Cool. Hopefully no DLC characters though. Don't mind more DLC bikinis.
I still wanna buy someone's Amazon preorder code if they are willing though.
Hayashi said on an interview that they won't be selling DLC characters or unlocking them.
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Hayashi said on an interview that they won't be selling DLC characters or unlocking them.
The biggest change I noticed in my initial playthrough is much less reliance on counters. If I saw a predictable string, sure I threw one out there, but otherwise it's not worth the risk to spam. You'll get owned if you do.
Critical Bursts are not easy to get a hang of. You really need to know your character's stun game in order to take full advantage of them. And since just about all of the Power Blows are predictable middle punches, CBs are crucial to using them.
Also, not every character has advanced holds.
Critical Bursts are not easy to get a hang of. You really need to know your character's stun game in order to take full advantage of them. And since just about all of the Power Blows are predictable middle punches, CBs are crucial to using them.
Also, not every character has advanced holds.
Speaking of Hayashi I was just wondering if he realized this was his last chance.
But the game appears to be great based on impressions, so I guess it's a moot point.
I'm down for any DLC costumes. It's unlikely, but it'd be cool if they sold unlocks for the rare costumes. No way I'm getting those.
lazybones18
Banned
Didn't play that, I was playing versus with my friends so didn't have time for it, but I know it will be really good based on other players' impression.
Well, at least the George St-Pierre reference (we've seen in the launch trailer) is nice, isn't it?
Early netcode impressions are making me
I would wait till the game is actually out.
Why? TTT2 had great early impressions. Persona's netcode issues on 360 were early impressions. SC's early impressions were good.
This is definitely enough to make me hold off on buying it for both consoles and see how it pans out.
Edit: I mean I will only buy it on one console, not cancel my preorders altogether.
MrCookiepants
Member
No reviews yet?
denshuu
Member
That's a really low bar, T6 was horrendous. It could be twice as good at T6 and still be unplayable. :/
Resolution
Member
Well I canceled mine. I guess if it were to get patched and it was much better than i'll pick it up from a black friday sale.
Was kind of expecting it but I couldn't care less: with fighting games my online/local multiplayer expecience has always been totally in favour of local vs.Early netcode impressions are making me
I'll feel sad, tho, if the game should end up being generally too bashed and overlooked - like KoFXIII - because of that.
Not enough people on. People may judge netcode based on Europe to US. TT2 was expected to be good, and so was P4 because they were tested with another game that shared the same code.
Wait, why is people so skeptical on DOA5's online? I heard DOA4 had a great online system. Or rather I never heard anything bad about it.
Also, do the characters have the same movesets in this as Dimensions? Decided to pop in Dimensions for some training so I can just jump right in on Tuesday.
Also, do the characters have the same movesets in this as Dimensions? Decided to pop in Dimensions for some training so I can just jump right in on Tuesday.
Gonna copy paste what I said in FSD
I'm gonna guess the effects might be hurting the online. The game has tons of things going on with the stages and their effects add up the sweat and hit sparks that maybe cutting them down to 50% probably might help the online be more stable. Afterall you got Ends of the World with all those particle effects which while not be the best looking thing toning things down can help the game. Not completely turn off effects on all areas but Hit Effects, Sweat and maybe even characters getting dirt on clothes off might help off the game be more stable online.
Tekken Tag Tournament in order to keep the Online smooth they sacrificed to some extent the visuals elimination objects and NPCs can be seen and same goes for some particles effects getting tone down. DOA5 might need in tone down some things to make it work at optimal conditions as posible. Hopefully nothing extreme like Tekken on tone downs but find a way to keep it into properly smooth gameplay. It can be done and I expect people to voice their opinion so they fix the online if its as messed up as it is being mentioned.
And I think DOA4 did had lag issues in the beginning that were fixed with a patch but still DOA4 Online System was great at that time because not a lot of games did what DOA4 did at the time and was one of the most stable (Also not a lot of fighters in the beginning) until later fighters came to the business. What was great back then isn't necessarily great by today standards. DOA4 today its not acceptable compared to TTT2, SCV and Virtua Fighter 5 Final Showdown.
A patch might help it but we'll see what happens in the end the online might be better than the initial impressions as it can be worse.
I'm gonna guess the effects might be hurting the online. The game has tons of things going on with the stages and their effects add up the sweat and hit sparks that maybe cutting them down to 50% probably might help the online be more stable. Afterall you got Ends of the World with all those particle effects which while not be the best looking thing toning things down can help the game. Not completely turn off effects on all areas but Hit Effects, Sweat and maybe even characters getting dirt on clothes off might help off the game be more stable online.
Tekken Tag Tournament in order to keep the Online smooth they sacrificed to some extent the visuals elimination objects and NPCs can be seen and same goes for some particles effects getting tone down. DOA5 might need in tone down some things to make it work at optimal conditions as posible. Hopefully nothing extreme like Tekken on tone downs but find a way to keep it into properly smooth gameplay. It can be done and I expect people to voice their opinion so they fix the online if its as messed up as it is being mentioned.
And I think DOA4 did had lag issues in the beginning that were fixed with a patch but still DOA4 Online System was great at that time because not a lot of games did what DOA4 did at the time and was one of the most stable (Also not a lot of fighters in the beginning) until later fighters came to the business. What was great back then isn't necessarily great by today standards. DOA4 today its not acceptable compared to TTT2, SCV and Virtua Fighter 5 Final Showdown.
A patch might help it but we'll see what happens in the end the online might be better than the initial impressions as it can be worse.
I don't remember that, but it was 7 years ago.
This is entirely possible, and to be honest I don't even notice the stages losing stuff in Tekken online.
I never expect netcode for an online game to be good. It's a pleasant surprise if it is. Early impressions have generally been accurate for fighters as far as I can tell. I can't remember a case where people said the netcode was great and it turned out to be garbage or vice versa.
I'd love to be wrong.
The toning down stuff only improved the performance, and not the way the game handles the packets. It frees up CPU resources. What they did is to off set the technical limitations of the console specs. For the netcode, they completely redid the way the game handled inputs since Tekken 6, and compressed the information being sent down to very minimal levels. Plus the game now syncs between rounds and stuff.
If they are using the same netcode they were using since Doa4, I'm worried because FG netcode has came a long way. Not if I should cancel more order or not =/
Ya same.
It can't be as bad as mk9/T6 though right?
Well on the school stage and the plaza stage and some others effect or object heavy you can see they cut down object and effects. (NPCs, pots, Flowers falling, even in some cases the hit sparks might be softened up a bit among other things) The players won't notice some stuff since they are into the match and not much time to focus on the scenery that much. Do not cut stuff from the characters visuals and most people will be fine.(Sweat, Dirt and hit sparks are not important to the game so they can surely go offline) I hope TN manages to see what makes TTT2 and SCV online systems good and study the compromises or tricks used to get the Online system on the most optimal conditions.
Memento_Mori15
Member
So it'll pretty much vary from user to user. I usually have a good connection, even on the JPN servers in MGO so hopefully this game won't be that laggy.
grap3fruitman
Banned
You're thinking of the wrong game, you're in the DOA5 thread.
While present in DOA++, DOA2 and DOA3 it was manageable, to an extent, in all three. It didn't get really crazy stupid ridiculous until DOA4. Though I think I like DOA++'s system the most and I'd like an XBLA/PSN release of that.
"DURR HURR HURR." Please stop talking because you're a moron.
Fixed that for you.
If she's anything like her DOA Dimensions self then she'll be one of the worst characters in the game.Found some Alpha-152 gameplay. She still seems to play the same unfortunately
You accepted the wrong part. The other part is frustration^∞.
I'm going to laugh if the fighting series that pioneered smooth online play is going to have the worst netcode this generation.Early netcode impressions are making me
If you dislike the game so much which you have since a very long time ago why the hell are you bothering so much with the game? You are just being whiny all the time and adding nothing besides repeating the same things over and over like a broken record. The game was not made for you move on and don't be a douchebag insulting people around because the game is not what you wanted it to be.
I am not insulting you on that comment to deserve the insult so please hold up that talk for when someone actually insults you.
Learning the new play style is so much fun. Team Ninja has really done an excellent job turning the focus from spamming counters to trying to get stuns.
I find myself concentrating and getting to that critical burst point more and more; and less so on countering.
And please don't listen to grapefruitman. He's a troll. He's been a troll on other DOA sites, too.
I find myself concentrating and getting to that critical burst point more and more; and less so on countering.
And please don't listen to grapefruitman. He's a troll. He's been a troll on other DOA sites, too.
hikarutilmitt
Member
This is entirely debatable. vf5,blazblue and recent Namco games have better.
Clairvoyance
Member
Okay.
PepsimanVsJoe
Member
Seriously dude I haven't been following this thread all that much but you sound like you have issues.
Still most likely gonna buy this one even if the netcode isn't great or even good. Bought all of the other DoAs (well...except 1).
EscapingJail
Member
Grape I find it funny that you have had the same argument for the past 7 years... Man when will you decide to drop it or move on to something else.
Really? :|
Kinda disappointed :/ First main DOA without a unique boss?
Pretty much but storywise makes sense since Alpha escaped in DOA4 and wasnt destroyed like the other bosses
So far mixed reactions from all I have seen. Some have had smooth matches while others havent gotten the same results at it. Hopefully things get fixed with a patch quickly.
NightAntilli
Banned
It's basically a bunch of alphas instead of one alpha, but yeah.. Same boss basically
The standards for 3D fighters are pretty high. SC, VF, and Tekken now have butter smooth netcodes. A FG has to be excellent for me to take it seriously these days, and next month there's Guilty Gear- a game I've hated for years, but would give one last chance.
I hope the initial reports are wrong and there is a day-0 or day-1 patch. I can wait a couple of days for that, I can be patient- VF allows me to be patient.
Spirit of Jazz
Banned
I'm curious as to why people think DoA4's netcode doesn't hold up to other 3D fighters today. I was playing the other week in a 4 man lobby and it wasn't noticeably different to modern 3D fighters to me. Admittedly the game had issues if you were running 16 man lobbies, but if you were playing with a reasonable number of people it worked great.
It would be hugely disappointing to me if the sequels netcode doesn't live up to its predecessor or modern 3D fighters.
It would be hugely disappointing to me if the sequels netcode doesn't live up to its predecessor or modern 3D fighters.
How did you unlock her ?
BTW, for trophy/achievement hunters, it's impossible in this game to get them all, there's a trophy that asks you to get all titles and these titles include play all characters 1000 times for each one of the them!
I can do that in 1 month if I get into it lol
ResidentDante
Member
Crap like this! So stupid cause they force you to play characters you dislike.
Memento_Mori15
Member
Isn't there really a 3000 win online title for all characters? Now that's way too much. Unlocking that final character will be too tedious if you need to get those titles to unlock her. Plus, there's no way I can win 3000 matches with Mr. Armstrong. :\
for real? thats just crazy. I will forget about trophy in this game.