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[Mithos]

Just to add something other then my first post..

I have only 1 PS5 game that is a paid game (Stellar Blade Physical Disc) all other games are PS4** games or F2P PS5 games.

** Some PS4 games "might" have PS5 awareness patch to boost performance/resolutions, but is not a pure PS5 title.

 

[Lagspike_exe]

Does anyone have data on MTX spending for these users? I guess Sony would be happy if they were spending MTX money instead.

 

[FUBARx89]

15 million people waiting for Sony to put out a banger of a "next gen" game that isn't a remaster or a remake. Clearly.

/s

 

[Generic]

Imaging buying a PS5 just for play Fortnite...

What a brainrot generation.

Can't blame then, it's the best PS5 game.

 

[Sanepar]

How many of them are in warehouses / store shelves?

Do u know free games? Like one called Fortnite?

 

[Generic]

cant they just play fortnite on ps4?

It runs poorly.

 

[LordOcidax]

Does anyone have data on MTX spending for these users? I guess Sony would be happy if they were spending MTX money instead.

I think the user spending is at record high for Sony. This data just shows how important are the F2P games for the industry.

 

[leo-j]

Yup, I have people who stopping playing FINAL FANTASY, DEATH STRANDING likes, AND basically anything single player and are just playing

WARZONE F2P
APEX F2P
ZZZ F2P
Honkai F2P
Heck even Terra lol

F2P is killing console game sales imo.

 

[neocycle]

They play f2p games and spend money on that.

 

[StereoVsn]

Fortnite, Genshin, Apex, CoD Warzone (isn't BR F2P?), and so on.

People could just play these F2P titles and spend would be on MTX and not games. It is a crying shame that this happens, but it is what it is.

 

[Magic Carpet]

You only buy PlayStation games?

I've only bought the exclusives on Sony consoles. Seems those days are over.
In the future I will be waiting to see the Sony games on PC.

Edit-I've been slowly rebuying the Sony games I want on PC.

 

[Killjoy-NL]

Look at the top trending games every month. Games like Roblox, Fortnite and Apex Legends. My daughter is 14. A lot of her friends, this is all they play.

It's because they're live service games. Continuous content and f2p, with the occasional paid entry at lower pricepoint.

As much as Gaf hates it, the times are changing.

 

[The_hunter]

PS5 sales from Atsro's playroom

 

[consoul]

According to the last Sony financial report around 15 Million of PS5 owners has never purchased a game.

Really? I read the report and it doesn't say that.

This article is written by buffoons.

 

[jm89]

What part in the doc did they use to get that figure?

 

[Mortisfacio]

It's because they're live service games. Continuous content and f2p, with the occasional paid entry at lower pricepoint.

As much as Gaf hates it, the times are changing.

Yup. I've asked the question to her friends and my nieces/nephews. The recurring theme is their parents are willing to buy them a console for Christmas or birthday, but outside of Christmas or Birthday, their parents won't buy them games. So outside of 2 days a year to get new games, they only have live service f2p games. Then those whose parents will buy them new games, like myself, my daughter just wants to play Roblox and Fortnite because that's what her friends play. She only plays games outside of those, like R.E.P.O., Phasmophobia, Lethal Company, etc. when she plays with me and my son.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

Xbox Ex-owners?

 

[dragonyeuw]

No Astrobot?

Lol actually I forgot I bought Final Fantasy Vii intergrade and Silent Hill 2 earlier this year but they're still in their wrapping.

I'll get to Astrobot at some point. Honestly Playstation( and consoles in general) have taken a backseat to PC/Steam as far as how much time I spend in each ecosystem.

 

[PSFore]

It's not surprising if people are buying less games. Even with non-free-to-play games, studios are waiting longer for sequels than they used to. And selling DLC and other content in the meantime. In some cases, the expansions are pricey enough with enough changes to warrant calling them sales of new games, but I don't think they are recorded as such.

 

[onQ123]

Imaging buying a PS5 just for play Fortnite...

What a brainrot generation.

I never played Fortnite but by the looks of all the updates & live events it seems like a smarter choice than buying games that only last you a few months.

 

[HerjansEagleFeeder]

That's a lot. Makes you wonder how these numbers look historically and the different platforms each gen compared.

 

[Topher]

According to the last Sony financial report around 15 Million of PS5 owners has never purchased a game.

"Of course, while the total figure is round and resounding, there is one detail that stands out: of the 80 million consoles sold, less than 15 million correspond to hardware for which no game has been purchased"

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www.3djuegos.com

https://www.sony.com/en/SonyInfo/IR/library/presen/er/pdf/25q1_supplement.pdf#nnn

How is this site coming to this conclusion? I see they say "Curiously, of the entire console fleet, the ratio of PS5 users who don't even buy games is 0.175 , which corresponds, based on the calculations, to 14 million consoles in total." but I can't find any references to this in the document linked to.

That raito doesn't even make sense to me. What is the 0.175 referring to?

This is bullshit. The author is taking 65.9 million from the number sold in Q1 alone and using that number against the number of PS5 sold the entire generation.

 

[Woopah]

This is bullshit. The author is taking 65.9 million from the number sold in Q1 alone and using that number against the number of PS5 sold the entire generations.

That's the only way I can see them getting 15 million as a number. But how could anyone be so idiotic?

 

[nial]

LordOcidax

 

[Giallo Corsa]

This is a video game news…

Not when it's coming from your (repeatedly) warring, baiting and insufferable ass.

Easily one of the most cancerous posters in here my guy.

 

[Boss Mog]

I'm sure that there's plenty of peeps who are fine just playing PS+ Extra games.

 

[Topher]

That's the only way I can see them getting 15 million as a number. But how could anyone be so idiotic?

Yep. The author knew what he was doing. That's why he didn't explain how he came to this conclusion.

 

[Magister]

What did you expect? Gamer cred is at all time low.

 

[reinking]

Yep. The author knew what he was doing. That's why he didn't explain how he came to this conclusion.

Glad you were willing to do the work. I glanced through and didn't see it. I wasn't going to invest much time into it since I do not doubt there are people buying consoles for F2P titles.

 

[Dalbajobas]

So whats the conclusion? 20% of ps5 owners aren't enticed by the list of available ps5 exclusives?

 

[6502]

Do u know free games? Like one called Fortnite?

Yes but I don't get people buying spending 4/500 on a box to only play a free game, may aswell stay put on old boxes / pc.

You'd expect at least 1 Fifa or similar muck to be bought.

 

[Woopah]

So whats the conclusion? 20% of ps5 owners aren't enticed by the list of available ps5 exclusives?

The conclusion is that the author compared the lifetime sales of PS5 to the number of PS5/PS4 game sold in the last three months. So it is utter nonsense.

 

[Topher]

Glad you were willing to do the work. I glanced through and didn't see it. I wasn't going to invest much time into it since I do not doubt there are people buying consoles for F2P titles.

I just pulled the softare sold image from the Sony financials thread.

Z

Business Sales-Age  Thread 'Sony Q1 FY2025 - LTD: PS5 80.2M, G&NS sales up by 8% YoY, PS5 HW 2.5M (+4.17% YoY), OI up by 127% YoY; Software sales at 65.9M (+23% YoY)'

Thursday at 4:14 AM

FY2025 Q1 Earnings Announcement

IR Library: Earnings Releases

SIE Business Data & Sales


1.FY2025 Q1

2. LTD (June 25)

Hardware PS5 80.2 M (PS4 82.3 M, June 2018)

MAU 123 M



Operating Income

PS5 ¥1.7T

PS4 ¥980B

PS1 ¥378B

PS2 ¥264B

PS3 -¥447B



Adjusted for inflation (2024)

PS5 ¥1.7T

PS4 ¥1.07T

PS1 ¥419B

PS2 ¥299B

PS3 -¥508B



Inflation Calculator –...

• zedinen
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• Forum: Gaming Discussion

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[Saber]

I don't remember the last time I bought a Sony game.
I buy 3rd party games and thats pretty much how my PS5 gonna be.

 

[reinking]

Yes but I don't get people buying spending 4/500 on a box to only play a free game, may aswell stay put on old boxes / pc.

You'd expect at least 1 Fifa or similar muck to be bought.

There are people that spend $1000+ to upgrade their PC for games like WOW. Why would a gamer that plays these types of games not want the best experience for the game they play? I'm not even going to think about the ones that drop that kind of money for V-Bucks without much thought.

 

[reinking]

I just pulled the softare sold image from the Sony financials thread.

Z

Business Sales-Age  Thread 'Sony Q1 FY2025 - LTD: PS5 80.2M, G&NS sales up by 8% YoY, PS5 HW 2.5M (+4.17% YoY), OI up by 127% YoY; Software sales at 65.9M (+23% YoY)'

Thursday at 4:14 AM

FY2025 Q1 Earnings Announcement

IR Library: Earnings Releases

SIE Business Data & Sales


1.FY2025 Q1

2. LTD (June 25)

Hardware PS5 80.2 M (PS4 82.3 M, June 2018)

MAU 123 M



Operating Income

PS5 ¥1.7T

PS4 ¥980B

PS1 ¥378B

PS2 ¥264B

PS3 -¥447B



Adjusted for inflation (2024)

PS5 ¥1.7T

PS4 ¥1.07T

PS1 ¥419B

PS2 ¥299B

PS3 -¥508B



Inflation Calculator –...

• zedinen
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• Forum: Gaming Discussion

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I did look at that when I first saw this thread and thought that it was a wash regardless of how many were "not buying" games since plenty more are.

 

[PlayStaytion]

Not every wife is comfortable with our shit.