they've shit on Superman enough
Not where I want the story to go, since they've shit on Superman enough
DecoReturns
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My sister loves the scene and I was just sitting there thinking was this still a dream or did he wake up.
I think/ actually I would have I would have appeticate that scene more if listen better rather then trying to figure out who that was or why that was happening
I think/ actually I would have I would have appeticate that scene more if listen better rather then trying to figure out who that was or why that was happening
ShemhazaiX
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He's going to be referring to Darkseid or something. It's not Superman he's talking about. It'll be someone who gets close to the League members and Bruce is suspicious but everyone else is all "Nah, it's all good."
Corpsepyre
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Batman V Superman: The Theory of a Waking Knightmare
I think it's best people read this, especially those who have just watched the movie. Brings up some very interesting points, and helps explains that one sequence.
I think it's best people read this, especially those who have just watched the movie. Brings up some very interesting points, and helps explains that one sequence.
Sgt. Kabukiman
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Yeah, Convergence was terrible. Are you mostly interested in Batman and Superman or just DC in general? They are doing a major relaunch (not a reboot) in a couple of months so that will be a good jumping on point.
These last few months, I've enjoyed Lois & Clark, Starfire, Batman & TMNT and American Alien. I VERY highly recommend the digital title The Legend of Wonder Woman. It's a stand alone origin story and it's gorgeous.
A lot of people seem to like Justice League : The Darkseid War, I thought it was confusing but it's pretty popular.
Simo
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I don't think we'll get Injustice but it's likely to be an important plot device for the JL movies that Bruce is going to react to and save Lois so that possible future doesn't happen. The scene was just about setting up the JL with a wink of the big bad to come.
Poodlestrike
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Wow, you picked the exact wrong time to drop. Shoulda just skipped Convergence.
You should look into Gotham Academy, Justice League #40 onwards, The Omega Men, Martian Manhunter, Lois & Clark, at least.
Simo
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For someone rusty on the full DC universe like Darkseid and whatnot, this helps A LOT! Thank you!
I mostly stick with Batman and JL and I should've mentioned I really loved the Green Lantern run, especially the First Lantern stuff. It's hard keeping up with everything so I kind of need to pick my spot. Legend of Wonder Woman is a one shot? Love stand alone stuff, not a lot of investment required.
Poodlestrike
Banned
It's not a oneshot, but it is standalone. Definitely look into it.
Sgt. Kabukiman
Banned
By stand alone, I meant that it's not tied to the official continuity, so no crossovers or big events or anything like that. It is an ongoing series but it's really worth it. It's a digital series so it's only 1$ per issue, I think the first one might be free on Comixology.
The Green Lantern titles haven't been that great lately, although the Edge of Oblivion miniseries is alright. Probably best to wait for Rebirth.
Seeing it regular 2D,
I honestly thought it was Cyborg using a boom tube that was talking to Bruce. I was also too busy face palming at the obvious Justice League teaser to see the Mother Box.
Major Gripex
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I'm going to make this as convoluted as possible to highlight how internally conflicted I am about this movie:
The DC fanboy in me that judges this film by itself:
8.5/10
The DC fanboy in me that judges this film in the context of the DCEU:
3/10
The critical audience member in me:
5/10
The non-critical just wants to have fun at the movies audience member in me:
7/10
9/10 for me.
Maybe it'd change if I watched it again, but damn I loved this movie. Even all of my friends liked it, and a few of us loved it. A few people clapped at the end but it went away quite quickly lol.
Seriously, not getting the complaints. Just tidy up the editing/pacing and it'll be golden imo. Someone here said earlier that the movie has a lot of heart, and I have to agree. It felt so unique in its execution and totally against the norm. I loved it.
Maybe it'd change if I watched it again, but damn I loved this movie. Even all of my friends liked it, and a few of us loved it. A few people clapped at the end but it went away quite quickly lol.
Seriously, not getting the complaints. Just tidy up the editing/pacing and it'll be golden imo. Someone here said earlier that the movie has a lot of heart, and I have to agree. It felt so unique in its execution and totally against the norm. I loved it.
I dunno. I think Suicide Squad will be much closer in tone to the first trailer than the second.
Corpsepyre
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No problem. I'm glad I came across this as well. Makes things clearer.
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