That reminds me that I trashed DOA5 Vanilla OST in the survey.
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That reminds me that I trashed DOA5 Vanilla OST in the survey.
ShinMaruku
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Sent in my survey. I told them to make DOAX3 with more sports and a refined NG4 with lessons from NG3:RE
My tag training sessions:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3PrUPyYGp8
My tag training sessions:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3PrUPyYGp8
YoshiStrife
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Yeah, I think the good ones that stand out to me are Mila's and Hitomi's themes.
I think the rap is what most people hate.
Ultimadrago
Member
I said the music was ho-hum in quality, neither here nor there. I should have used more of the special soundtracks when playing Ultimate on PS3 as I'm guessing I missed the better tracks due to that.
Stage music was boring and sometimes even awful, Character music was a mixed bag and dont get me starting on the credits theme of the Story Mode and the shit stain on the online lobby. Dont care how much the guy loves DOA that is trash.
Demoskinos
Member
I guess no Honoka or Raidou placement yet?
Wooooah there, no need to diss Lotus Juice, man.
That Dude John
Member
Added myself to da list. Also filled out most of the survey. Didn't really have the perspective of the series as a whole given that the 5 series and it's iterations are the only ones I've played at length, but I typed out what I thought. Hope somebody is actually reading them.
Skyfireblaze
Member
YoshiStrife
Member
How would I do this?I thought they can only be bought.
If you're on Core Fighters the DOA2/3 music must be bought. Unlocked by playing modes in full version.
How would I do this?
I did it by beating arcade mode a handful of times. I was playing Tag so I'd unlock maximum costumes.
Also, I think DOA5 has its share of good music. Helena's track in particular stands out (as it did in DOA2) but there are some other good ones in the mix. It feels like classic fighting game stuff. I did assign "Blazed Up Melopheme" to Sarah though, so I'd get to hear it. I also use the DOA1 character select music in the main menu/character select. Love it!
Ultimadrago
Member
Yeah, it's kind of like beating an older game and getting a "Game Over" at the end. I'm sure it's just another way of telling it's submitted.
More like Stale Juice.
I hadn't seen these comments before doing the survey but that's pretty much word for word the stuff I said. I gave them hell about the music, overabundance of DLC and poor communication with fans. I also made sure to praise them for what they get right - the gameplay, game balance, character design, costume design, art style
Also:
1. Hitomi
2. Rig
3. Kokoro
(I just wish I didn't find my favourite character the least attractive!)
Stages:
1. Zack Island
2. Flow
3. Hot Zone
As for game suggestions, I suggested "Dead or Alive: Beach Sports" (Watersports would NOT work as a name, lol) and suggested volleyball, beach football and jetskiing as the core features, and told them to look at Wii Sports Resort for an example of how to do it right. I fucking LOVE Wii Sports Resort. That with cute girls instead of bland Miis would be my game of the forever.
So I forgot to say what I wrote in the survey:
-Love stages like Forest, Sakurai, and Lorelei/Haunted Lorelei. Was disappointed with how Forest looked blurry in DOA5U but very happy its fixed now. Love colorful levels and want to see more of those and not as many that are dark, industrial, or brown. More stages that feel alive!
-Love the ability to unlock old music from previous DOA titles. Specifically called out "Blazed Up Melopheme" and the original DOA 1 character select theme (which I now use in the main menu/char select) Trashed the song from the gym/boxing ring in DOA5 and talked about how it was boring and didn't have any character. Also mentioned that Helena's new track is awesome.
-No more childlike characters. One of the best things about DOA was that while the female characters are sexy and marketed as such, they are all grown adults and very womanly with varying body types. Marie Rose looks about 12 years old and a game with lingerie and swimsuits is no place for her. I realize not everyone here will love that opinion, but I like characters like Christie, Helena, Pai, etc. because they all look like women aged 18-34 and I got no problem whatsoever with the scandalous outfits for them. In fact, I love those!
-Talked about how I like the highly detailed DLC outfits like the Halloween sets are inspired and exciting, but things like maids and nurses are all sort of the same and a bit tired.
-Talked about wanting a DOA XBV game like the OG Xbox title and less like Xtreme 2.
-Asked for DOA6 but also stated that its important for the teams to be excited and passionate about the projects they are working on. I want them to feel that way and create new games if necessary because the passion will come through in the game and be better for everyone.
That's all I can remember right now. I really took my time with it, but dammit I forgot to ask for Fatal Frame Wii U to come to the states. That's my only regret.
-Love stages like Forest, Sakurai, and Lorelei/Haunted Lorelei. Was disappointed with how Forest looked blurry in DOA5U but very happy its fixed now. Love colorful levels and want to see more of those and not as many that are dark, industrial, or brown. More stages that feel alive!
-Love the ability to unlock old music from previous DOA titles. Specifically called out "Blazed Up Melopheme" and the original DOA 1 character select theme (which I now use in the main menu/char select) Trashed the song from the gym/boxing ring in DOA5 and talked about how it was boring and didn't have any character. Also mentioned that Helena's new track is awesome.
-No more childlike characters. One of the best things about DOA was that while the female characters are sexy and marketed as such, they are all grown adults and very womanly with varying body types. Marie Rose looks about 12 years old and a game with lingerie and swimsuits is no place for her. I realize not everyone here will love that opinion, but I like characters like Christie, Helena, Pai, etc. because they all look like women aged 18-34 and I got no problem whatsoever with the scandalous outfits for them. In fact, I love those!
-Talked about how I like the highly detailed DLC outfits like the Halloween sets are inspired and exciting, but things like maids and nurses are all sort of the same and a bit tired.
-Talked about wanting a DOA XBV game like the OG Xbox title and less like Xtreme 2.
-Asked for DOA6 but also stated that its important for the teams to be excited and passionate about the projects they are working on. I want them to feel that way and create new games if necessary because the passion will come through in the game and be better for everyone.
That's all I can remember right now. I really took my time with it, but dammit I forgot to ask for Fatal Frame Wii U to come to the states. That's my only regret.
Eolz
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Team Ninja started talking about it on Twitter yes. It's just hard to communicate on this while trying to fix a game at the same time.
Really bad timing.
Wasn't sure as well, sent a mention to Koei Tecmo Europe to ask them. Those in NA can always try the same with KT NA.
Edit:
I agree with the rest of your post, but I think it's nice Marie Rose was added, because she's different.
Don't think she looks 12 years old too, big exaggeration. I've met girls between 16-20 that had the same body type. Obviously she dresses and act like your typical animu younger character archetype though.
Smiles and Cries
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giant bomb quick look lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7-hV9ZP8Os&spfreload=10
I am at work and have not watched yet but I'm imagining endless sighs and eye-rolling at the breasts.
Admittedly, it did take me quite a bit of research and confusion to wrap my head around the DLC. (The descriptors on the two $93 packs are fucking atrocious...especially for full game buyers wanting the lagging content)
Shocked that Jeff actually remembered Fate Douglas in the DOA lore, that is practically expanded fiction shit given he was never seen or playable in the Saturn/PS1 game.
Nah, one of the rare QL's that won't outright piss you off. They do get steamy at the DLC, but speak generally positively of the game and modes. Barely spend much lipservice on the fanservice argument thankfully. Online was a complete failure for them though, didn't work at all. (I have similar problems still)
With Tina I just bait them to attack me block and grab them most of the time.I do half of the combo so it confuses the opponent and proceed to new strings.
Mila I havent played much with her sadly.
ShinMaruku
Member
When they say the survey is closed is they have submitted your information. It's probably a bad translation.
DOA always had a rich story but people are selective in what they will say on the game. Then are are people who say they don't care about the story, but I bet if it was good they'd respond in the first place. (I am of the view that all games have bad stories but that should not stop people from trying if they have the ambition)
I don't mess with Tina too much but Mila? Master he fake grapples and down grapples, she will force people to tech, where you can have an idea where they will be. It's a big reason why her position on the tier list is iffy because too few people actually put in work with her. She has guaranteed shit.
DOA always had a rich story but people are selective in what they will say on the game. Then are are people who say they don't care about the story, but I bet if it was good they'd respond in the first place. (I am of the view that all games have bad stories but that should not stop people from trying if they have the ambition)
I don't mess with Tina too much but Mila? Master he fake grapples and down grapples, she will force people to tech, where you can have an idea where they will be. It's a big reason why her position on the tier list is iffy because too few people actually put in work with her. She has guaranteed shit.
I have yet to find a ranked match on PS4. Plenty of player lobbies available though, which is what I generally prefer anyway. It was like this for me with DOA5, fixed in Ultimate, and now has reverted back. :/
Eolz
Member
Do the command trainings if you didn't yet .
But yeah, use throws with Tina (you can add one in most combos) and switch up styles (she's actually pretty good with most types of attacks, not only throws). For Mila, use her attack speed at close range as your advantage, use fake moves in the middle of combos and try to pin your opponents to do more damage. Edit: Mila's biggest problem is that you need to get her at close range to be really effective.
At least, that's how I play them.
.But yeah, use throws with Tina (you can add one in most combos) and switch up styles (she's actually pretty good with most types of attacks, not only throws). For Mila, use her attack speed at close range as your advantage, use fake moves in the middle of combos and try to pin your opponents to do more damage. Edit: Mila's biggest problem is that you need to get her at close range to be really effective.
At least, that's how I play them.
Use the Throwdowns go on practice and you get matches easier there.
RenegadeXV8
Banned
Apologies if this has already been answered, by why IS the marketing for this game so sleazy like they mention in the QL?
It's a pretty competent fighting game, right? So Is there a reason they decide to pander to the "pervert" (for lack of a better term) market rather than on the basis of its gameplay?
Probably where the money is.
I still have issues finding matches via throwdowns. I just gave up and use lobbies.
tbh I found Marie's acting not that bad. It's Honoka the moe animu character.
Btw I found Marie really fun to use...
Nonsense!
Because they seemingly get so much money selling sexy outfits.
TomcatTheLion
Member
Wat.
Indeed she is. Immediately took to her since DOA5 vanilla like I did with Tina in DOA1.
Eolz
Member
This basically. Vanilla 5 had a way more serious marketing, and even Ultimate to an extent. They just saw that this didn't work to have a bigger userbase (unlike Core Fighters), and the DLC sold really well, even more when it was a bit less... classy.
It's really a difficult problem to solve, even if you divide it back between regular DOA and Xtreme again.
Oh I agree. But both are typical archetypes really, just different.
Over-exaggerating, but Honoka is the joke character "big-breasted moe & a bit stupid schoolgirl", Marie is the typical "smart loli knowing how to get what she wants and using wrestling moves on the main character".
Over-exaggerating once again, but it's not hard to find comparisons in anime
nor is it particularly hard for the other characters tbh
That is the only reason I use her.
Yep
First 9 minutes is nothing but them going off on the DLC. Not sure I'll watch the rest.
Ultimadrago
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Mila~ <3
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Eh, I just think she has the worst body of all the girls. She used to be quite lithe and slim but now seems almost chunky. (As chunky as a toned athlete person can be, anyway.) Her thighs are so big that it makes her look just a little heavy rather than lithe and agile, and it also makes it look like she has no bum, which is super weird. She also doesn't have as much hip flare or hip-to-waist difference as the other girls, making her look a little less feminine and a little more heavy. The way the light falls on her stomach makes her look like she's not quite toned there. Her breasts seem way too big for her frame, and look quite like bolt-ons. And I don't really feel that way about any of the rest of the girls, so it's not just a 'lol DoA' thing. Her face is probably the blandest in the game, and when she opens her eyes wide she looks bovine and gormless rather than cute. Basically every other girl has a more attractive face, some extremely so (Nyo, Kokoro).
In terms of attractive bodies, Mila, Christie, Momiji and Leifang all have more appropriately slim-style bodies that would have suited Hitomi better than what she currently is, I feel. Helena and Rachel are a similarly curvy characters but unlike Hitomi I think they 'wear' those curves better, and they have more hip flare anyway, and were never a super slim character in the past. I don't know, I just don't like her design at all, and she's the only female I don't really like the look of. But because I play the game for the gameplay, she's still my fav as I love to play as her and know how to play her and have been doing so forever.
And yes, I have spent a silly amount time looking at these models. Why do you ask?
lol
EDIT: I think the fact that they had to change Hitomi's design due to fan backlash shows that they did struggle with what she was supposed to be, so I'm not exactly surprised.
Well now that we're posting pics again I guess I gotta bow out of looking in here at work.
And the Giant Bomb QL isn't bad. They bag on the DLC but its all legitimate complaints about how confusing it all is. When they play the game and talk about it, its generally positive. They do a poor job of showing the stages though. They do two fights in arenas that look pretty similar, then two more fights in the damn circus stage variants. They did have a round in Lorelei though so thats cool. But still, no Forest, no End of the Earth, no Zack's Island?
And the Giant Bomb QL isn't bad. They bag on the DLC but its all legitimate complaints about how confusing it all is. When they play the game and talk about it, its generally positive. They do a poor job of showing the stages though. They do two fights in arenas that look pretty similar, then two more fights in the damn circus stage variants. They did have a round in Lorelei though so thats cool. But still, no Forest, no End of the Earth, no Zack's Island?
YoshiStrife
Member
Audio sadly goes out of sync, but great vid.
I think the new ninja costumes are some of the best costumes they've made. Kasumi's is fantastic. More costumes representative of the characters themselves are needed. That's going in me survey.
Still loving the game, no issues here on PS4 so far, played it all weekend. One thing I really wish they brought over from DoA3 (and maybe previous ones I forget?) are the endings for each character. The story mode has a lot of cut scene stuff that's fine but I really hate not having proper endings for every character, they were very entertaining I thought and it's a huge peice missing in this game in my eyes.
Don't worry, I put that in the survey
We need an arcade mode like DoA4's again. Where you had random battles with a couple of set battles determined by your character popping up every so often, then a final battle (preferably not against a boss, though), and then an ending.
Some of the DoA4 endings were priceless. I can remember almost all of them by heart. Amazingly, the guys had even better endings than the girls. Brad's acid trip, Zack's stop-motion matinee adventure, Eliot's time-lapse training - so much good stuff. Leifang's train mishap probably takes the prize for 'most classically DoA' moment, though.
Thanks for pointing that out. The audio should be fine after the second fight. It was a problem with my elgato hd 60.
