Professor Beef
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I do love seeing people make fun of Tuna Meltz.
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December Wrasslin' |OT| Dreaming of a Vanilla Christmas
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BewareTheBatsie
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La Luchadora seems to be the Jane Ellsworth jobber from a few weeks ago. I suppose we just wait to see if they intend for her to be a character or if she's just filling in for the role and they'll reveal it's Mickie or Eva.
Also from the whole infamous Summerslam 2010 thing is it that Vince booked Team Cena to go over but Cena wanted the ridiculous comeback from the DDT on the concrete which really hammered in how fucking dumb the thing was or Vince wanted the Nexus to win but Cena used his creative power to give himself the win?
Also from the whole infamous Summerslam 2010 thing is it that Vince booked Team Cena to go over but Cena wanted the ridiculous comeback from the DDT on the concrete which really hammered in how fucking dumb the thing was or Vince wanted the Nexus to win but Cena used his creative power to give himself the win?
TheStruggler
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AJ sold that super kick like a champ, jesus can he sell well. Also corbin with the fuck up and not breaking the count, good thing AJ was paying attention
I'm not up to date with everyone's comings and goings. To be honest, I had to look up Wade Barrett and am only mildly familiar with Ryback and Sandow.
You're throwing junk at the wall to see what will stick. And, honestly, I don't see in either's case where their departure had anything to do with John Cena. Do you imagine if they were somehow granted victories over Cena they would now be title holders? Or even still in WWE? Do you imagine some superstardom for these wrestlers?
Sweeney Tom
Banned
The DDT comeback was Cena's idea entirely, and the story goes he apologized for it when he went backstage because he almost immediately after the act happened to conclusion realized it was fucking stupid
serenewarfare
Banned
I don't think Cena is some master politician, but it's pretty convenient he only came to that conclusion AFTER it happened.
BewareTheBatsie
Member
Rusev is still the worst case of a Cena burial. He could have been a fucking star if he not only won but made Cena tap with the Accolade.
At least the Shield were successful enough to have the power (and Triple H's protection) to refuse to do any jobbing for basically the entirety of their run.
Sounds about right. It really was a dumb thing to do. Just beating them clean would have been bad but taking a move that would kill a normal man and coming back to win without a hassle was worse.
At least the Shield were successful enough to have the power (and Triple H's protection) to refuse to do any jobbing for basically the entirety of their run.
sf2fanatic
Member
So was La Luchadora tonight
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Natalya
AJ covers up so many flaws for others its ridiculous.
serenewarfare
Banned
No. Hair color was wrong.
SallyIsNow
Banned
I gotta go with Bray. Dude was white fucking hot. And after Cena got done with him, he had a shitty feud with Jericho and then off TV for 2 months.
Professor Beef
Banned
Ryback's story about Triple H back when Ryback was getting surgeries is just...*sigh* I can't believe I'm saying this in 2016, but...
...fuck Triple H.
Also, Ryback wasn't buried by Cena, he was put into a no-win situation by Creative thanks to CM Punk's winning streak and his own winning streak.
...fuck Triple H.
Also, Ryback wasn't buried by Cena, he was put into a no-win situation by Creative thanks to CM Punk's winning streak and his own winning streak.
sf2fanatic
Member
The grunt when she tossed Becky to the ring post sounded like her
The Silver
Member
I'll always thank Cena for burying Riley's career, thanks Cena.
Cena didn't bury rusev, I doubt that any point in his career did Vince think that he would be a main eventer. I mean his gimmick was a evil foreign in 2015.
BewareTheBatsie
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It seems to be the jobber Alexa beat up a couple weeks ago. Although she might just be filling the role in and it could be revealed to be Mickie or something after Becky wins the belt back.
serenewarfare
Banned
Riley buried his own career by being a mark for himself.
BewareTheBatsie
Member
Alex Riley mistaking a Push Rage sign a fan made as a joke over his CAW for being something for him will never not be funny and also a bit sad.
Granted the engagement being leaked killed Vince's chances of ever giving him a proper world title push.
I dunno. Rusev went from an undefeated monster pre-Cena to being in a love square angle post-Cena.
Granted the engagement being leaked killed Vince's chances of ever giving him a proper world title push.
He built to lose to Cena, at no point did Cena politic his way into winning.
serenewarfare
Banned
My favorite Riley memory is when I worked NXT and he for some odd reason didn't use the men's locker room to change into his gear, but came into the promo room and hid behind a set of prop lockers and changed.
SallyIsNow
Banned
The only good thing about Alex Riley is the whole 'Push Rage' thing. I guess Alex got the last laugh tho, cause the SBF are pretty much done-so.
Hidden One
Member
Damn...
Also peep these shoots..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2N2M7kFqm3Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KINNRGoVj8
UberTag
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What plans are "set for Mania" according to Meltzer aside of the obvious build for Seth vs. Triple H?
Sounds like he has a fake foot like Kerry Von Erich.
Plans Vs Change is locked in
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I love it when people argue with the weasel phrase "let's be honest" as though everyone knows the truth of said person's position as though all who oppose them are being intentionally deceitful (just to besmirch the name of poor John Cena).
PHOENIXZERO
Member
Deonna Purrazzo? She's been used a few times in NXT too, debuting in Stardom next month.
Yeah she looks like she fit the bill.
serenewarfare
Banned
The only things that seem 100% set right now (that we know of) are Seth vs. Triple H and Goldberg vs. Brock.
Rock might be the best promo ever.
There's still absolutely no chance he could ever convince any crowd, no less a WM crowd, to cheer Roman over him.
Professor Beef
Banned
Here's a random shoot: Kung-Fu Panda is a damn good trilogy, and is FULL of workers.
UberTag
Member
Would they seriously do Goldberg vs. Brock AGAIN?!?
Do we really need to rehash the 30-second Survivor Series match?
Seems like a waste of Brock's time. (Which, naturally, means he loves the idea. Getting a Mania payday for a nothing match is what he loves the most.)
Looking strong trumps everything when it comes to getting pushed. Even selling merch is secondary.
serenewarfare
Banned
The 30 second match was always meant to setup a WM match. It was done that way to give Brock a storyline reason to want a rematch, and at the Rumble we'll see Brock give Goldberg a storyline reason to want another match with him.
The WM match will presumably be what the first match was going to be until Goldberg got over, which is a normal length match with Brock going over.
It all boils down to the fact that Vince (and others) think he's the guy. And they will sooner run him into the ground and ruin him forever than admit they are wrong and turn him heel. There are few things Vince dislikes more than admitting a mistake. It's why for a long time he has been hesitant to re-sign guys he let go before, because re-signing them is an admission that they were wrong to cut them in the first place.
BewareTheBatsie
Member
Kung Fu Panda is a GOAT movie.
I thought it had some cool spots but as a match, yeah, it was sort of all over the place. I hope they don't have them fight each other until the rumble, because they fear hitting Charlotte-Sasha levels of repetitiveness (although they will hopefully not have as many title changes) and I say this as someone who likes the feud.
The Silver
Member
Ryback hates marks, give that man a gaf account and then ban him
Hopefully the La Luchadora thing helps keep the feud fresh. If nothing else, it gives Becky something else to do.
giancarlo123x
Banned
I'm sure it means nothing, didn't Samoa Joe injure Tyson before a main event taping? Probably just want to give them match ups with more experienced people.
Also yesterday's main event was great,too bad gaf went down during the discussion. I will watch 205 later since it sounds like it was pretty good.
Because they are all inept.
And Shane McMahon wrestling. In 2016. His best stuff will always be vs. Angle but that was because Kirk was able to move around like a normal human being. These fights against Oldtaker and Icancareless Brock are statues for him and look overly silly.
YesManKablaam
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In a way I can't blame Cena for too much. Disregarding any amount of politicking he may do, it's clear that Vince and Creative are high on him and want him to have these big victories as he's still a draw, and I doubt there's anyone that'd turn down opportunities to look like the best fucking guy in the world. Yup, I was annoyed by his WM wins over Bray and Rusev, but I imagine if I was in that position and was presented with continuous opportunities to build my brand and be on top, I'd take them.
There is a line though, and too often I've been really annoyed by just how Cena beats people. He rarely if ever sells injury or even basic physical harm, and when he does win it's by outright embarassing his opponent over successive matches, making them look like a total laughing stock. Great for him, takes a lot of momentum from whoever he's feuding with.
I browse this thread more than I post, but I do like the trend of people saying they're going to shoot, so I'm going to try and offer my own:
Cena has been a terrible fucking promo for the vast majority of his career. This revisionist history bullshit over the last few years (mainly since his US Title run) is laughable, as if people can't recall the garbage he would regularly spew in the decade preceding. The fact it's taken, what, 14 years to hone an ability to consistently work a crowd doesn't place him in the best of lights. Shining example of Cena's quality over the years:
Terrific mic work. What a presence. Amazing how well he can work a crowd.
(He has been a lot of fun lately. Loved him in Trainwreck)
There is a line though, and too often I've been really annoyed by just how Cena beats people. He rarely if ever sells injury or even basic physical harm, and when he does win it's by outright embarassing his opponent over successive matches, making them look like a total laughing stock. Great for him, takes a lot of momentum from whoever he's feuding with.
I browse this thread more than I post, but I do like the trend of people saying they're going to shoot, so I'm going to try and offer my own:
Cena has been a terrible fucking promo for the vast majority of his career. This revisionist history bullshit over the last few years (mainly since his US Title run) is laughable, as if people can't recall the garbage he would regularly spew in the decade preceding. The fact it's taken, what, 14 years to hone an ability to consistently work a crowd doesn't place him in the best of lights. Shining example of Cena's quality over the years:
Terrific mic work. What a presence. Amazing how well he can work a crowd.
(He has been a lot of fun lately. Loved him in Trainwreck)
giancarlo123x
Banned
I still find it mind-blowing how Cena doesn't have a victory on styles yet, I know he will get it by Mania but it would be awesome if he can't do it till his last match before he goes part time.
giancarlo123x
Banned
Smackdown needs only 3 sets of call ups to make the entire show feel fresh with new match ups.
-The revival should come out next next week and take the titles from AA and have them chase it till wrestlemania.
-Tye Dillenger to the intercontinental scene to take on Miz.
-Samoa Joe to get in the way of Cena from reclaiming the title.
There are enough women to chase the title right now and with Mickie James coming soon it will help.
-The revival should come out next next week and take the titles from AA and have them chase it till wrestlemania.
-Tye Dillenger to the intercontinental scene to take on Miz.
-Samoa Joe to get in the way of Cena from reclaiming the title.
There are enough women to chase the title right now and with Mickie James coming soon it will help.
Sir_Crocodile
Member
Man, Corbin really botched that pin breakup. Good thing styles is so good and noticed. And JBL did well selling it while everyone else (including Dunn) were flapping around trying to pretend it didn't happen.