dragonflys545
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lol that's a short game.
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Deadlight |OT|
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BruiserBear
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Yes, but any rational person could also note, as you did earlier, that the in game clock really isn't that accurate. So what would be the point of that?
I don't get why people are complaining about the length, while a game like Braid can be completed in less than 45 minutes :/. That people have 1 hour and 30 minutes on the clock doesn't mean that they actually played 1 hour and 30 minutes, as the in-game clock doesn't count the time of your deaths and everytime you retry it. I played through the game twice now and I got about 8 hours of entertainment out of it, for only $12 bucks. In Holland we pay more than that to see a movie that's only 1,5 hours long.
I'd say just get the game if you like the trailers. You'll probably love it. I play a game because of the experience, the feeling it gives me, not because it's long or short.
I'd say just get the game if you like the trailers. You'll probably love it. I play a game because of the experience, the feeling it gives me, not because it's long or short.
Vinterbird
Member
An easy way to scare people away from buying the game. It's an. Easier way to make sure people buy it then do a well thought out reasoning as to why the game is bad, as people put far too much weight on game length these days.
BruiserBear
Banned
Yes, exactly, and that's why people post these exceeding low completion time claims, but now I'm confused. Your previous reply seemed to suggest you believed these 90 minute completion claims. So which is it?
Vinterbird
Member
If I came out sounding like I supported a 90 minute experience, then it was wrong and me being a idiot with words. In theory you could probably hit my actual completion time of two hours if you played perfectly, but I just used it during my post in the other thread because I had no idea how much time I had invested in actually playing the game, due to playing ten minutes and then going away for an hour and so on, so I used the game clock to get a basic idea of where it was in terms of length.
If that came off as a "dur, game is an hour" then I'm an idiot. Because its closer to the three/four mark depending on how quick you are with puzzles and so on.
The_Darkest_Red
Member
I have no problem paying full price for a game that's short (even remarkably so) if the game looks like it will be an exceptional experience (Journey, for example). On the other hand, when the quality of the game is also a bit of a question mark the length does become somewhat of a factor to me. As of right now I'm squarely on the fence with Deadlight.
I played the trial up to
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I love the art style and atmosphere and it did give me Flashback feelings but looking on the leaderboard and seeing a friends time at just over an hour for completion and it being £10 managed to put me off for now, plenty of other games to play.
the electricity zapping zombies
I love the art style and atmosphere and it did give me Flashback feelings but looking on the leaderboard and seeing a friends time at just over an hour for completion and it being £10 managed to put me off for now, plenty of other games to play.
I don't think a speed run of Braid is a valid comparison. Braid will have taken most people hours on their first run-through because of the time it took to figure out the puzzles. I eventually speed-ran Braid in about 37 minutes but that was literally running through the entire game perfectly from start to finish. First time through it took me about 6-7 hours.
The_Darkest_Red
Member
Yeah, I love when people use speed run times to talk about how short a game is.
"Metal Gear Solid 3 is like 4 hours long!"
I feel the same, completion time is meaningless to me as long as the experience is worth it. Journey is at best 2 hours long, and that game gave me a better experience than quite a few full priced games I have played this year.
toythatkills
Member
It doesn't count your deaths. When you go back to a checkpoint it resets the timer to where it was the first time you were at the checkpoint, so the rest of the time you've just spent dying.
bigdaddygamebot
Member
Please someone tell us it's nothing like I am Alive,I hated that game with a passion and I don't want to download an almost 2 gig trial to find out...from the video's I have seen(nothing big since I didn't want to get spoiled)it looked more like a Shank type game with less action and more atmosphere?
It still doesn't feel that short to me really, I feel like the timer isn't counting other stuff besides retries.
Talking about the length so much is kind of missing the bigger picture though, which is that the game isn't very good. It impresses with the visuals and atmosphere at first but the further into it I get the less I like it. It's repetitive, trial and error and bland. The dialogue is awful and the controls feel unresponsive The only thing keeping me playing is the visuals but now I'm underground so there aren't really any great vistas at the moment either. It's a C-grade game flattering to deceive with its presentation.
It's coming to steam eventually, which means better performance and image quality.
BruiserBear
Banned
I'm stuck in the first Act. I'm in this building, and the cursor is showing above me in this room, but I can't seem to get up there.
Any tips?
Any tips?
toythatkills
Member
Have you tried jumping towards the middle of the room to see if there's a hard-to-see platform there?
Failing that, can you wall jump to it?
BruiserBear
Banned
Just figured it out. Needed to wall jump.
WheelHoss1
Member
Don't care about length just want it to be cool.
Played the game til the point when
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Honestly, I fail to understand why this game should be bad or not even worth a try for so many reviewers...
Aside from the metascores, I find stuff like
- a painfully generic story and frustratingly imprecise controls
- frustrating player and enemy design makes discerning one from the other close to impossible in a fight
- sluggish controls
kind of false and misleading for the reader.
Rat and his son are finally reunited
Honestly, I fail to understand why this game should be bad or not even worth a try for so many reviewers...
Aside from the metascores, I find stuff like
- a painfully generic story and frustratingly imprecise controls
- frustrating player and enemy design makes discerning one from the other close to impossible in a fight
- sluggish controls
kind of false and misleading for the reader.
Where did you see this or are you just assuming?
Just finished it. Took me about 5 hours to get through with 100%.
Probably one of my favorite games on the service. The atmosphere was great, the music really added a lot to that.
Graphics are beautiful and I for one liked the story.
This is my kind of game.
It popped up in the Steam registry, but so did Iron Brigade a long time ago and that game is still not out. If Microsoft says no then it will not come to Steam.
Probably one of my favorite games on the service. The atmosphere was great, the music really added a lot to that.
Graphics are beautiful and I for one liked the story.
This is my kind of game.
It popped up in the Steam registry, but so did Iron Brigade a long time ago and that game is still not out. If Microsoft says no then it will not come to Steam.
AHA-Lambda
Member
Tried the demo and I enjoyed it, but the length, middling reviews and price are putting me off here =/
May just wait for a sale.
May just wait for a sale.
The leaderboard clock only covers actual game time on a successful run.
Deaths, retries, etc -- none of that counts in the leaderboard time. Plus, time is broken down by checkpont, so if you have a poor time on one segment, you can just tackle that to improve your overall standing.
If you're an achievement hunter, Deadlight may just be the easiest XBLA title to 400/400. No real effort to getting them.
WorthPlaying Review: 6.5/10
WorthPlaying.com said:
I'm embarrassingly stuck in a section of the ratman area. I'm in the part which is sort of his home, and there's an elevator which I can activate with the slingshot. When I get to the top, he reveals another button, but it just lowers the elevator again. I'm actually completely oblivious as to what to do. Any help?
When elevator is down, push box onto it.
Raise elevator.
Push box all the way to left.
Climb on box.
Jump to the left.
Wow. Tried that before and it didn't work. Turns out it was because I was sprint jumping.
Feel so dumb.
Dog Problems
Banned
Edit: Nevermind
TerryWogan
Member
Demo put me off. Character controls like he's bogged down in treacle. Reminds me of Flashback on the Amiga. But that had an excuse for feeling sluggish. Looks pretty, but it ain't the Metroidvania zombie game I was led to believe it would be. Might pick it up if it drops to 600 someday.
The demo is easily the best part of the game, just as a warning. It goes rapidly downhill after about 45 minutes or so, with one bad idea after another. It has some of the worst, most frustrating trial and error gameplay I've experienced in years. The problem is that when they up the intensity it really shows up the poor control responsiveness and consistently flawed level design that relies on you knowing what's about to happen. There's the potential for something great, and occasionally they reach it, but they drop the ball time and time again.
GuitarAtomik
Member
Yeah I'm pretty sure to be part of Summer of Arcade there is at least a 6 month exclusivity window.
If you had paid a bit more attention to this game you would have easily figured out long ago that Deadlight was never meant to be looked at as Metroidvania type game.
From the get-go the devs continually stressed the importance for people not to expect a Metroidvania type experience but rather a narrative driving puzzle platformer set in a "2D" world
toythatkills
Member
It's a 30 day window usually, but that doesn't necessarily mean a game will come out in 30 days. I'd expect Tony Hawk to, but Deadlight hasn't even been hinted at for a Steam release, has it? People could be waiting a hell of a long time for it.
TerryWogan
Member
I saw a trailer a while back, that's it. Tried it today and I think it's bad. The gameplay is slow, unresponsive and inaccurate.
The fact that I expected it to be a Metroidvania and am disappointed that it isn't doesn't change that.
Looks more like The Stand to me.
Nabs
Member
Wasn't Bastion a Summer of Arcade title? It was on Steam a month later. From Dust also had a month break between releases.
Tequila Works has been added to the Steam registry.
Fullfrontalgamer
Banned
i was stoked to play this game but after lukewarm reviews ill try bloodlines.
For those freaked out by the "Time Played" counter in the menu, it is NOT accurate. I interviewed Raul Rubio, Tequila Works CEO and Creative Director on Deadlight, and after we stopped recording and started bullshitting he told me that the counter is a bug that will be fixed in a patch. Hopefully he doesn't get pissed off at me for saying that.
Check out the interview here if you're curious. It starts in the middle of the show somewhere (no timecodes handy, sorry). He actually has great stories about how the game was originally in black-and-white before Limbo came along, what Tim Schafer has to do with Deadlight, and more. Raul seems like a really cool, really humble dude.
Check out the interview here if you're curious. It starts in the middle of the show somewhere (no timecodes handy, sorry). He actually has great stories about how the game was originally in black-and-white before Limbo came along, what Tim Schafer has to do with Deadlight, and more. Raul seems like a really cool, really humble dude.
toythatkills
Member
For those freaked out by the "Time Played" counter in the menu, it is NOT accurate. I interviewed Raul Rubio, Tequila Works CEO and Creative Director on Deadlight, and after we stopped recording and started bullshitting he told me that the counter is a bug that will be fixed in a patch. Hopefully he doesn't get pissed off at me for saying that.
People keep saying this but I've seen no evidence of it in my own game. My stages are all around a couple of minutes, up to about five, and they all felt like they were that long. I don't think there's anything wrong with the timer at all aside from it not counting when you die, anything around an hour or so on the leaderboard seems accurate.