• Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.

DC Cinematic Universe |OT| Superfriends with Benefits

Status
Not open for further replies.
BadAss2961

BadAss2961

Member
A Skrillex/Rick Ross song in a comic book movie basically means there's a lot of "fun."

Yeah, people will like this one. Fun is what's in right now.
 
SJRB

SJRB

Gold Member
So how's the new Justice League / Teen Titans cartoon?

Worth a watch for someone who doesn't give a fuck about Teen Titans?
 
N

Ninjimbo

Member
Watch SS get a 60% because of a 'clash in tones' or whatever. I wonder what the conversation will be like then. Ooooh boy.

Anyways, I say WB should stick to what they're doing until JL drops. Like Marvel, they should stick to their vision and eventually force people to like it. I don't really like Marvel's Phase 1 movies outside of Iron Man 1 which is still one of the best ever, but they kept going with that formula until Avengers finally came out and destroyed everything (in a good way for them!).
 
W

WhiteWolf

Member
Watched Son of Batman this past Saturday. I didn't really like it much at all, but it was funny when Damain said, "leave harlots."

All the movies post Flashpoint have been lacking, probably due to budget cuts. Dark Knight Returns was the last animated film I loved from DC.
 
P

Poodlestrike

Banned
Ninjimbo said:
Watch SS get a 60% because of a 'clash in tones' or whatever. I wonder what the conversation will be like then. Ooooh boy.

Anyways, I say WB should stick to what they're doing until JL drops. Like Marvel, they should stick to their vision and eventually force people to like it. I don't really like Marvel's Phase 1 movies outside of Iron Man 1 which is still one of the best ever, but they kept going with that formula until Avengers finally came out and destroyed everything (in a good way for them!).
Click to expand...

This is my fear. That they'll Gotham the review scores. Going "gee it doesn't know if it wants to be serious or wants to be silly" when the answer is... both.
 
G

guek

Banned
SJRB said:
So how's the new Justice League / Teen Titans cartoon?

Worth a watch for someone who doesn't give a fuck about Teen Titans?
Click to expand...

The title is a lie, it's mostly a Teen Titans movie and they barely fight the Justice League. It's lazy in a few places but overall I enjoyed it quite a bit. I'm a huge TT fan though.
 
J

jmood88

Member
Ninjimbo said:
Watch SS get a 60% because of a 'clash in tones' or whatever. I wonder what the conversation will be like then. Ooooh boy.
Click to expand...
I have no idea why you're starting this conspiracy theory already. Warner is two movies into their attempt at the cinematic universe and for as bad as Man of Steel was, it still had plenty of defenders in the professional reviewer community. Batman v Superman just wasn't good and it's not just because of tone.
 
N

Ninjimbo

Member
jmood88 said:
I have no idea why you're starting this conspiracy theory already. Warner is two movies into their attempt at the cinematic universe and for as bad as Man of Steel was, it still had plenty of defenders in the professional reviewer community. Batman v Superman just wasn't good and it's not just because of tone.
Click to expand...
I haven't skimmed any of the later reviews but the first 50 that showed up on RT complained about tone. It was definitely the prevailing factor being mentioned in the bulk of the negative reviews. But I don't want to talk about BvS's reception anymore. It's bad. Most people seem to think it's meh. I love it. Yadda yadda.

Regarding SS, I don't think it's a slam dunk because of the nature of the source material. I believe I mentioned this earlier in the thread. SS is something wholly unique and while I'm already on board, I have no idea how it's going to play to a general audience. The movie could get weird, y'know? Also, David Ayer, he has some similarities to Snyder in making movies with a grim tone. Go watch Fury. Its depiction of WW2 is far away from something like Band of Brothers or Saving Private Ryan.

I hope for the best of course. I don't want to shit up the thread anymore so I'll stop with the concerns.
 
E

Effect

Member
I mentioned that before. People are looking at SS as if it's going to be a comedy from the trailers. Look who is directing it and the nature of the books. Black comedy is what you're going to get. Even if it's has some laugh out loud moments you're likely going to see that followed up by some messed up things that push what is likely to be a hard PG-13 film. A good feeling film this isn't going to be. It might be fun but I expect a twisted type of fun. Things you wondering if you should be laughing about.

There really is no way to know how people will completely respond to this but I'm leaning more on the negative side. People will think it will be one thing and get something else. If part of the backlash against BvS is tone and feel then SS should be worse since it's dealing with villains are being sent on a suicide mission. Killing and violence should be higher in count. Hence the name of the film and team. This is why Guardians of the Galaxy was always the wrong film to try to compare this to no matter what. GoTG should never have come up in the same conversation. It sets the wrong expectation for this film and it's potential content even if the comparison was to show how it was a risk and out there idea to make a film about. People won't be latching on to that. The second people with audiences started using GoTG I think it stuck with a good number of people. Dirty Dozen should be used more when talking about the film instead to set expectations properly. That's Ayers references.

Maybe this is wrong and it won't be to dark or violent. Doubting that will be the case.
 
M

Major Gripex

Member
BadAss2961 said:
A Skrillex/Rick Ross song in a comic book movie basically means there's a lot of "fun."

Yeah, people will like this one. Fun is what's in right now.
Click to expand...

I know Skrillex from Epic Rap Battle of History and Rick Ross' name rings a bell but I can't for the life of me think of any of his songs. While I'm not a fan of either one of these guys, it's cool to see WB aiming their appeal to younger audiences. Sort of anecdotal evidence but last time I went to the movies with my youngest sister, she saw the Suicide Squad trailer in the theater and was really excited to see the movie. I thought that was pretty big as she doesn't really like Comic book movies.
 
S

shingi70

Banned
How you have Will Smith and Jared Leto in your movie and end up with a theme by Rick Ross and Skillrex.

DC is totally incompetent /s.
 
A

Anth0ny

Member
Skrillex and Rick Ross just means they're going after a younger audience.

However, everyone on the Internet will shit on Skrillex, so that's going to hurt the film. simple as that...
 
S

SENPAIatLARGE

Banned
thehypocrite said:
So edgy and original that even your reply is regurgitated dross.
Click to expand...

Is this Snyders Gaf account?

In all seriousness, you are being self destructively upset with the opinions of others in the thread. Just because BvS was poorly received by the majority doesn't take way your enjoyment. The DC CU is gonna be fine, Suicide looks great.
 
J

Jables Swan

Member
Anth0ny said:
At this point, the people who enjoyed BvS are the minority and thus not important. When the critical reception is as negative as it is AND it's underperforming at the box office like it is, WB has some tough decisions to make.

Just moving forward like nothing is wrong seems crazy to me at this point, honestly. And I liked BvS!
Click to expand...

Fans should always be important but I agree the critical reception and underperforming box office should be enough for WB to have to do something. Snyder has to go for me and I wouldn't be surprised if the Batman flick was pushed forward.
 
Dcube

Dcube

Member
I don't mind Snyder, he's done some really cool stuff. I think BvS had too much crammed into it and would've been a challenge for many directors to juggle, though not impossible.
In this case I just don't think he could keep up with his own vision, which is unfortunate because I think his style could fit well with these movies.
If they are keeping him around I'd recommend aiming for something shorter, simple, action heavy. Play to his strengths.
 
A

Arnie7

Banned
INST said:
Turned it off after like 5 seconds, the fuck is this shit. I thought the dude who did Gravity was doing the OST?
Click to expand...

There was a rumour that 2pac all eyez on me was being played during Jared Leto Joker Flashback in Lambo scene Maybe just a stand in for real music.

suicide-squad_set-photo_jokers-lamborghini-2.jpg
Click to expand...

I expect Suicide Squad to have a heavily influenced rap soundtrack.
 
BadAss2961

BadAss2961

Member
Dcube said:
I don't mind Snyder, he's done some really cool stuff. I think BvS had too much crammed into it and would've been a challenge for many directors to juggle, though not impossible.
In this case I just don't think he could keep up with his own vision, which is unfortunate because I think his style could fit well with these movies.
If they are keeping him around I'd recommend aiming for something shorter, simple, action heavy. Play to his strengths.
Click to expand...
Agreed at playing to his strengths. Not shorter though, just his strengths with better pacing. Action heavy is the key. He's amazing at putting together fight scenes that bring panels to life and gets the most out of characters abilities.

Contrary to popular belief, Man of Steel in particular, these movies didn't have much action. Most of it goes down in the final acts. Justice League needs to be paced with action scenes peppered throughout. Such an ensemble of heroes kinda demands it anyway.
 
P

PBY

Banned
BadAss2961 said:
Agreed at playing to his strengths. Not shorter though, just his strengths with better pacing. Action heavy is the key. He's amazing at putting together fight scenes that bring panels to life and gets the most out of characters abilities.

Contrary to popular belief, Man of Steel in particular, these movies didn't have much action. Most of it goes down in the final acts. Justice League needs to be paced with action scenes peppered throughout. Such an ensemble of heroes kinda demands it anyway.
Click to expand...

I want more 300-style action, or even Sucker Punch type scenes. The last scene didn't feel like Snyder to me to be honest, it was a CGI blob fighting 3 characters that I didn't feel was properly staged. Frankly, I thought it was terrible.

The Batman warehouse fight was great though, more of that. I even like slow mo.
 
P

Poodlestrike

Banned
I think that part of the problem actionwise is that the Knightmare is just about right where I'd slot in a big mid-early movie fightscene, and the Knightmare is... yeah.
 
P

PBY

Banned
Poodlestrike said:
I think that part of the problem actionwise is that the Knightmare is just about right where I'd slot in a big mid-early movie fightscene, and the Knightmare is... yeah.
Click to expand...

Sooo from trailer 3, I assumed that warehouse fight would have been an early intro to Batman - I think it would have set up the film better to slot that scene in earlier, with a different context.
 
P

Poodlestrike

Banned
PBY said:
Sooo from trailer 3, I assumed that warehouse fight would have been an early intro to Batman - I think it would have set up the film better to slot that scene in earlier, with a different context.
Click to expand...

That's partially from the trailer changes; the "I'm getting slow in my old age" tweak immediately after makes you think it's something from the beginning. A scene like it wouldn't have been out of place, though the creepy horror vibe of his real intro worked for me too.
 
I

IconGrist

Member
Poodlestrike said:
That's partially from the trailer changes; the "I'm getting slow in my old age" tweak immediately after makes you think it's something from the beginning. A scene like it wouldn't have been out of place, though the creepy horror vibe of his real intro worked for me too.
Click to expand...

What's funny is that line in the actual movie is, "You're getting slow in your old age, Alfred." He wasn't referring to himself at all.
 
S

Schweinehund

Member
Smallville is still DC's best cgi fight. Warehouse fight behind that, followed by
The trinity sequence, starting with Superman flying Doomsday into space
.
 
BadAss2961

BadAss2961

Member
PBY said:
I want more 300-style action, or even Sucker Punch type scenes. The last scene didn't feel like Snyder to me to be honest, it was a CGI blob fighting 3 characters that I didn't feel was properly staged. Frankly, I thought it was terrible.

The Batman warehouse fight was great though, more of that. I even like slow mo.
Click to expand...
Don't know what Patty Jenkins has in store for Wonder Woman, so Flash is probably the closest you'll get to 300 style action. He should get some good slow motion tracking shots from Snyder.
 
D

Discotheque

Banned
the worst news about the flash is that these fools said they are making cyborg a major character in the film...smh (well second-worst news, the director is..yeesh)

anyways action and comedy-wise they already have a great template in x-men's quicksilver. hopefully they can think of some imaginative setpieces for the character.
 
R

Ross61

Member
Discotheque said:
the worst news about the flash is that these fools said they are making cyborg a major character in the film...smh (well second-worst news, the director is..yeesh)

anyways action and comedy-wise they already have a great template in x-men's quicksilver. hopefully they can think of some imaginative setpieces for the character.
Click to expand...

Deborah Snyder never outright said that. Websites are spinning that like its concrete. And we never got a outright confirmation on the director either.
 
J

jackdoe

Member
duckroll said:
Yeah, the writer of Abraham Lincoln Vampire Hunter is making his directorial debut on it apparently.
Click to expand...
I hope someone at WB smartens up and thinks for a second that it's not such a bright idea to hand a 150 million dollar, effects driven movie to a first time director. Paramount did it. I fully believe WB can too.
 
D

duckroll

Member
jackdoe said:
I hope someone at WB smartens up and thinks for a second that it's not such a bright idea to hand a 150 million dollar, effects driven movie to a first time director. Paramount did it. I fully believe WB can too.
Click to expand...

Disney did it with Maleficent and it didn't turn out too badly for them boxoffice-wise!
 
J

jackdoe

Member
duckroll said:
Disney did it with Maleficent and it didn't turn out too badly for them boxoffice-wise!
Click to expand...
Haha. That was a terrible movie. And WB already played that game and failed with Transcendence. I cannot comprehend how they would consider rolling those dice again.
 
D

Discotheque

Banned
he wrote beetlejuice 2, lego batman and flash.

that's too many great things being given to the guy behind abraham lincoln vampire hunter. i hope he's decent.
 
R

Ross61

Member
Retracting my statement on the director of the Flash, since unless WB and Seth are trolling then he is most likely the director. Seems he was already tapped to do Lego Batman writing. I have a feeling the Flash will be way more lighthearted. And I'd be fine with that.

Edit: And if they're giving him this many opportunities, than they must be really impressed by what he's shown them.
 
T

The Driver

Member
I'm really hoping Zack brings back the speed ramping a bit in JL.

Feel like a reason why people didn't care as much for the Doomsday fight outside of WW's GOAT moments was because a lot of the "fight" consists of Superman and Wonder Woman pinballing off of Doomsday inside of a storm of fire and dirt. You can't get a good sense of what's going on.

There's a shot of Batman looking on as Wondy engages Doomsday and it kinda looked like a scene from DBZ when when characters go at it and you hardly see them outside of these little white flashes and tons of debris getting kicked up.
 
R

ryan299

Member
Ross61 said:
Retracting my statement on the director of the Flash, since unless WB and Seth are trolling then he is most likely the director. Seems he was already tapped to do Lego Batman writing. I have a feeling the Flash will be way more lighthearted. And I'd be fine with that.

Edit: And if they're giving him this many opportunities, than they must be really impressed by what he's shown them.
Click to expand...

Has the guy publicly talked about directing it?
 
E

Error

Jealous of the Glory that is Johnny Depp
CfOtzMUUIAAz2H5.jpg
CfOtzM7UUAAHQFp.jpg


wondy set pics

looking goooood. so glad they are using real locations, sick of green screen nonsense.

edit: daily mail is censored in gaf, lol wtf.
 
Kibbles

Kibbles

Member
Anth0ny said:
Skrillex and Rick Ross just means they're going after a younger audience.

However, everyone on the Internet will shit on Skrillex, so that's going to hurt the film. simple as that...
Click to expand...

Meh it just might be the first song in the credits to close out the movie. Seems like a fun song to go out on.


Oh and Suicide Squad spoilers regarding the subway monster:
http://i.imgur.com/Whe8gkX.jpg ... I wonder how that's going to go down.... Enchantress demon fucks with the Joker maybe? He definitely doesn't even appear to be alive or conscious of it.
 
D

Dead

well not really...yet
Seems a whole platoon is getting stranded on Themyscyra and not just Trevor

Kibbles said:
Meh it just might be the first song in the credits to close out the movie. Seems like a fun song to go out on.


Oh and Suicide Squad spoilers regarding the subway monster:
http://i.imgur.com/Whe8gkX.jpg ... I wonder how that's going to go down.... Enchantress demon fucks with the Joker maybe?
Click to expand...
Yep, that's what I thought that was
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Similar threads

Ben Affleck, Henry Cavill, Gal Gadot, and Ezra Miller - not in new DC
21
2K
NahaNago replied
Suicide Squad: Kill The Justice League |OT| Sent to Die
18 19 20 21 22
1K
65K
T-0800 replied
Suicide : Squad; Kill The Justice League | Review Thread
Analysis Review 4 5 6 7 8
355
32K
Certinty replied
Suicide Squad won't be the last game in the Arkham series, says DC Boss
Game Dev
31
2K
Torrent of Pork replied
Variety: When Superman and Batman Copyrights Expire in a Decade, Will It Be Kryptonite for DC?
20
2K
Skyfox replied
Top Bottom