I mean, putting all that aside, the Ghostbusters trailer was horrific in terms of actual content, actually saw it for the first time when I went to see BvS and was shocked at how bad it was. But no doubt if the movie is shit as it looks to be, it will definitely be a huge shitstorm online
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Which is totally fair. I'm not that hot on it myself (probably gonna catch it on Netflix), and the girl I saw BvS with said it looked like shit.
If it's bad, it's bad. Much like BvS, there'll probably be a ton of legit criticisms to levy at it. But I think both* will be special cases in the sheer amount of bile they stir up online.
*Again, assuming GB is actually bad.
To be fair Feig's films usually make for bad trailers. He's like a reverse Snyder.
That sequence is nowhere near 10 minutes long.
Discotheque
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it's crazy how far it's seeped into the 'casual' crowd too. i was talking about how i thought suicide squad looked la flame and then somebody (who never reads online about movies or anything) mentioned that they heard it was having problems with reshooting because of the batman reviews lol
and then when I was at the theaters this weekend i ran into some acquaintances and they asked me if i was there to see batman v superman because they were skeptical about watching it because of the reviews.
RT owns people now and the nerd blogs are starting to get some leeway too.
Poodlestrike
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How long is it? Felt like 10, but I wasn't timing or anything. Closer to 5?
If that.
Poodlestrike
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I don't know...
It goes:
-Bruce standing over the ridge w/ binoculars
-Bruce meets the Resistance guys
-Bruce gets betrayed
-Long fight
-Superman in the bunker
Sure as hell felt longer than 5.
Agreed, Bruce should have seen the Flash when is already awake, that would have worked awesome, as it is we dont know if he still dreaming or what, bothers me a little.
This is what I didn't like about that. Up until that point I feel one can understand what just happen even if they don't understand why it happen. It helps explain Bruce's outlook and gives another reason to do what he's doing. What happens at the end shouldn't have been done. All that did was add an extra layer of confusion that wasn't at all needed. That entire section
with the Flash should have cut right out of the film. As soon as Bruce woke up the first time that should have been it. Then go right into him viewing the data that was unlocked. Or if you must have it then after he awakes the first time that's it. Then he sees Flash and then he disappears. You don't have him wake up again after that.
I saw BvS. I am scared for the justice league and the DC movie universe in general. Nolan has trolled the hell out Warner.
The movie is sloppy, convoluted even though it lacked depth, and stupid. A lot of what goes on in the movie feels unearned and the plot hardly makes sense because there isn't much meat to it. And Joker Luther is terrible. Would not have mattered who played him, there was nothing to work with.
The movie is sloppy, convoluted even though it lacked depth, and stupid. A lot of what goes on in the movie feels unearned and the plot hardly makes sense because there isn't much meat to it. And Joker Luther is terrible. Would not have mattered who played him, there was nothing to work with.
Hmm I would guess maybe 3-5 minutes.
Lord_Byron28
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I think a lot of people at this point find this rumor to be BS.
What did he mean by this?
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Well damn if we cant trust Devin Faraci's sources then who can we trust
DecoReturns
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You can trust me.
My sources claim that Rope Guy dies in this movie.
And Batman is in it.
100% legit.
Shit like this is why I think we need to reevaluate how much space and attention we're giving blogs and rumors.
Got dudes out here reporting from sources how much "fun" is in the movie. As if "fun" is an objective, quantifiable thing. smh
What did he mean by this?
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I've heard through the ropevine that the Rope Guy might replace Cyborg's movie slot in 2020. Also Harley Quinn is the 7th founding member of the Justice League, Suicide Squad ends with Batman recruiting her.
This would be amazing
broncobuster
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The blogs and rumors are largely harmless but the audience taking everything at face value, without a hint of skepticism is the problem. Vast majority of bloggers report on a rumor in a predominately opinion piece. What you end up with is a warped game of telephone. The initial rumor, which may or may not be based in truth, is confused with the opinion and spread. But that's how discourse is on the internet.
Really, rumors are best to reflect on for the absurdity. The "I'm 95% certain Spider-Man won't be white" rumor still cracks me up.
Razgriz-Specter
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Well even just Teen Titans Robin is the only character that is 100% white human.
Cyborg - Black
Robin - White
Raven - maybe an Indian actress
Starfire - could be an asian actress
Beastboy - anything with green makeup.
Major Gripex
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DC should double down with diversity and have Bunker on the TT team. Having the first big screen gay superhero could be really fun. Also we need more Latino characters in general, my first choice would be Jaime Reyes but I'm not sure a solo Blue Beetle movie is possible right now.
Discotheque
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black robin would be fine. asian robin would be tight etc.
hell i been saying michael b jordan would be a great dick grayson if you think about it. get his comic book redemption too (under ben affleck or somebody else)
i have a feeling batman is going to be a very solo affair though. 20 years in gotham. this movie's bruce prolly told them all to go to hell.
hell i been saying michael b jordan would be a great dick grayson if you think about it. get his comic book redemption too (under ben affleck or somebody else)
i have a feeling batman is going to be a very solo affair though. 20 years in gotham. this movie's bruce prolly told them all to go to hell.
The Driver
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Nah fam, BvS is all about walking Bruce back from that precipice.
I'm indifferent to the Batfamily but I have a feeling they'll have some kind of place in this universe if only because Affleck seems to be kind of aloof when it comes to the long game of commitment to these movies.
I imagine WB's backup plan if the DCEU really does die in a fire like everyone seems to think it's going to (or happening already according to some) they'll just focus the universe on the Batfleck corner and any films that can get that Batfamily cosign like Teen Titans, Suicide Squad, etc.
Razgriz-Specter
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Would people accept Asian versions of most of the Batfamily.
Wouldn't they be considered double and triple stereotypes(martial artists, extreme intelligence, tech based)
based on past Gaf discussions?
Cass Cain is the Asian I need asap.
I wonder if the DC Rebirth setup for Blue Beetle would work on the big screen - Ted Kord training Jaime. A low budget version of Ted Kord hanging around with Booster Gold while trying to impart lessons on Jaime would be fun I think.
That's what I realized recently. RT has a lot of power over the audience. Makes you think how the extended cut would have fared...
I have an even bigger crush on her.
Kenzodielocke
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I am whelmed by the DCEU.
What always seems odd to me is people who see critics as some monolith who as a group to decide to like or dislike a movie. I mean I guess it helps with the persecution complex idea that critics are out to take out a movie, but there is no basis in reality in it. If a movie gets bad reviews it just means the majority of critics independently did not like the film.
The simplest answer is that Zack Synder has a history of making movies that critics rarely like and his movies tend to have very bad word of mouth. There is nothing really different at all with the critics and bad box-office legs with BvS than what happened to Sucker Punch or Man of Steel.
There is no conspiracy going on. People just tend to not like Synders style of movies for the most part, thats all there is to it.
The simplest answer is that Zack Synder has a history of making movies that critics rarely like and his movies tend to have very bad word of mouth. There is nothing really different at all with the critics and bad box-office legs with BvS than what happened to Sucker Punch or Man of Steel.
There is no conspiracy going on. People just tend to not like Synders style of movies for the most part, thats all there is to it.
WB mulls releasing fewer movies after BvS under performs. Hollywood Reporter
Report says the BvS budget is in excess of 300 million.
Report says the BvS budget is in excess of 300 million.
Of course Zach was gonna go or get the leash.
Maddocks
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The ship will be righted after Suicide Squad, they will finally drop Synder as director, he is fine with world building and from what I have seen the foundation is a good one, it just needs time to let things be built on it.
Have others direct and have synder do his little passion projects with the money he will earn by being producer of this world. They still have the best trump card they can have, The Rock, they just need to start releasing info on Shazam and let him be the billion dollar man that he is.
Have others direct and have synder do his little passion projects with the money he will earn by being producer of this world. They still have the best trump card they can have, The Rock, they just need to start releasing info on Shazam and let him be the billion dollar man that he is.
The fact WB was shocked it got bad reviews shows just how out of touch they are with audiences. Crazy. 300 mil though. Yeeeesh.
I suspect they are going to severely cut how many DC films they release and only go with the bigger name characters. Won't be surprised if Flash, Green Lantern Corps, and the Cyborg films quietly get axed.
I suspect they are going to severely cut how many DC films they release and only go with the bigger name characters. Won't be surprised if Flash, Green Lantern Corps, and the Cyborg films quietly get axed.
Kenzodielocke
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All it takes to make money are good Batman movies.
Imagine if TDK and TDKR were 3D/Imaxx releases.
Imagine if TDK and TDKR were 3D/Imaxx releases.
Poodlestrike
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Schweinehund
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It'd be a pretty terrible lesson for WB to pull that out of BvS. WW was universally praised and people were legitimately excited for her appearance.
I like that WB is at least sticking to their guns instead of resorting to aping Marvel.
I like that WB is at least sticking to their guns instead of resorting to aping Marvel.
BadAss2961
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Well, even in all the doom and gloom, the article suggests Warner's staying the course with the DCEU. So i'm good.
The universe is finally off the ground. DC's gonna make them a lot of money as long as they don't panic. Those that want it to fail are pushing for the scrap button now, they'll be disappointed later.
The universe is finally off the ground. DC's gonna make them a lot of money as long as they don't panic. Those that want it to fail are pushing for the scrap button now, they'll be disappointed later.
Poodlestrike
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In terms of quality? Not really. I think if they take the criticisms to heart we can pretty easily get a widely-liked movie out of it.
In terms of reception... I don't know. Frankly, I'm not sure that the average viewer really much cares about the director. The actors are the most visible bit, that's what they focus on from movie to movie. A lot of them get more into it, but a lot of them don't, they're just interested in the property and the on-screen talent.
Critical reception is another story, though.
Maddocks
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JL is Synder's last chance, if he fucks it up, he is gone forever. If JL with Batman,Superman,Wonder Woman and the rest of the crew shown fails to reach 1 billion, then say goodbye to Synder's involvement, he will be producer in name only. This I am confident about. He gets one more chance with WB and if JL is panned by critics and fans alike, then he is gone.
Personally, I think in terms of quality its fucked because I have zero faith in Zach - but I'm open to be proved wrong.
But no, I meant more in terms of reception and overall acceptance. BvS was so hated, and Snyder too, that I have a hard time seeing critics or the internet really giving it a fair shake.
Poodlestrike
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Word. We'll see what happens.
I think shit is super doom and gloom now (probably rightfully so bc this BO has been a shitshow), BUT I think that SS will do a lot of damage control and set the rest up fine.
Poodlestrike
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SS will help, but I think WW is what will sell people going into JL. I'm less certain of its quality (but then, no trailer), but if it really manages to get people to like the character, that + her performance in BvS could end up putting butts in seats, not to see Batman and Superman but to see Wondy.
Now that'd be a hell of a thing.
Poodlestrike
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Spider-Man is the only one of those I think it should be worried about. Kingsmen at a stretch. WWZ is striking well after that particular iron was hot, Despicable Me (and the minions) seem to have run their course, and Transformer's domestic BO keeps dropping. It'll do crazy well in China, though.
Moving it is probably the safer option, though.
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