jordan0386
Member
lol, now everybody is back on board.
Vince always wins in the end.
Vince always wins in the end.
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December Wrasslin' |OT| PUT A Z-PAK ON THE THREAD, PAL. YOU'RE WORKING TONIGHT
Terrabyte20xx
Junior Wrestlemania XXX Champion
So I may have said it Jokingly, but seriously, how long until there actually is a twitter campaign attempt?
Jimmy King
Member
What was better Cabana/Punk podcast or Austin/McMahon podcast?
Officerrob
Banned
listening to vince talk about the current roster was depressing as fuck, he really doesn't get it
He basically shit on everyone from the last decade not named Cena
slightconfuse
Banned
listening to vince talk about the current roster was depressing as fuck, he really doesn't get it
SWISS just cant get over!!
What did he say?listening to vince talk about the current roster was depressing as fuck, he really doesn't get it
Alex Anderson
Member
I loved Vince's reaction when Steve suggested people hit him up on Twitter, his expression was like "I haven't used that shit for a minute in my life."
D
Deleted member 47027
Unconfirmed Member
What was better Cabana/Punk podcast or Austin/McMahon podcast?
Austin's a far better interviewer. It's like asking who would win - just Punk or Austin AND McMahon together.
A glimpse into what makes Vince Vince is fascinating, moreso than dirt and staph infections.
ReturnOfTheRAT
Member
lol, now everybody is back on board.
Vince always wins in the end.
wat? I'm done with the network at the end of December.
Officerrob
Banned
Vince must be pretty deaf because the fans told him they wanted Cesaro.
The fans basically had to fuck Vince with a Daniel Bryan shaped dildo every Monday for months to get him to notice
He basically shit on everyone from the last decade not named Cena
...is he that wrong? Orton could have been there but had that huge derailment. D-bry without that injury would be there. Who else that isn't dead or retired?
What did he say?
he sad cesaro couldn't get over because "he's swiss? i dunno" and said the entire roster outside of cena lacks ambition
Jimmy King
Member
Austin's a far better interviewer. It's like asking who would win - just Punk or Austin AND McMahon together.
A glimpse into what makes Vince Vince is fascinating, moreso than dirt and staph infections.
I do find it hilarious how little traction that Punk story gained, mostly because they decided to release it on a holiday and now you add that with this McMahon podcast and people have already moved on.
HeisenbergLannister
Member
Fire every idiot on the booking team right now, including Steph, and put Austin, Heyman and J.R. on the booking team.
Dork Knight
Member
I felt so bad for Cesaro hearing Vince say he doesn't have it. How shitty must that be hearing that come from Vince's out-of-touch mouth? He can either let that bring him down or use that as a motivator to up his game and prove Vince wrong. I hope it's the latter as I honestly feel Cesaro has it but he just needs an opportunity to shine, just like how Stone Cold talks about how he started with the shitty Ringmaster gimmick but started to shine when give the chance.
D
Deleted member 47027
Unconfirmed Member
I felt so bad for Cesaro hearing Vince say he doesn't have it. How shitty must that be hearing that come from Vince's out-of-touch mouth? He can either let that bring him down or use that as a motivator to up his game and prove Vince wrong. I hope it's the latter as I honestly feel Cesaro has it but he just needs an opportunity to shine, just like how Stone Cold talks about how he started with the shitty Ringmaster gimmick but started to shine when give the chance.
Is Cesaro a millenial? If so he won't do shit. If he's older he'll buckle down and be all he can be.
But he's right though. As a promo guy Cesaro just sucks. He needs to have that promo or gimmick to get him over.I felt so bad for Cesaro hearing Vince say he doesn't have it. How shitty must that be hearing that come from Vince's out-of-touch mouth? He can either let that bring him down or use that as a motivator to up his game and prove Vince wrong. I hope it's the latter as I honestly feel Cesaro has it but he just needs an opportunity to shine, just like how Stone Cold talks about how he started with the shitty Ringmaster gimmick but started to shine when give the chance.
What was better Cabana/Punk podcast or Austin/McMahon podcast?
Austin is a way better interviewer.
Punk went on Cabana's podcast because he knew the host and he knew he could control the message.
Officerrob
Banned
...is he that wrong? Orton could have been there but had that huge derailment. D-bry without that injury would be there. Who else that isn't dead or retired?
For starters, 2011 CM Punk...
UrbanDandy
Member
SWISS just cant get over!!
January 2015 Thread title?
legit shook at how good that was. I was expecting complete shit.
I wonder if this will lead to more out of kayfabe content on the network. More podcasts like that, or stuff like match commentary (like Austin did on his podcast) would probably get me to subscribe to the network.
I wonder if this will lead to more out of kayfabe content on the network. More podcasts like that, or stuff like match commentary (like Austin did on his podcast) would probably get me to subscribe to the network.
Jimmy King
Member
But he's right though. As a promo guy Cesaro just sucks. He needs to have that promo or gimmick to get him over.
Bryan was never a promo guy (grant it, I'd say Cesaro is far worse) but still, he got over with his ring work.
D
Deleted member 47027
Unconfirmed Member
Honestly I can understand where Vince is coming from with Cesaro - there IS a missing piece. Everything else is right there, but once Cesaro nails it down - truly nails it down, not just some indie shit of him dancing, and it fits his character perfect, he'll be a top dude.
Terrabyte20xx
Junior Wrestlemania XXX Champion
But he's right though. As a promo guy Cesaro just sucks. He needs to have that promo or gimmick to get him over.
Maybe if they let he cut a baby face promo he might actually work? He's kinda been heel the entire time he's been main roster.
Just saying...
Dark Ninja
Member
i missed alot of that interview but just imagine the promo package they can put together for Punk vs Austin or Punk vs HHH Main Event Wrestlemania match just based on this week
he sad cesaro couldn't get over because "he's swiss? i dunno" and said the entire roster outside of cena lacks ambition
He said that Cesaro is lacking charisma specifically on the mic. Which is true. He has a hard time connecting with the audience in promos. Also true. He said that was the one area holding him back from being big.
The real argument to be made isn't that really. It's why he doesn't have Rollins or Reigns spot in the company as they are also both awful talkers.
I think Vince thinks he's too old and too foreign.
Officerrob
Banned
Cesaro is fantastic in the ring but when he talks he loses something.
So he's like Roman Reigns, but tons better in the ring
I do find it hilarious how little traction that Punk story gained, mostly because they decided to release it on a holiday and now you add that with this McMahon podcast and people have already moved on.
but friend there is a part two to Punk's interview
I felt so bad for Cesaro hearing Vince say he doesn't have it. How shitty must that be hearing that come from Vince's out-of-touch mouth? He can either let that bring him down or use that as a motivator to up his game and prove Vince wrong. I hope it's the latter as I honestly feel Cesaro has it but he just needs an opportunity to shine, just like how Stone Cold talks about how he started with the shitty Ringmaster gimmick but started to shine when give the chance.
That was what Punk did. He worked angry all of the time.
"Fuck you I'm the best."
"Fuck you pay me"
"Fuck you I can prove my worth and then some"
"Fuck you the belt should be on my waist"
Deadly Joker
Member
Cesaro just needs to lift himself up by his bootstraps.
The Silver
Member
legit shook at how good that was. I was expecting complete shit.
I wonder if this will lead to more out of kayfabe content on the network. More podcasts like that, or stuff like match commentary (like Austin did on his podcast) would probably get me to subscribe to the network.
man Austin's match commentary stuff was great, would pay 9.99 for more
Austin saving the WWE again
Mr. Enigma
Member
But he's right though. As a promo guy Cesaro just sucks. He needs to have that promo or gimmick to get him over.
Some guys don't need that shit. Goldberg was over like a motherfucker with no character and was the WCW World Champion without saying a goddamn word. He seriously had never spoken on the mic before he won the title and everybody and their mother were wearing Goldberg shirts.
Cesaro was over as fuck at WM30. The Giant Swing had reached People's Elbow levels of hype. And they squandered it. It's not because he doesn't have it or because he's Swiss or because he's a millennial. End of story.
But he's right though. As a promo guy Cesaro just sucks. He needs to have that promo or gimmick to get him over.
he was over as fuck and connected with the crowd with his ability in the ring, not to mention he had 2 good mouthpieces with him, he had the tools, he was already there, and they crushed him anyway
Sweeney Tom
Banned
Also please ask for your release, Cesaro
Nobody would blame you
Nobody would blame you
Jimmy King
Member
but friend there is a part two to Punk's interview
Excellent, I expect Vince to drown it out with the announcement of his follow up podcast next week.
I disagree, Bryan is able to cut promos and get the audience to pop at things he says. That right there makes him a promo guy, even if we argue about great talkers in the business at the end of the day if you get the audience to get behind you on the things you say, you're doing something right. Bryan had the YES gimmick as well, and Cesaro had the King of Swing gimmick but that's move-based rather than a catchphrase or something the audience could really connect with or relate to.Bryan was never a promo guy (grant it, I'd say Cesaro is far worse) but still, he got over with his ring work.
welphe sad cesaro couldn't get over because "he's swiss? i dunno" and said the entire roster outside of cena lacks ambition
Dork Knight
Member
But he's right though. As a promo guy Cesaro just sucks. He needs to have that promo or gimmick to get him over.
I honestly don't think his promo is all that bad. I think it's more the shitty scripting more than anything else. Every time I see Cesaro improvise, he's pretty funny. They just need to let guys be themselves more. But of course that ain't gonna happen anytime soon.
Net_Wrecker
Member
Austin's a far better interviewer. It's like asking who would win - just Punk or Austin AND McMahon together.
A glimpse into what makes Vince Vince is fascinating, moreso than dirt and staph infections.
Austin is a way better interviewer.
Punk went on Cabana's podcast because he knew the host and he knew he could control the message.
Colt's podcast wasn't an interview, brehs, it was Punk putting his side of what happened out there. Colt interjected every so often, but Punk was mostly just telling a linear story.
Both podcasts were great and together make the most interesting thing related to the WWE since Punk's "shoot" in 2011.
Just have to echo, that was a great watch.
Stone Cold brought it from the jump. No foreplay or nothing. I enjoy his podcast but had prepared myself for this one pretty vanilla being on the network, but it was a great interview.
I can only hope this gets Vince to a least pause a bit and reevaluate the product outside of ratings numbers and merch sales.
Stone Cold brought it from the jump. No foreplay or nothing. I enjoy his podcast but had prepared myself for this one pretty vanilla being on the network, but it was a great interview.
I can only hope this gets Vince to a least pause a bit and reevaluate the product outside of ratings numbers and merch sales.