DR2K
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They fixed X, fixed with y then nerfed it, and z is fixed for half the cast. Unfortunately this is just a beta build.
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Dead or Alive 5 |OT| Put a little bounce in your sidestep!
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They fixed X, fixed with y then nerfed it, and z is fixed for half the cast. Unfortunately this is just a beta build.
Wait for WiiU.
MrMephistoX
Gold Member
I'm the same way and its a shame because the other series' made me forget how much I adore DOA and VF. The improvisation aspect is key for me, sure you can memorize a string of combos but thinking on your feet is just as important. I won't say that isn't the case with the likes of SF but I feel like you have to memorize memorize memorize in order to win and can only get to improvisational stuff once you've memorized he same high level combo strings as the other high level players otherwise you're toast.
The Faceless Master
Member
You know I heart you, grap3, but its time to let go.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6pnzyfFi9w
and they broke W, which worked previously.
Man I hate going into that mode where I feel I can hold an attack and I constantly keep doing the hold animation while the opponent looks on in confusion.
Yep I love the spontaneous nature of DOA. The game imo has a rock solid system where even if I am getting battered by a high level opponent I feel I can get out of it with clever thinking. I dunno but in other fighters you do get a sense of some players being too over powered, and it discourages you from certain characters where you have to try harder to win.
Yep I love the spontaneous nature of DOA. The game imo has a rock solid system where even if I am getting battered by a high level opponent I feel I can get out of it with clever thinking. I dunno but in other fighters you do get a sense of some players being too over powered, and it discourages you from certain characters where you have to try harder to win.
Online mode.
grap3fruitman
Banned
I have let it go and I was having a good time online in VF5FS last night. I was merely just explaining my so-called "ranting" since you made it seem really sinister.You know I heart you, grap3, but its time to let go.
DR2K
Banned
Breast cam for Wii U pad or bust. This way you can see how they painstakingly made seperate jiggle animation for the clothing(or lack of) for the women.
Canis lupus
Member
Online is driving me crazy! Losing so many points pfft.
My win ratio has died completely over the few days. Down to 55% in ranked.
Also, you'd probably win more matches if you set it to more than one round.
Canis lupus
Member
My win ratio has died completely over the few days. Down to 55% in ranked.
Also, you'd probably win more matches if you set it to more than one round.
I started to play 2 rounds lately. My first 300 matches or so I had it set to 3 rounds, but I was sick of giving away the games in the end. Usually I go 2-0, and end up with 2-3 -_-
Btw you have a very high ratio.
Augemitbutter
Member
i thought i was immune to freezes in this game. today i got that black screen twice in online mode. no real freeze, but annoying nevertheless. yesterday infinite win screen versus jucksalbe here.
actually, you have to memorize every string and combo for every character in this game to be legitimately good. there is always a chance to get randomed out if you can't counter your opponent regularly. makes it harder to transfer your skills into gameplay, until you know the game in and out. it's a design decision to lower the skill requirement in the beginning - mid tier.
actually, you have to memorize every string and combo for every character in this game to be legitimately good. there is always a chance to get randomed out if you can't counter your opponent regularly. makes it harder to transfer your skills into gameplay, until you know the game in and out. it's a design decision to lower the skill requirement in the beginning - mid tier.
The story doesn't change as much as the gameplay between games, it helps give a sense of continuity to the whole thing, regardless of which moves, combos or systems get modified durung a series.
Sure, but I will never understand why somebody would buy a fighting game for the story. Well, I guess I could with Persona, because fans would probably care for it coming from an RPG, but otherwise...I don't get it. Never have, never will. Just completely foreign to me. Stories in fighters are invariably garbage and if you care about stories, you'd be better of playing games that put more effort into that aspect.
Canis lupus
Member
Wow, Tinas winning pose with a bikini
I agree, plus I'm waiting on Persona 4 Arena just to play the story. Deux points. I expect the story in P4A to be poor but retain interest in that it's more of a bonus thing and just for fun.
This isn't the first fighting game I've seen get flak for the story mode. Fighting game stories are inherently garbage due to their nature, as in they all need some really corny reason to bring a bunch of skilled fighters together in order to pummel people every other year. There really isn't many options, you could make a single protagonist but then you would be neglecting the other X number of characters in the cast or try to have them all play a role and well you end up with questionable actions/motives. I've read a lot of people saying the Mortal Kombat story mode was good and admittedly I haven't played it, but didn't they burn through like 20 years of already established story just do that? I will be impressed if people are as positive about the next MK story mode. In addition, the whole theme of Mortal Kombat is somewhat 'whacky', people would accept whatever drivel the story has easier than games with a more 'contemporary' feeling (difficult to explain this). I don't have any preference for a story mode or arcade endings, but if trying to offer a story mode is only going to get the game slated more than it would otherwise, then maybe they would be better off sticking to the traditional arcade ending and spending resources on other things instead. I have yet to finish the DOA5 story mode, but I have enjoyed some of the funnier moments in between the fights, anyone complaining just needs to put it in the right perspective, e.g. don't take it seriously. A dedicated thread could be good to be honest, there's an idea!
Hoya Destroyer
Member
Finally beat Legend Survival mode this morning. Huge relief.
Difficulty, clock time, health regained at the end of the round etc is the same as it was on Champ IMO.
I used Lisa to beat all 4 Survival difficulties.
Her 1p, k move was the attack I spammed the most. It has amazing range and good speed but its main purpose was to soften the opponent up for a Critical Burst<launch<hit<air grab/carwheel kick which would generally take off close to half their health. every time I got floored, I'd try to hit them with the mid/low wake up kick into 1p k and Critical Burst. This made comeback fights a real possibility, when I needed them (mostly against bloody Jan Lee).
Generally, I tried to stay away from the electric ropes/perimeter as they would screw up my combo or I'd get smashed against them. If you can stay in or near the red circle in the middle of the arena, you're good.
Lisas 7k p (body splash) attack worked great against the AI in general but especially well against turtles (Akira!). The body splash seems to break their guard so you can set them up for a Critical Burst into the afore mentioned combo.
Difficulty, clock time, health regained at the end of the round etc is the same as it was on Champ IMO.
I used Lisa to beat all 4 Survival difficulties.
Her 1p, k move was the attack I spammed the most. It has amazing range and good speed but its main purpose was to soften the opponent up for a Critical Burst<launch<hit<air grab/carwheel kick which would generally take off close to half their health. every time I got floored, I'd try to hit them with the mid/low wake up kick into 1p k and Critical Burst. This made comeback fights a real possibility, when I needed them (mostly against bloody Jan Lee).
Generally, I tried to stay away from the electric ropes/perimeter as they would screw up my combo or I'd get smashed against them. If you can stay in or near the red circle in the middle of the arena, you're good.
Lisas 7k p (body splash) attack worked great against the AI in general but especially well against turtles (Akira!). The body splash seems to break their guard so you can set them up for a Critical Burst into the afore mentioned combo.
The Faceless Master
Member
congrats!
so far i'm up to champ, where i haven't really broken past 60.
so far i'm up to champ, where i haven't really broken past 60.
Congrats! One of the first in the world to achieve this feat.
I can't speak for the genre in general, but I for one have been following SNK's stuff for years, and throughout those decades a lot of lore and subplots build up in different but connected games, some of them left hanging for upcoming games - individually each doesn't amount to much, but paying enough attention to each and how they follow from each other it ends up being like following a favorite TV show, only each episode takes years to come out.
As an example, I'm still kinda of hoping someday SNKP will bother to release a game that shows the results of the training depicted in my avatar here, for example, since that's got quite a bit going behind it, and at the same thing it would imply some merging of fighting styles from 2 or 3 characters which I'd be curious to see in action. Garou 2 would do nicely.
Having first become aware of some of the stories at an earlier age may have applied something of an imprinting effect to the whole thing, so grain of salt and all that.
For DoA I can't care as much, because in the end it always seems to boil down to ninjas running around and stuff exploding, but I did watch some videos of Dimensions, and that seemed to tie more closely into the Ninja Gaiden series (at least I think one of the NPCs with Hayabusa was from that), which was nice - at least I like it when stories are included in the context of a larger world.
For 5, I didn't expect much, though the trailers left me curious about a scene or two (Hitomi and Leifang going all Jungle Jane WTF?...), but there were still some nice moments, like the Bass/Tina meeting in the tournament, which for the genre wasn't a terrible handling of a father's concern for how his daughter is handling her life and how she deals with his attitude about it.
I wish the VF characters appeared more than once, and that Pai made her way in there somewhere, it would have been hard to replace Mila with her in Leifang's story mode.
Barely related, but am I the only one that finds it weird that you get no titles in DoA5 for finishing Zack's chapters in story mode like everyone else (well, Kasumi gets 3)? He's degenerated into a joke character years ago, but still, he's got a bit of a role in the events...
Also barely related: does akira ever actually say "Jyunen hayaindayo!" in the game like he did in the reveal trailer? He always says something else in his intro and victory animations... It's weirder still that he doesn't ssay it when challenging Kokoro in her story mode, but Zack jokes about that line (something like "those 10 years went by pretty fast") when the fight's over.
Hoya Destroyer
Member
60 is getting up there. Who do you use?
Thanks man. Being unemployed has its perks.
You can do it!
Thanks, I finished survival in DOA4 which gives me hope to finish it, but the problem is I don't want to go to survival hell again. T_T
KingJ2002
Member
I hear you guys... It sounds silly.. it really does because i've always ignored the stories (aside from MK... it was well done)
either way... i've been in training mode finding who i should main for DOA 5... this game has a different feel... a lot tighter and more precise than the other games... so i want to make sure i go in good.
either way... i've been in training mode finding who i should main for DOA 5... this game has a different feel... a lot tighter and more precise than the other games... so i want to make sure i go in good.
The Faceless Master
Member
I really appreciate DOA having a training mode for online play. Is there any other fighter that did this?
How do you unlock Alpha?
How do you unlock Alpha?
The Faceless Master
Member
get 300 titles.
I see. I haven't been following the titles so I don't know how many I have but it doesn't seem that hard.
Laughing Banana
Weeping Pickle
Is there any way to escape string of combos being continually unleashed against your character once you are caught in one? This thing is killing me ;___________;
The only thing you can do is try to get in a hold and disrupt it.
Laughing Banana
Weeping Pickle
Once getting caught in a combo my character always seem to get stunned or staggered though...
Getting caught in a combo is my #1 getting killed reason in this game right now.
Unless it's a critical stun you can still get out of combos by using the correct hold. In most stun animations all you can do is get in a hold. As long you're not lifted off the ground
Hoya Destroyer
Member
Lisa cant wear her glasses when she wears her swimsuit. Seems a bit weird, considering Christie and Tina can.
Canis lupus
Member
Wow, 800 matches played online already. Outside Dantis, haven't played any Gaffer yet.
Outside Dantis, haven't played any Gaffer yet.Wow, 800 matches played online already.
I think I have about 300 matches. And I would love to play a gaffer. I always look at the lobbies to see if their is a Gaf made one, never is.
ResidentDante
Member
Wow, 800 matches played online already.
Damn, 800 matches?!
Canis lupus
Member
Lets make a lobby today.
Damn, 800 matches?!
Some 400 matches are just 1 rounds though.
ResidentDante
Member
Hoya Destroyer
Member
Its hit and miss for me. I can lag with locals or play people in America (Im in Australia) with no lag.
Im pretty happy with it though I didnt think I would be
I think there's like two people from GAF on my friends list playing this game. Everyone is currently playing Borderlands 2, RE6, or TTT2.
I've found it be mostly-good online and limit searches to regional or local. This game is nothing like Tekken 6 was pre-patch.
Definitely not as good as TTT2 (the best), SCV, and VF5 online, but those games are all excellent online and this game is right below them.
I double-dipped on DOA5. It's essentially the same on both systems, although I thought that it did look slightly better on PS3. I spend most of my playtime on the 360 version of the game though.
I've found it be mostly-good online and limit searches to regional or local. This game is nothing like Tekken 6 was pre-patch.
Definitely not as good as TTT2 (the best), SCV, and VF5 online, but those games are all excellent online and this game is right below them.
I double-dipped on DOA5. It's essentially the same on both systems, although I thought that it did look slightly better on PS3. I spend most of my playtime on the 360 version of the game though.
Augemitbutter
Member
anybody else not happy with the sound mix in this game? we know the OST is not that great, but the mix is equally low-key. they didn't even bother offering dts or higher on PS3, like many other games do.
congrats, you definitely earned it. you're free now.
congrats, you definitely earned it. you're free now.