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Dead or Alive Xtreme 3 full cast confirmed, supports Playstation VR
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ShinMaruku
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That is probably part of it. I love it because it just shows some people are very strange with their standards. Honoka is not the only time they trolled people like that. Her sister in Ninja Gaiden 1-2 is 14.
In Japan it can be a good and bad thing, the youth is not catered to by the governemtn so they don't have governemnt programs to help the youth, then you have their batshit work culture that gets percentage of the population apathetic. I say it's a good or bad thing because their population could use a bit of a decline to clear out the old bastard population to force that country to adapt. Could be bad because too much of a drop and the market is fucked.BEHOLD.
THE FUTURE.
Man, we're fucked as a species. Not because we're perverted. But because people are seriously gonna start going "Real sex? Getting Married? Having Kids? Fuck that."
Isn't this actually like a real problem (or supposedly one) in Japan?
That would not be the most efficient way to live for our species, you forget we are pursuit hunters who are terribly violent.
Fine Ham Abounds
Member
Welp, last page of this thread made me happy to check it again
PepsimanVsJoe
Member
This is Gold.
1. Marie Rose
2. Honoka
3. Kasumi
4. Ayane
5. Kokoro
6. Nyotengu
7. Hitomi
8. Momiji
9. Helena
Quoted with https so I could see the images
ShinMaruku
Member
Remember everybody else will be DLC. DOA5 was a game that had less reliance on whales because 1.5 million of the 3 million userbase bought dlc packs.
DangerMouse
Member
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Haha
Diablohead
Member
amazing / 10
Well there were basically five slots open when you take away the two new faces of DoA (like it or not it's true) and the Ryu and Ken of DoA. So with a very limited number of slots available and Japan being their usual xenophobic selves it's not a surprise that it's the western and Chinese characters who got the short end of the stick.
Hcoregamer00
The 'H' stands for hentai.
Your argument would make sense if the NA and European lists weren't identical, just in different orders.
What NA and Euro lists? Any NA list without Tina deserves to be scrutinized heavy in my opinion and I don't even care for her that much.
Europe and US had votings too but they didn't count.
Eolz
Member
Votes were determined through the number of themes bought for each character.
We guessed (correctly apart from one position) the possible results via the number of reviews for each theme, and someone made a site calculating the same things for the other regions.
https://doax3vote.herokuapp.com/reviewtotals.html
There has been some changes in the NA/EU lists since the preliminary results (Tina wasn't in, she is now), but Marie always was in top 9 for example. Those votes just don't count, but this might obviously help KT choose which girls they should give some priority too when they bring this game to the west (so I guess this is like a really long-lasting popularity poll in our case).
Tina number one in Euro? My sides. Honestly Europe has the most agreeable taste here for me just for having Rachel above the cut line.
ShinMaruku
Member
You would have a point i Marie and Helena were not in They are very much western. Hell Hitomi is Western.
Marie is as western as her age is 18, Hitomi is half Japanese, and the last slot goes to Helena because there's literally no Japanese characters left to put in.
Yup. I'm sorry but the "young prodigal assassin" means she out-animes the entire cast easily. Out of all the characters, she's the least likely to ever make it into an actual western production (followed next by "young prodigal airhead" Honoka). Fuck the fictional lore and ages. They're designed for the audience, and that's why that audience voted them to the top so easily. And yes, that includes people living outside of Japan, that have a tendency towards buying Japanese things (especially PS Vita themes of all things).
And this is why I don't trust those NA and Euro results being indicative of the characters actual popularity in those areas.
TN isn't interested in "actual" popularity. They are more interested in what characters are wanted for people that purchase things additionally to the actual game. That's the type of fans that DOAX will be geared towards. The type that buys additional items for a game.
Edit: Do you also accuse western games of being xenophobic for not including Asian characters?
It's not something I throw around often in any circumstance. It's just kinda clear cut that they voted for all the Japanese characters (in actuality or spirit). And I didn't accuse the game of being xenophobic, I commented on Japan as a country being xenophobic, which they are and so is America and many other countries. The difference is that American xenophobia kinda balances itself in these situations given the diversity of the country. In Japan it's pretty one sided.
But you did indirectly accuse the game of being xenophobic by saying the cast reflects Japanese xenophobia. Yet I doubt you use as harsh words when whatever American game has less Asians than westerners. Why? Because you are emotionally invested in the characters that were rejected and thus letting that get the best of you. There are other reasons for girls being rejected in a beach volleyball game besides nationalism.
I didn't indirectly do anything in my view because the example you gave doesn't fit what I would consider a xenophobic game to be. A xenophobic game in my opinion would be a game that prompts xenophobia. This game is not doing that even if I was right and the voters were xenophobic. The game itself would be a victim of it, not a promoter. And again I don't use such harsh words often at all regardless of the side of the argument, so you can quit trying to make it seem like I do this all the time. And now that I think back my initial comment about xenophobia was slightly in jest in the first place. I was thinking of that "whitu piggu go home" video at the time I was posting and I find that video kinda funny for some reason despite being white.
Edit: Also the situation here is rather unique where we have a cast of characters that are from different countries and there was a vote. If the inverse scenario happened I would indeed say we collectively dropped the ball to say the least. But you're absolutely right, there's more than nationalism at play here, and you also made a good point about the vote being catered toward people who buy things.
No. Because we'd use the word "racist" instead.
Lisa would probably get cut out of the Western vote, too. Let's be frank.
rockman zx
Member
Thanks to Number 13 from FSD for the translation.
Get your import wallets ready.
It shouldn't be surprised. When they start super sexualizing Marie Rose, NA/EU won't react so well so they probably didn't want to bother.
ShinMaruku
Member
Yup Western version should come after they get their idea for the game down. The East will not buy enough DLC to make it worth their while.
As I said earlier no clearance with their Western Side so to be safe they say "East only" until they can hash things out and say "Shocking demand"
As I said earlier no clearance with their Western Side so to be safe they say "East only" until they can hash things out and say "Shocking demand"
rockman zx
Member
They can always replace Marie Rose with Tina or Leifang for the west.
ShinMaruku
Member
That is likely or they will give her custom swimsuits as well.
It was clear that with Marie Rose in DOA5, they tried to tone down her sexual appeal compared to the rest of the cast. Her bonus costumes and swimsuits were more 'tame' compared to other girls
Even when we look at the Halloween costume
this was the contest winner for Marie Rose
but we got
By making this Japan/Asia exclusive, they probably can go full force with Marie Rose swimsuits.
If they end up releasing western version, either her costumes will be censored or she will be just replaced by another girl like you guys mentioned.
Even when we look at the Halloween costume
this was the contest winner for Marie Rose
but we got
this for the actual costume in the game.
By making this Japan/Asia exclusive, they probably can go full force with Marie Rose swimsuits.
If they end up releasing western version, either her costumes will be censored or she will be just replaced by another girl like you guys mentioned.
What does Hayashi mean when he says western countries have their own standards? Why were the western distributors worried?
He means that a game that's about peeping at underaged girls in barely-there bikinis is going to have problems in the West. It's a niche title, but if it attracted some attention K-T could have some serious image problems and they don't want to risk. You could say that DOA5 was basically the same, but at least DOA has the excuse of having an actual game aside from T&A (or lack of them).
Boulevard Bob
Banned
Whaaaaaaat? What was the point of the contest? That's so well designed!
Eolz
Member
I think every winner still got a prize (signed stuff, artbook, goodies, etc). Just not his costume in the game.
Ohmygoditsjrod
Banned
Hey, I for one am hoping the volleyball is actually good this time around.