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Dear Esther |OT|

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Dynoro

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sn00zer said:
I dont understand the $10 price tag... a half hour content would be something akin to buying a single television episode... not doubting the quality of the levels or anything, but when I can get 10-30hr games for the same price Im hard pressed to find the value in this even purely as an artistic statement

EDIT: noticed this is 2hrs...a bit longer than I thought, either way point still applies
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Would you pay $10 for a 2 hour film?
 
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AEREC

Member
sn00zer said:
I dont understand the $10 price tag... a half hour content would be something akin to buying a single television episode... not doubting the quality of the levels or anything, but when I can get 10-30hr games for the same price Im hard pressed to find the value in this even purely as an artistic statement

EDIT: noticed this is 2hrs...a bit longer than I thought, either way point still applies
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I never get the arguement of paying for perceived time of entertainment.

Software is not Film or TV, they are different mediums with different pricing structures. In relation to the film industry a 90 minute movie is always the same price as a 3 1/2 hour movie.
 
Joe Molotov

Joe Molotov

Member
sn00zer said:
I dont understand the $10 price tag... a half hour content would be something akin to buying a single television episode... not doubting the quality of the levels or anything, but when I can get 10-30hr games for the same price Im hard pressed to find the value in this even purely as an artistic statement

EDIT: noticed this is 2hrs...a bit longer than I thought, either way point still applies
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The Darkness II is 4 hours long and it's $50/60, soo....
 
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sn00zer

Member
I realize my max price for any given game now is $15 (only HL2 games and Portal games are bought day1) so paying $10 for my is a lot for a short game....will wait for the steam sale on this one
 
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Inkwell

Banned
I have to say that I'm very surprised to see all these 8+ scores. I figured at most it would be getting more in the 6-7 range. This combined with the clips from the soundtrack is making me very excited.
 
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Lily

Member
I dont suppose this supports Steam Achievements? still buying it but would be nice if they were included
 
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Betta Lines

Member
Does this game show up with a price on your Steam? Mine just says it unlocks in 1 day, and there's no indication of price and no option to buy...
 
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Stallion Free

Cock Encumbered
kanugo said:
Accordingly to Steam, "This game will unlock in approximately 1 day and 0 hours".
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Never believe that shit. Just as it hits 1 hour it transforms to 3. I wish new games would be set to unlock at the same time as the afternoon deal. Or any consistent time.
 
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John Rabbit

Banned
sn00zer said:
I realize my max price for any given game now is $15 (only HL2 games and Portal games are bought day1) so paying $10 for my is a lot for a short game....will wait for the steam sale on this one
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i'd rather pay $10 for 2 hours that i control and can enjoy in the comfort of my home than $10+ for 2 hours in a cramped theater with chattering assholes.
 
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chiablo

Member
I don't understand how people can make a buying decision on Dear Esther based on game review scores. That's like saying "I'm not going to buy this painting because Snobby Art Critic Magazine only gave it an 80%."

This is not meant to be a game, it's an interactive story. If you are looking for Call of Duty, you're going to be disappointed. I'm picking it up day one because I love this type of story (H.P. Lovecraft is my homey) and I want to give the developer money in support of what they've done.
 
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JaseC

gave away the keys to the kingdom.
I'll probably wait until the Weekend Deal is up before I grab this. Who knows, perhaps I'll need the $10 for Wolf '09!
:(
 
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videogames

Banned
chiablo said:
I don't understand how people can make a buying decision on Dear Esther based on game review scores. That's like saying "I'm not going to buy this painting because Snobby Art Critic Magazine only gave it an 80%."

This is not meant to be a game, it's an interactive story.
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But it's not. Dear Esther is a disjointed experience of walking around and listening. The two never meet in any meaningful way. It's pretty much the game for people who classify Bioshock as low art instead of a mess.
 
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sam27368

Banned
videogames said:
But it's not. Dear Esther is a disjointed experience of walking around and listening. The two never meet in any meaningful way. It's pretty much the game for people who classify Bioshock as low art instead of a mess.
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I lost all respect of your opinion when you when you said Bioshock was a mess.
 
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Zia

Member
videogames said:
But it's not. Dear Esther is a disjointed experience of walking around and listening. The two never meet in any meaningful way. It's pretty much the game for people who classify Bioshock as low art instead of a mess.
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Have you played this new version of Dear Esther? It's not disjointed in the least.
 
Riposte

Riposte

Member
chiablo said:
I don't understand how people can make a buying decision on Dear Esther based on game review scores. That's like saying "I'm not going to buy this painting because Snobby Art Critic Magazine only gave it an 80%."

This is not meant to be a game, it's an interactive story. If you are looking for Call of Duty, you're going to be disappointed. I'm picking it up day one because I love this type of story (H.P. Lovecraft is my homey) and I want to give the developer money in support of what they've done.
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Call of Duty's campaign is also an interactive story. (And more so is something like Deus Ex.)
 
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Zia

Member
videogames said:
Oh okay. Thanks for the info.
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I was curt because your issue seems to be purely formal, not about the disparity between the "game" and its narrative, a complaint that can be made about BioShock because it tries to do so much more mechanically. Dear Esther is an interactive, audiovisual narrative. That's it.
 
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videogames

Banned
Zia said:
I was curt because your issue seems to be purely formal, not about the disparity between the "game" and its narrative, a complaint that can be made about BioShock because it tries to do so much more mechanically. Dear Esther is an interactive, audiovisual narrative. That's it.
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Yeah, this is a pretty good definition.

My response was more about the lack of information about what's changed between the original and the remake.
 
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John Rabbit

Banned
videogames said:
But it's not. Dear Esther is a disjointed experience of walking around and listening. The two never meet in any meaningful way. It's pretty much the game for people who classify Bioshock as low art instead of a mess.
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is this crucial to a good story? i haven't played the original mod but i plan to play the remake so without additional context that i don't want to know yet, your point doesn't make a great deal of sense. plenty of great stories are told wherein two principal characters never actually meet.

also, please refrain from divulging any further points about the story/plot. i doubt the experience is ruined much from your comment, but now i'm going in knowing at least that much and it will color my expectations.
 
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sam27368

Banned
It's interesting, a lot of the polarised reviews are still recommending to get it, it seems like if it strikes a chord with you it'll be a big one.
 
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Zoibie

Member
I'm not sure if my fossil of a PC will be able to play this but I'm probably going to pick this up. Was really taken with the latest trailer they put out.
 
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faceless007

Member
Rabbitwork said:
is this crucial to a good story? i haven't played the original mod but i plan to play the remake so without additional context that i don't want to know yet, your point doesn't make a great deal of sense. plenty of great stories are told wherein two principal characters never actually meet.

also, please refrain from divulging any further points about the story/plot. i doubt the experience is ruined much from your comment, but now i'm going in knowing at least that much and it will color my expectations.
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I could be wrong, but the way I read his comment is that "walking around" and "listening" never meet in any meaningful way.

Though having played the original, I don't really know what that means. Experiencing the story and exploring the world are intrinsically linked mechanics to me; I don't know how he thinks they're separated.
 
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