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It's odd because it could be corrected with the right in house trainers. Sarah Del Rey proves that on the woman's side turning someone like Sasha Banks and Charlotte in world class female wrestlers.

I'd say there's only so much the trainers can do, you just aren't going to be able to replicate a decade plus worth of experience travelling around the world and wrestling opponents with vastly different styles and training.

Itami really needs to start doing something to stand out, the war paint works for Balor but Itami either needs a unique move or quote or anything as the hook.

I fear that the longer Itami struggles to stand out, the more likely they are to introduce more and more stereotypical elements to his character.
 

Kaladin

Member
I'd say there's only so much the trainers can do, you just aren't going to be able to replicate a decade plus worth of experience travelling around the world and wrestling opponents with vastly different styles and training.

It would be a vast improvement though. Get someone who can bring that kind of experience to the training. Sarah Del Rey obviously brings a lot to the table for the women of NXT. She turns people you've never heard of into wrestlers who could be stars on any indie program.
 

strobogo

Banned
The crowd went crazy when they teased.....

That spot would have had zero reaction on Raw. It worked in NXT because the fans know about Kenta and the G2S. On Raw, they wouldn't have had a clue what was going on and likely would have shit all over Devitt's paint stuff as well. The NXT crowd and a general Raw crowd are completely different.

"I. Kick. Haaaaaaard!"

That's what he SHOULD have been from the start. You know what got Tajiri super over despite zero English? Physical charisma and kicking the fuck out of people. That's what he needs. Luckily, he seems to be starting to not hold back so much on his strikes in the past couple of shows.
 

Hasney

Member
Excellent NXT PPV, and Azz Bizz updates

Thursday is great

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Alucard

Banned
That spot would have had zero reaction on Raw. It worked in NXT because the fans know about Kenta and the G2S. On Raw, they wouldn't have had a clue what was going on and likely would have shit all over Devitt's paint stuff as well. The NXT crowd and a general Raw crowd are completely different.

That's what he SHOULD have been from the start. You know what got Tajiri super over despite zero English? Physical charisma and kicking the fuck out of people. That's what he needs. Luckily, he seems to be starting to not hold back so much on his strikes in the past couple of shows.

Very true about Tajiri. I wonder what kind of "character" Itami is going to be, though. Heck, same with Balor.
 

Xater

Member
Even the swerve at the end was well done. Owens' attack looked brutal. The having Regal coming out angrily as the GM was perfect.

Man why can't the main shows be this well booked with the talent they have?
 

Alucard

Banned
Even the swerve at the end was well done. Owens' attack looked brutal. The having Regal coming out angrily as the GM was perfect.

Man why can't the main shows be this well booked with the talent they have?

What if...What if Kevin Owens is the next Rock/Austin/Bryan in terms of crowd reactions on the main roster?

What if Kevin F'N Owens saves the WWE?!
 

Alucard

Banned
I'm cool with a pop-up powerbomb being Owens' finisher. Still goes with his character.

Gotta find a way to watch this NXT show now.
 

Alucard

Banned
Official announcement from ROH
http://www.rohwrestling.com/news/alberto-el-patron-coming-roh-2015

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Formerly known in WWE as Alberto Del Rio, Alberto El Patron is a former 4 time World Champion in World Wrestling Entertainment and the current AAA Heavyweight Champion in Mexico. Known for his brash demeanor, this Mexican aristocrat brings an attitude and desire to prove his greatness to Ring of Honor but how will that attitude mesh with the ROH stars?

One thing that is certain is Alberto’s credentials. A celebrated amateur wrestler in Mexico, Alberto has won numerous amateur championships and tournaments. In addition to his amateur accolades, Alberto has won numerous world championships in his home country of Mexico, including the CMLL Heavyweight Championship. But would you expect anything less given his bloodlines? Alberto is the son of legendary luchador Dos Caras and nephew of Mil Mascaras, continuing one of Mexico’s greatest wrestling legacies.

Upon signing with ROH, Alberto has requested that Ring of Honor matchmaker Nigel McGuinness challenge him with the very best that ROH has to offer, and many of the stars in Ring of Honor have already started making phone calls to Nigel to take on El Patron.

"Ring of Honor has been doing fantastic things. There’s a lot of excitement surrounding this company and I look forward to competing against the best of the best in ROH in 2015,” says Alberto El Patron.

Could we see him face ROH World Champion Jay Briscoe? Adam Cole? AJ Styles? ROH World Television Champion Jay Lethal? Matt Sydal? Roderick Strong? The list of world class match-ups is endless!

Who would you like to see him face? Tweet us at @RingofHonor and use the hashtag #AlbertoROH

Ring of Honor fans will FIRST be able to see Alberto El Patron on the following dates:

•Saturday January 3, 2015 Nashville, TN, Nashville Fairgrounds - ROH Television Taping!
For tickets click HERE

•Friday January 30, 2015 Dearborn, MI, Ford Community Center
For tickets click HERE

•Saturday January 31, 2015 Dayton, OH, Montgomery County Fairgrounds
For tickets click HERE

•Sunday March 1, 2015 Las Vegas Nevada, Orleans Hotel & Casino for the 13th Anniversary Pay-Per-View!
For tickets click HERE

It’s been said that Alberto wants to show that he is one of the best in the world between the ropes, and he will certainly have every opportunity to prove that in Ring of Honor.

There's a quick hype vid too:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhEORSOBOwM

Not much they can show at this point, but I'm excited. I have to reiterate how perfectly his style fits ROH.
 

Alucard

Banned
Well if Kevin Owens still dresses like me on a lazy Sunday, then the answer is most definitely no.

The old adage that "If you dress like you're a member of the crowd, you're going to become one of the crowd" no longer applies. People want relatable champions ala Punk and Bryan.
 

Rockandrollclown

lookwhatyou'vedone
(R)Evolution was great. I was shocked to see a 30 minute match for the women's title. Were current divas putting on matches like this when coming up through NXT or is this a recent development. Great matches all around, but I definitely was surprised to see a legit women's match.
 

Alucard

Banned
Why do you wear Kevin Owens merch on a lazy Sunday?

EDIT: I'm surprised ROH is allowed to use that render

Yeah, I was wondering how they were able to get that onto their event poster too. We'll see if there's any blowback. For now, I'm pumped to see him in an ROH ring, and I hope he debuts on the very first episode, unlike AJ Styles...we had to wait like 4 weeks before seeing his match with Roderick Strong at the start of 2014.
 

bjork

Member
I can't even answer one question in the nominations unless I put shit from the 1990s that I happened to watch this year. Best match: Bull Nakano v Aja Kong in like 1990, etc.

I long for the day when WWE finally gets rid of fucking authority figures.

I still say the only way it ends is a Vince amnesia angle where he thinks it's 1985 and they reboot the entire company, as his sort of send-off angle when he finally leaves TV. Let Cena be the Jack Tunney that only appears in person at the Rumble to wish everyone luck, and shots from his office all other times.

Pal if you can get mods to care about cyberbullying in the wrestling thread I'll owe you one

I got them to care about racism, so it could happen.
 

Gonzalez

Banned
That turn was really good. No stupid 7 minute beat down that kills the crowd. Just heel turn, apron power bomb, angry authority figure, and end of show. All under two minutes. That's something WCW would have done during the Nitro days. Maybe with Tony yelling "WHAT THE HELL?".
 

Hasney

Member
That turn was really good. No stupid 7 minute beat down that kills the crowd. Just heel turn, apron power bomb, angry authority figure, and end of show. All under two minutes. That's something WCW would have done during the Nitro days. Maybe with Tony yelling "WHAT THE HELL?".

Yup and the fact that the commentary team had already signed off and didn't talk over it too was fantastic.

It feels great that a quick story like that happened as well straight after the long story of Sami winning the big one.. Thought it was going to be a slow burn with all the hugging and then they'll feud down the line, but NOPE. APRON POWERBOMB.
 

bjork

Member
http://cdn.sheknows.com/articles/2014/03/DW_the_wink.gif

I don't know if it was me specifically, but I'll take credit for it. Most of the other shit that goes on in here, work your shoot into a work mark or whatever and I don't care. That one needed addressed. You're welcome.
 

Hasney

Member
I don't know if it was me specifically, but I'll take credit for it. Most of the other shit that goes on in here, work your shoot into a work mark or whatever and I don't care. That one needed addressed. You're welcome.

Damn right. That was an approving wink by The Rock for snitching, I'm sure.
 

bjork

Member
Damn right. That was an approving wink by The Rock for snitching, I'm sure.

But I don't like the Rock. I automatically feed his cards to other guys if I pull him in supercard. I also get really mad when his card beats my guys. Him and mysterio.

Also how did that playboy top 25 sexiest lady wrasslers list not have lita? sons of bitches.
 

Hasney

Member
But I don't like the Rock. I automatically feed his cards to other guys if I pull him in supercard. I also get really mad when his card beats my guys. Him and mysterio.

Also how did that playboy top 25 sexiest lady wrasslers list not have lita? sons of bitches.

Fine, jeeze. Have everyones favourite currently active Raw superstar and co-person of the year winking at you instead.

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Alucard

Banned
I wrote a quick opinion piece on Alberto El Patron signing with ROH:
http://www.wrestleenigma.com/roh-ne...wrestling-fans-let-the-dream-matches-commence

Ring of Honor has announced that Alberto El Patron, aka Alberto Del Rio of WWE fame, has signed a contract with the company. For the time being, he is scheduled for four dates, including the March 1st 13th Anniversary PPV from Las Vegas.

This news has come as a (pleasant) shock to this fan, as El Patron was rumored to be in talks with TNA and Lucha Underground. He can likely still pursue something with those companies, but for now, Ring of Honor fans have a lot to be excited about.

So, why the excitement?

First off, El Patron's stiff submission-based style fits perfectly in the ROH ring. His hard kicks, stiff strikes, and cross armbreaker submission are part of a moveset that will complement any number of Ring of Honor talents. He could mesh well with wrestlers who possess similar war crates and a penchant for hard-nosed matches, including Kyle O'Reilly and Tommaso Ciampa. In terms of dream matches, I'm sure fans will be clamoring for El Patron vs. AJ Styles or Adam Cole, and I'd be surprised if we didn't get one or both of those matches before his run with the company is over.

Second of all, El Patron has a huge chip on his shoulder right now. After feeling slighted by the WWE, and showing a ton of charisma and personality in a Wrestle Talk TV shoot interview about his experiences there, the former World Heavyweight Champion likely feels he has a lot to prove. Much like AJ Styles when he left TNA, Patron probably has some pent-up rage for how he was used in the WWE, and he is anxious to show the world just how talented he is. If the ROH story above is to be believed, he has asked to face the best the company has to offer. A man with that kind of hunger is going to lay it all out for everyone to see why he’s valuable. This move to ROH could be the start of a personal in-ring renaissance for Patron.

Finally, this move ensures that Ring of Honor’s 2015 will kick off with a bang. They managed to do it in 2014 with AJ Styles, and they’re doing it again with El Patron. This time around though, they’ll actually have both guys at a televised PPV in March, which will likely generate a few more buys than their solid 2014 offerings. With acquisitions like these, Ring of Honor is creating a bigger imprint on North American pro wrestling than they have in years.

A suitable style, a slew of potential dream matches, and a man with something to prove to himself and the entire pro wrestling world. All of these things combined ensure that Alberto El Patron will leave his mark on Ring of Honor and wrestling fans in 2015.
 

Xater

Member
Some quotes from the NXT Show feedback F4W got. Made me go go hmm...

Strongly Dislike the Ascension, quite bland and boring They will fit in well on the main roster, which is not a compliment.

Charlotte vs. Sasha Banks - What's sad is that when these girls get called up we'll never see anything this epic from them again. Shame.

Both sadly very true statements.
 
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Deleted member 47027

Unconfirmed Member
Quick question about WrassleGAF nominees. NXT... does that fall under WWE or not? I'm presuming so, but I need to know.

Yes, except in Promotion of the Year, since it's a separate 'fed' so to speak.
 
Dusty was the mind behind The Shockmaster. I mean, not to condemn someone for one notoriously bad idea, seeing as Vince came up with the Gobbledygooker, but let's not pretend Dusty is a booking savant. I agree that he's a better entertainer than a booker. He has a booking gimmick named after him due to overuse, for chrissakes.
 

Fox318

Member
Dusty was the mind behind The Shockmaster. I mean, not to condemn someone for one notoriously bad idea, seeing as Vince came up with the Gobbledygooker, but let's not pretend Dusty is a booking savant. I agree that he's a better entertainer than a booker. He has a booking gimmick named after him due to overuse, for chrissakes.
Dusty just told somebody to get a mask like the one the guys wear in that star wars movie.

He didn't think that somebody would actually dress him like that. That's why they had to have somebody else voice him.
 

strobogo

Banned
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Best of WWE 2014 Part 6



I have been sitting on this for a week and a half waiting for Takeover.



  • Dean Ambrose vs Seth Rollins HIAC 2014
  • Randy Orton vs Seth Rollins Raw 11/3/14
  • Sami Zayn vs Adrian Neville NXT Championship NXT 11/13/14
  • Dean Ambrose vs Bray Wyatt Survivor Series 2014
  • Team Authority vs Team Cena Survivor Series 2014
  • Charlotte vs Sasha Banks NXT Women's Championship NXT Takeover : R Evolution
  • Sami Zayn vs Adrian Neville NXT Championship NXT Takeover: R Evolution



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In isolation, it has been a really great year for wrestling from pretty much everywhere you look. There are a lot of words about why and how things like Sami and Bryan's big wins this year are what makes wrestling dope.


My top 5 WWE matches for 2014:


  1. Daniel Bryan vs HHH Wrestlemania 30
  2. Sami Zayn vs Adrian Neville NXT Takeover R Evolution
  3. Daniel Bryan vs Bray Wyatt Royal Rumble
  4. Sami Zayn vs Cesaro NXT Arrival
  5. Team Cena vs Team Authority Survivor Series

Honorable mentions go out to Charlotte vs Nattie/Sasha, Sayn/Kidd/Neville/Breeze, Shield vs Evolution elimination match. Really, the middle 3 are almost interchangeable to me, but the climax of Sami's angle and the post match stuff bump it ahead.
 
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