Hoya Destroyer
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OK. I finally got the Mila swimsuit and got some pics for people who are interested. She looks goooood.
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Dead or Alive 5 |OT| Put a little bounce in your sidestep!
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I'm so angry those aren't the pre-order items and we got crap bunny outfits with crap fuzzy textures instead.
Also the DOA5 in Dallas finals show what I'm saying about the high damage rate. 60 seconds rounds, 39 seconds first round. Ryu basically grabs two-three times and Helena loses with no ability to reset the round and run to a time-out or 10 second KO.
Round 2 (6:30) - Helena misses counter (6:38? Quality is crap on Youtube at the moment so can't be sure) or gets Critical Burst (6:41) combo'ed. Hayabusa launch->Izuna Drop from 90% to 50%. That's a 40% guaranteed combo.
Yes, he had to critical burst her (or have her miss her counter attempt) into that combo, but that's what I'm talking about: The damage rate needs to be lowered by at least 5-10% to where rounds aren't decided with one or two major breaks like that.
It's not enough to say "well, you need to critical/get them to miss reversing you." Given you can hit-stun pretty well and/or have them miss-counter to get a launcher you can get big damage easy.
Round 3 - Okay, that wasn't too bad, but yeah those rounds seem rare for the damage rate to be okay. But not all rounds at lower levels are going to be like that.
(And Set 4 shows that Hayabusa's launch->Izuna Drop does at least 20% on finishing so not devastating but still)
Of course, I'm not sure what health level they're playing on (Large? Largest?) but that also factors in. Playing on Normal health rounds are over too quick. It doesn't need to change into a Street vs Juggle vanilla time-over fest, but they need to change the damage rate into a variable damage rate to where the entire rounds aren't over in 10-20 seconds of longer round sets and health bars given you make 1 or 2 mistakes. It should be 3-4 mistakes allowed in low-level play to where both sides have a chance of winning instead of "shit, I missed my counter" *wait 5 seconds while stunned/possible launched into air where you can't do shit about it*
I'm not really angry, just annoyed
Also the DOA5 in Dallas finals show what I'm saying about the high damage rate. 60 seconds rounds, 39 seconds first round. Ryu basically grabs two-three times and Helena loses with no ability to reset the round and run to a time-out or 10 second KO.
Round 2 (6:30) - Helena misses counter (6:38? Quality is crap on Youtube at the moment so can't be sure) or gets Critical Burst (6:41) combo'ed. Hayabusa launch->Izuna Drop from 90% to 50%. That's a 40% guaranteed combo.
Yes, he had to critical burst her (or have her miss her counter attempt) into that combo, but that's what I'm talking about: The damage rate needs to be lowered by at least 5-10% to where rounds aren't decided with one or two major breaks like that.
It's not enough to say "well, you need to critical/get them to miss reversing you." Given you can hit-stun pretty well and/or have them miss-counter to get a launcher you can get big damage easy.
Round 3 - Okay, that wasn't too bad, but yeah those rounds seem rare for the damage rate to be okay. But not all rounds at lower levels are going to be like that.
(And Set 4 shows that Hayabusa's launch->Izuna Drop does at least 20% on finishing so not devastating but still)
Of course, I'm not sure what health level they're playing on (Large? Largest?) but that also factors in. Playing on Normal health rounds are over too quick. It doesn't need to change into a Street vs Juggle vanilla time-over fest, but they need to change the damage rate into a variable damage rate to where the entire rounds aren't over in 10-20 seconds of longer round sets and health bars given you make 1 or 2 mistakes. It should be 3-4 mistakes allowed in low-level play to where both sides have a chance of winning instead of "shit, I missed my counter" *wait 5 seconds while stunned/possible launched into air where you can't do shit about it*
ResidentDante
Member
OK. I finally got the Mila swimsuit and got some pics for people who are interested. She looks goooood.
Daaaaaaaaaaaaamn! :O
Hoya Destroyer
Member
I hate spending money as much as anyone but you'll get Mila and Hitomi in the same swimsuit pack! Dont delay, buy today!
Rhazer Fusion
Member
I never want to see the doll look again. Seriously. It was fine back in the day, but compared more detailed models of practically any 3D fighter out there new and old, the look is so antiquated and they look much better now. Also, I do not see how DOA4 is better than DOA5. Now visually DOA4 is more vibrant, colorful and has better textures in the backgrounds, but I think DOA5 has a slightly more grittier look, but it still looks good. Music in DOA4 is definitely better even though I like some tunes in DOA5 as well and it obviously goes for an entirely different style. Gameplay wise, I definitely prefer DOA5 though even though DOA4 still play well and for a fighting game, that goes a long way with me.
The Faceless Master
Member
so you're saying that people are hitting 40% critical burst combos on the regular in low level play?
Monkeylord
Member
So, what are the chances of ever seeing DLC characters or stages?
Remove that gif. You might get into trouble with it.
lazybones18
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You might want to remove that gif too Pupi
Hoya Destroyer
Member
Pretty much zero percent, IMO. I think we'll be lucky to see more outfit DLC.
I would love to see DoA4 seaside market stage return as it looks so nice is is the opposite of some of the gloomy, ugly DoA5 backgrounds.
Monkeylord
Member
I actually really liked DoAX2 for the diversity. They dropped the "Volleyball" part of the title because VB just became one of several activities (Jetski races FTW!).
I've not played it in ages though. I think I managed to get maybe 4 achievements.
I've not played it in ages though. I think I managed to get maybe 4 achievements.
Hmm so 3 would be good if they combined both games and improved on it.
Really?
Removed.
The Faceless Master
Member
you're aware that you quoted it, right?
I know all of this. Just sounds like you're complaining that you can't make more mistakes. Nevermind the fact that the damage is NOT guaranteed. That the stunned player has every opportunity to get out of each strike even up to the critical burst. That each strike the attacking person makes is a risk. Nevermind all that. Now you're saying the attacker shouldn't be rewarded for each of the risks he takes that is inherent in the DoA system.
Also, Hayabusa's Izuna drop is an advanced hold.
I've said all I want to. You're obviously coming at this from a different perspective than me. This damage is nothing new to 3D fighters.
Dreamer RD
Member
Swimsuits DLC contain suits that given for legend clear of time attack and survival or different?
Different, CE swimsuits.
The actual volleyball sucked. Beach Spikers and Outlaw Volleyball did it much better.
The pre-order outfits are also stupid bikinis with weird fuzzy textures. They look awful.
WiiU DOA Extreme 3 with touch screen...
akilshohen
Member
you won't even need the TV!
No multitouch? No thanks.
Vita version with gyro controls, multi-touch and a rear touch screen? Better.
Someone else knows Beach Spikers <3 <3 <3
Monkeylord
Member
Finally got all the costumes unlocked (barring the 3 legendary swimsuits).
Now for the uphill slog to get them and unlock Alpha (234 titles obtained so far).
I need to go to bed!
Now for the uphill slog to get them and unlock Alpha (234 titles obtained so far).
I need to go to bed!
Pimpbaa
Member
I hope so. Really hard to um.... appreciate the girls in their bikinis when they are jumping around and shit.
Hoya Destroyer
Member
Because of swimsuit Mila?
If so, TN should be giving me a cut, for promoting their game
Because of swimsuit Mila?
If so, TN should be giving me a cut, for promoting their game
That and what little I played yesterday.
That's why I've been with this series since 2. The stun game sucks. I hate critical bursts.
I'll step in and agree with him. I had way more fun with 4 than with 5.
Then go play the Stun Game with DOA4 which is more crazier there.
Canis lupus
Member
Do people still play DOA4 online?
Beats me I never played it online. (Never payed a dime for Xbox Live)
Critical burst has nothing to do with the stun game. By the time you're able to do a critical burst, you've already been in stun for 3-4 hits. If you like DoA2, it's really no different. Critical burst nets me a guaranteed launcher, but if you're guessing wrong all the time anyway, I'd get the same thing in any previous version of DoA.
And it's doubly odd if you say you like DoA4 more, since you're actually able to do damage in this game without playing the stun game (with certain characters, with other characters, the game is pretty much the same as it's always been). DoA4 had more situations which caused you to be stunned. More moves on normal hit that put you in stun.
Confusing and conflicting opinion here. It sounds like you're not sure what your problem is with DoA5.
If you hate the stun game, you should like critical bursts, but you should want to be able to do them at a lower stun threshold (a system that was already in DoA4).
You have less chances to counter and getting hit by a burst is annoying.
Take Zack for example. A lot of his fast kicks were really easy to counter after the first hit and you knew you could get that damage. Now whenever I use him online I have opponents that don't even try to counter.
Take Zack for example. A lot of his fast kicks were really easy to counter after the first hit and you knew you could get that damage. Now whenever I use him online I have opponents that don't even try to counter.
None of his kicks have ever been guaranteed on counterhit. It's no different in DoA5. You can hold them on counterhit immediately after the first one has touched you.
This situation is no different than it has been in any previous DoA.
If you're getting hit by a critical burst, aside from a few characters, it means that you have had several opportunities to counter. You're complaining that you don't get more guesses. Which, I suppose, is a valid complaint. It's just an odd one to me.
It's the sweet taste of holds, once you pop you just can't stop.
When I first played DOA2, Kasumi's Hi Kick counter was my favorite. She just hops up over a guy's leg and kicks him in the face. You just can't get that satisfaction from other fighting games.
Since then Kasumi's moveset has gotten way too goofy. I don't even play her anymore, so ironically the magic that had me captivated from the start is gone.
When I first played DOA2, Kasumi's Hi Kick counter was my favorite. She just hops up over a guy's leg and kicks him in the face. You just can't get that satisfaction from other fighting games.
Since then Kasumi's moveset has gotten way too goofy. I don't even play her anymore, so ironically the magic that had me captivated from the start is gone.
She's one of the characters who has changed the least since DoA2.
But anyway, what you mean to say is that you love the stun game, since that is what affords you more opportunities to make mistakes and counter.
Dude, I just want to say.... you're by far my favorite poster after that God damn green T-Rex.
Ragingnight
Member
not surprise that DOA players want things to make their game considered less as a competitive fighter. Reminds me of Masters.
No we bloody well don't. The vast majority of players want more guaranteed options.
Monkeylord
Member
I need to learn me some blocking, STAT.
Seems that I get countered or blocked any time the computer damn well pleases, but one hit and that's it... poof goes (on average) half of my life bar, and there's nothing I can do about it except watch my character bounce around stuck to the computers toe or fist.
Shit's unreasonable!
Seems that I get countered or blocked any time the computer damn well pleases, but one hit and that's it... poof goes (on average) half of my life bar, and there's nothing I can do about it except watch my character bounce around stuck to the computers toe or fist.
Shit's unreasonable!
The Faceless Master
Member
the CPU reads inputs. you can't use that as a judge of ... anything.
Hoya Destroyer
Member
Pupi got banned for quoting that GIF?
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