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[BadAss2961]

DC rethinks it's Universe: http://www.vulture.com/2017/09/dc-wonder-woman-movie-strategy-universe.html

Very interesting interview with Geoff and Diane.

The editor mostly chimes in here. Making the universe thus far out to be a total failure, and adding juice to small quotes that aren't all that suggestive.

Still hate this hope and optimism campaign I keep seeing from Johns and Berg though. Sounds so fucking forced.

A thing that I absolutely hate about the article is how it says that Geoff Johns' view of superheroes is completely different and totally incompatible with what Zack Snyder has done in Man of Steel and Batman V Superman, which should read as absolutely counter-factual to anyone that's got even the slightest familiarity with Johns' body of work. Their storytelling style, the way they challenge their characters with extremely dark shit to make their triumph over it and their inherent goodness shine that much brighter, it's the same school of thought that leads to the muder of Ted Kord in Infinite Crisis and Superman killing Zod.

There's a temptation to constantly paint the DCEU as in need of redeeming, and I feel like it gets in the way of looking at things as they are, which is intensely frustrating.

Yup.

 

[Loxley]

As a Superman fan it pains me to see all these cool JL posters without my main man ;_;

Spoiler

Lobo reference: unintended.

 

[Ross61]

 

[strafer]

Where is Superman?

 

[Inferno313]

these... fucking rule???

 

[J_Viper]

DIG THROUGH THE DITCHES AND BURN THROUGH THE WITCHES

 

[Tabby]

As a Superman fan it pains me to see all these cool JL posters without my main man ;_;

Spoiler

Lobo reference: unintended.

It bums me out we get cool ass posters but no Superman and Green Lantern, but we have Cyborg. I'm so salty.

 

[ZeoVGM]

I've come to this community with upsetting news.

You've been living a lie for three OTs.

 

[Ahasverus]

Yep. that's my marketing.

I've come to this community with upsetting news.

You've been living a lie for three OTs.

What falls, is fallen.

 

[J_Viper]

Can't help but laugh at that writer implying Supergirl's rendition of Superman is some huge hit

 

[Ross61]

Can't help but laugh at that writer implying Supergirl's rendition of Superman is some huge hit

I mean he was positive received from what I’ve seen

 

[Ahasverus]

Can't help but laugh at that writer implying Supergirl's rendition of Superman is some huge hit

This too, it sounded like uch an asspull. Not only Supergirl is a bland, unremarkable show, but its Superman is the literal definition of charisma black hole. Horrible costume, horrible writing, and let's be honest here, he's not Superan material.

 

[ZeoVGM]

Can't help but laugh at that writer implying Supergirl's rendition of Superman is some huge hit

I mean, perhaps the writer was visiting NeoGAF threads about the show.

Because it they all end up like that thread about the article did, I could understand him thinking that version of Superman is a huge hit.

For reasons.

 

[b&jy77VjiKn$#F]

if batman is blue then what is superman

 

[Ahasverus]

if batman is blue then what is superman

dead

 

[strafer]

I mean, who would you rather have defend the world.

 

[Penguin]

these... fucking rule???

These are really cool

Why weren't these char posters?

And why wasn't this an official poster

 

[b&jy77VjiKn$#F]

dead

touche

 

[Ahasverus]

I mean, who would you rather have defend the world.

Bizarro has too been a hero, Strafer,

 

[Leo_Sagittarius]

This too, it sounded like uch an asspull. Not only Supergirl is a bland, unremarkable show, but its Superman is the literal definition of charisma black hole. Horrible costume, horrible writing, and let's be honest here, he's not Superan material.

B-B-but...his butt!

 

[Ahasverus]

B-B-but...his butt!

Fake.

 

[strafer]

B-B-but...his butt!

 

[Tabby]

Can't help but laugh at that writer implying Supergirl's rendition of Superman is some huge hit

Just goes to show people don't care if Superman is an untrustworthy ass who doesnt act like Superman, if he's smiling and cracks jokes people praise it.
It's stupid.

 

[Leo_Sagittarius]

Stupid sexy Cavill....it's not fair.

 

[The Kree]

I mean, who would you rather have defend the world.

Captain America

 

[Loxley]

I mean, who would you rather have defend the world.

I'll take Henry Cavill's hairy pecs for $1000, Alex.

 

[J_Viper]

 

[Ashhong]

These are really cool

Why weren't these char posters?

And why wasn't this an official poster

I will never stop complaining: stuff like this should have Superman. UGH

 

[Penguin]

I will never stop complaining: stuff like this should have Superman. UGH

WHO?

(Though I agree)

 

[Smokey_Run]

I really hope after the movie is out, they release all of this promotional stuff with Superman in it. I really want the Alex Ross inspired SDCC art with Superman included.

 

[Ashhong]

I really hope after the movie is out, they release all of this promotional stuff with Superman in it. I really want the Alex Ross inspired SDCC art with Superman included.

This would be acceptable. I suppose.

 

[strafer]

I really hope after the movie is out, they release all of this promotional stuff with Superman in it. I really want the Alex Ross inspired SDCC art with Superman included.

Yes please.

 

[Bleepey]

Just goes to show people don't care if Superman is an untrustworthy ass who doesnt act like Superman, if he's smiling and cracks jokes people praise it.
It's stupid.

I don't watch Supergirl. But tell me more. Also I have been saying this for ages.

 

[Dead]

A thing that I absolutely hate about the article is how it says that Geoff Johns' view of superheroes is completely different and totally incompatible with what Zack Snyder has done in Man of Steel and Batman V Superman, which should read as absolutely counter-factual to anyone that's got even the slightest familiarity with Johns' body of work. Their storytelling style, the way they challenge their characters with extremely dark shit to make their triumph over it and their inherent goodness shine that much brighter, it's the same school of thought that leads to the muder of Ted Kord in Infinite Crisis and Superman killing Zod.

There's a temptation to constantly paint the DCEU as in need of redeeming, and I feel like it gets in the way of looking at things as they are, which is intensely frustrating.

I thought the exact same thing to be honest.

 

[a916]

I really hope after the movie is out, they release all of this promotional stuff with Superman in it. I really want the Alex Ross inspired SDCC art with Superman included.

They should just release ONLY Superman posters from when the movie drops to even it out.

 

[Inferno313]

lol this was dumb

 

[Ahasverus]

uh oh

Thanks Whedon

 

[Penguin]

uh oh

This is not a rumor... not even sure why you're sharing it

When the source can't even confirm or deny it

 

[bryanee]

lol dumb tweet is dumb.

 

[Penguin]

Wait

Hold up

Is the "source" of this rumor a satirical Twitter account?



https://twitter.com/Unreel__News/status/913838733044207617

 

[Leo_Sagittarius]

The circus is in town.

Brace yourself fam, these coming weeks will be one hell of a ride

 

[Poodlestrike]

I see we've entered the "literally everything anybody says about [movie] is true" part of the cycle.

 

[MHWilliams]

I've come to this community with upsetting news.

You've been living a lie for three OTs.

Folks can throw up alternate thread names!

This too, it sounded like uch an asspull. Not only Supergirl is a bland, unremarkable show, but its Superman is the literal definition of charisma black hole. Horrible costume, horrible writing, and let's be honest here, he's not Superan material.

When he debuted, he was by and larged, loved. He was also pointed at as what folks wanted from Superman. (See currently: Star Trek Discovery and The Orville.)

 

[a916]

Wait

Hold up

Is the "source" of this rumor a satirical Twitter account?



https://twitter.com/Unreel__News/status/913838733044207617

Holy crap some of hte stupidity in that thread... LOL... "this can't be true!"

Well no duhhhh. You can't embargo a movie after release. If you can walk into a theatre and watch it, you can review it. You're under no such embargo LOL.

 

[Major Gripex]

I see we've entered the "literally everything anybody says about [movie] is true" part of the cycle.

Right on time too. That DCEU trainwreck is never late!

 

[Ninjimbo]

You can't have a DC movie without a negative hype cycle. All aboard the doom train.

Seriously tho, I'm waffling on this movie a lot. One day I'm hyped for it and on another day I'm completely meh towards it. I don't know where to set my expectations especially after Snyder left.

Part of me wants the movie to be a crowd pleaser just so that I won't have to endure all the doom speculation. But the other part of me wants something that finishes what MoS and BvS put in motion. A film somewhere along those lines.

So how are all of you riding the JL wave?

And what are you doing to past the time until then?

 

[Dead]

tbh I'm just expecting something as safe as possible at this point. I'm not expecting any of the interesting undercurrents that Snyder and Terrio were weaving into BvS to show up anymore.

If anything it's for the best since I'm assuming from the start of filming adjustments were being made, so it was never going to live up to what w as being set up. Better to have something safe be delivered than something butchered like the BvS theatrical cut.

I wish we could get a graphic novel adaptation of the full uncompromised story that Snyder and Terrio were going to tell from BvS through JL. That would be neat.

 

[Vyer]

A thing that I absolutely hate about the article is how it says that Geoff Johns' view of superheroes is completely different and totally incompatible with what Zack Snyder has done in Man of Steel and Batman V Superman, which should read as absolutely counter-factual to anyone that's got even the slightest familiarity with Johns' body of work. Their storytelling style, the way they challenge their characters with extremely dark shit to make their triumph over it and their inherent goodness shine that much brighter, it's the same school of thought that leads to the muder of Ted Kord in Infinite Crisis and Superman killing Zod.

There's a temptation to constantly paint the DCEU as in need of redeeming, and I feel like it gets in the way of looking at things as they are, which is intensely frustrating.

It’s not exactly counter factual to a lot of his Superman work. Secret Origin, for example. There is definitely a little hyperbole from the author of the article, sure. Either way, I don’t think they’re similarities are all that strong some ‘dark’ stuff or not.

 

[Leo_Sagittarius]

So how are all of you riding the JL wave?

And what are you doing to past the time until then?

I'm not exactly feeling the hype yet, but I will be as we get closer.

I was never in a Whedon/Snyder camp per se, as I liked both director's previous works.

So if this means that JL "at best" it's a by the numbers Whedon movie and "at worst" a divisive Snyder movie...It would be a win/win situation for me regardless.

Just wanna see these characters I love kicking behinds.


But I will not kid myself even for a second that critics will enjoy it in any way shape or form.

Can't wait for GAF's Celebration Review Thread

 

[J_Viper]

When he debuted, he was by and larged, loved. He was also pointed at as what folks wanted from Superman

All seven people who watch Supergirl are used to trash though.

I can't recall anyone outside of CW fans who were enamored with that version of him, surely not to the level the Vulture writer claims it is.

I'm not exactly feeling the hype yet, but I will be as we get closer.

This is what I'm feeling too.

The last trailer was a miss for me. I'm hoping this last one really brings it.

Either way, the GAF

Spoiler

and /tv

thread is going to be a fucking ride